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Yeah the lack of help make me kind of sick to my stomach and has prevent me from sharing my new work. People are gonna say i don't know how to do this or that but we didn't know nothing before we learned. I just learned how to make nameplates and arenas animation last months and already made a dozen of them.

Same thing with arenas , same with modelling , the main menu , renders , doing all that shit prevent me from making models which nobody else can make.

We never ask for people to work as hard as us but to put a little effort in would have been nice.

 

 

I offered!

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I'm totally with you guys. I hate people who just choose to hit the modding wall because they can't find a fucking tutorial, and here you guys are smashing the wall to bits. I’ve derped a few times and completely fucked my game up, i came home from work for a week to find out that apparently i had to start again lol but I was determined to get it all working again. I ask stupid questions sometimes too, but unlike most of the retards on these forums, i get a kick out of solving my own problems.

I'm hoping that 2K16 is just another clone so that I can rape and pillage it for 2K14, assuming it has anything worth using lol At that point, I’m gonna get back into the swing of it, because I feel like right now I have unfinished business on last gen.

muchos respectos to you guys for keepin’ on, because i know a shit ton of people abandoned 2K14 when that piece of shiny shit launched on PC. I’ll be back with you at some point lol

and Bugsy man, don't be disheartened. i love the idea of your work turning heads on these forums, especially when the PC section realises that we've got a fuck ton more Wrestler models than they'll probably ever have. stick it to 'em, and make them wish they were modding with us 

Edited by Titan83
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Yeah the lack of help make me kind of sick to my stomach and has prevent me from sharing my new work. People are gonna say i don't know how to do this or that but we didn't know nothing before we learned. I just learned how to make nameplates and arenas animation last months and already made a dozen of them.

Same thing with arenas , same with modelling , the main menu , renders , doing all that shit prevent me from making models which nobody else can make.

We never ask for people to work as hard as us but to put a little effort in would have been nice.

 

 

I offered!

My comment and I assume Bugsys comment too weren't directed at you dude. You have been doing your own thing and I commend you on that. 

Our comments are directed at the people who have been here for years eating up the mods and producing nothing of their own and when we gave them the chance to help out, werent willing to put in the time or effort.

Your offer is greatly appreciated.

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Ive been through so much shit over the last year... a divorce, a layoff, and then a call back to work with 12 hour days for months... Now my kids are with their mom and im only getting one of my boys back... but, im going back home in August where my PC and JTag is at (been staying at my new girls where there is no internet) and I plan to get back into the swing of thing... with every passing day I see you guys post incredible work and im not helping at all, I feel like shit! Just know, im grateful!  CHEERS!

Edited by summerslammer
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Genuinely do want to help you guys - I appreciate what you do and feel a little pride when anything I've worked on a bit gets used in one of your releases -  however I can't even get the mask files to display right in Photoshop or Paint.net

I'm sure when I last experimented with this (WWE 13 maybe?) the mask file was a black image with a different bright colour for each 'item' of clothing

Well, now (example Ultimate Warrior) it looks like this:

mask1.png

...and this if I turn off the red & green layers:

mask2.png
 

...which is a little more helpful but still clearly not right.

 

Am I missing something obvious here? Is it as simple a setting in Photoshop (although Paint.net shows the same thing)

Someone give me a clue here and I'll try some more

I would say open a fresh mask.dds , it should be different colours , exp: red or blue etc ...  then experiment a little by changing some colour around logo ect ...

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I think el guapo is right. The primary mask.dds located in the 000A.pac is yellow and white. I believe the yellow indicates the items that can be modified through superstar threads. However, the mask.dds is not the only mask file. The mask.dds is the master reference file, there are mask files located in 000D, 000E, 000F.pac. Example: 000D has mask1.dds, 000E has mask2.dds and so on. Each of these individual mask files contain parts of the overall texture file. Example John Cenas 000D/mask1 file contains his wrist bands, the 000E/mask2 file contains his u can't see me logo and stripes. 

So somehow the mask.dds tells the game to load the mask1, mask2, mask3 files. I haven't tried this yet, but I'm thinking you would have to take a texture file make the items that stay constant, white and then the items you want to modify in superstar threads yellow. Then you have to make mask1, mask2, etc files for the items you want superstar threads to load.

ill try to upload photos of some extracted dds files to show you want I'm talking about.

 

if I'm wrong, I apologize. I've only been around 6 months or so and am why behind you guys. Excited to learn but finding time to absorb it all is tough.

red rooster and Bugsy, your hard work doesn't go unnoticed. Awesome work and much appreciated. Hopefully someday I can catch up and be more helpful.

Edited by stlpowercat
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Mask4_zpsuraxhn7k.pngMask3_zpsisxx9mru.pngMask2_zpsh5nvdww5.pngMask1_zpsn7wwcawi.pngMask_zpsk4b09go7.png

color_zps5rudshxb.png

 

Ok so the images I posted are from the Warriors 2k14 pach.

000A.pac contains the mask.dds file. Everything other than the wrestlers skin, eyes, teeth, tongue are highlighted in yellow.

000C.pac contains the color.dds which is the in game texture.

000D.pac contains the mask1.dds which contains the Warriors face paint.

000E.pac contains the mask2.dds which contains the Warriors accent layer for face paint and a stripe for his trunks, wrist bands, tassels, etc.

000F.pac contains the mask3.dds which contains the Warriors basic trunk color and 2 stripes for his trunks, wrist bands, tassels, etc.

0010.pac contains the mask4.dds which contains the Warriors logo for his trunks and knee pads.

All textures in the mask1, mask2, mask3, and mask4 are red, blue, or green. I think these are the files that need to be modified for superstar threads.

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I recall someone had said they replaced Curt Hennigs entrance attire with his ring attire and it crashed in superstar threads. I'm thinking they didn't update the mask files so the replacement entrance attire pach had the ring attire texture but still had the entrance attire masks which probably created a conflict causing the game to crash.

Posted

Amazing work man !!!  I didn't know there was that much mask files. What Curt entrance are you talking about ? NWO ?

Posted

Yeah the NWO Curt Hennig. Not sure who it was but I thought someone had successfully replaced his entrance attire (NWO shirt) with his ring attire and it worked in game but when he tried to change the colors in superstar threads it crashed the game. That issue may or may not be related to the mask files.

One question, I'm assuming CDLC doesn't work in superstar threads. Are you replacing main roster guys with CDLC wrestlers?

Posted

Excellent work sir! I shall begin experimenting this evening

 

Thanks!

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Ok, I'm back - with some success!

Threads1.png

You might notice that the boots are the same color as the trunks - this is because they are tricky to do. Looking at the existing mask files for Greg Valentine (which were originally for Big John Studd) the boots were on the alpha layer of the file only, not the RGB ones. I've tried (and failed) to replicate this with the end result being that the boots change color with the trunks.

Seeing as I was only using two other color 'zones' in the mask file, I attempted to add a third for the boots instead of putting them on the alpha file:

threads2.png

This however somehow ruined EVERYTHING as now when changing the boots color it affects THE WHOLE MODEL (with the exception of the trunks which have their own 'mask' of course)

A few other things of note:

  • I didn't touch the mask.dds file in the 000A.pac (the white and yellow one) and I suspect that actually just controls the preview you see on the threads screen before you start
  • Mask1.dds from 000D.pac is the one I worked with and contained trunks and boots
  • Mask2.dds from 000E.pac only had laces and soles on the file so I left it alone
  • Mask1 had an alpha layer, Mask2 did not
  • After loads of trial and error, Mask1.dds should be saved as 4.4.4.4 RGB 16bpp unsigned - no mip maps

    I might not get the chance to work on this again until Sunday at the earliest so i thought I'd share what I'd found so far.
    GREAT BIG thanks go to stlpowercat for pointing me in the right direction
Edited by El Guapo
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Excellent stuff, great job El Guapo and thanks for the info Stlpowercat!!

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just off topic, guys.. this fucktard has decided to use all my Kane textures for his PC mod without any credit what so ever..

i'd take a look through that section in case any of your stuff has been used also. I'm fairly adamant they're mine, even if they are edited or whatever. it's just annoying  

Edited by Titan83
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just off topic, guys.. this fucktard has decided to use all my Kane textures for his PC mod without any credit what so ever..

i'd take a look through that section in case any of your stuff has been used also. I'm fairly adamant they're mine, even if they are edited or whatever. it's just annoying  

Damn that sucks, I was worried stuff like that would start happening.

Posted

Amazing job on valentine Guapo Thanks !!! 

@Titan The pc scene is disgusting , at least the guy kind of admit but who knows if what he's saying is true , i didn't see no link post from where he got it.

 

Posted

Great work El Guapo and thanks for the additional info. I might give Don Murraco a try.

ive only been on the forum a few months but it seems once the game went to PC, all hell broke loose. I'm staying with 2k14 so I hope all the awesome work continues despite the bullshit PC mongers!

Posted

Thanks dude, First post updated.

 

Yeah we still need those trons.  I'll do the WCW ones if you wanna do the ECW ones.

Posted

I noticed MDTornado uploaded trons on page 3. It looks like the ones you need? 

Posted

I noticed MDTornado uploaded trons on page 3. It looks like the ones you need? 

Oh damn, ur right, Id even downloaded them already :p whoops. First Post updated

 

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You can't say I haven't contributed over the years redrooster.  I hooked you up with that DLC years ago when the XHP was around, helped make entrance videos. & themes,& helped w/ graphic design when I could.  I may not have contributed as much as everyone else but I work almost every day @ a concert venue & train for wrestling whenever I get a chance  as well as wrestle @ shows almost every weekend.  I still try to contribute when I can.  I just got back from vacation & got a couple renders to upload as well as a couple trons that aren't available yet.

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I wasnt asking for excuses I was just stating how I feel. Knocking out a few trons or renders while it is appreciated, doesnt really add up to shit all in the big scheme of things.

 

All we wanted was for someone to take the bull by the horns and go "Yeah ill do that" and then do it just like El Guapo did (thanks also to stlpowercat). 

Where as you were more "I'll do it, wheres the tutorial?" "Oh there isnt one" "Too hard, I give up"

Posted

Thanks stlpowercat & El Guapo for taking time out to share information.

Posted

I just stumbled across this thread again... I dropped the ball. I had sooo forgot about helping with the moveset. I got caught up in life and working on 2k15. you guys know i'm normally good about helping. so my apologies.

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