New Moves pack out Tuesday

[the King Lives]

If i'm going to pay $4, I expect more exciting moves than an armdrag or a hammerlock. Fair enough, you want those moves, but to put them in a DLC pack would be ludicrous. People wouldn't buy it. They need big, whacky moves to peak peoples interest in it. Basic moves should ship with the game. That said, I don't think there's anything really outrageous in that move pack. Most if not all of the moves have been seen on US television at some point.

this person on caws.ws understands exactly where i'm coming from

 

For anyone curious as to why people are upset over the moves pack this year, I have taken the time to split the moves from each moves pack into how many are useful for in-game guys and girls (WWE) and how many are not (Indy).

WWE '13

Spoiler 

WWE:
Kimura Lock - Brock Lesnar
Lionsault - Chris Jericho
Triangle Dropkick - Chris Jericho
The Hart Lock - Tyson Kidd
Superkick/Pedigree Combo - DX
Delayed Vertical Suplex Powerslam - Ryback
Airplane Spin - Daniel Bryan
Flapjack/Cutter Combo - Dudley Boyz
Small Package Driver - Seth Rollins
Brock Lock - Brock Lesnar
Fujiwara Armbar
Pin Up Strong - Beth Phoenix, Natalya
Corner Back Elbow Strikes - Kevin Nash
Total: 12

Indy:
Top Rope Super German Suplex
Omega Driver
Top Rope Brainbuster
Sleeper Suplex
Lift Single Underhook DDT
Half Nelson Backbreaker

WWE 2K14:

Spoiler 

WWE:
Koji Clutch - CM Punk
Soda Plunge - CM Punk
Black Widow - AJ Lee
Leaping Tombstone Piledriver - Undertaker
Inverted DDT - Kaitlyn, Sting
Diving Headbutt - Daniel Bryan
Explosive Dropkick - Anyone who's ever done a Dropkick
Elbow/Backstabber Combo - Alberto Del Rio
Rope Flip Armdrag - Sin Cara
Double Jump Body Splash - Kofi Kingston
Two Handed Chokeslam - The Great Khali
Lil' Jimmy - R-Truth
Shoulder Switch Powerslam - Ryback
Zack Ryder Comback - Zack Ryder
Alphamare Waterslide - Antonio Cesaro
Rope-Hung Kick To Midsection - Cody Rhodes, Hardcore Holly
Butterfly Suplex Armbar - Daniel Bryan
Corkscrew Shooting Star Press - Adrian Neville
Standing Shooting Star Press - Most High Flyers
Standing Corkscrew Moonsault - Adrian Neville
Springboard 450 Splash - Justin Gabriel
Rebound Big Boot - Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Luke Harper,
Rebound Elbow Strike - Anyone
Billy Goat's Curse - Randy Orton
KO - Kassisus Ohno
Hangman's Facebuster - Curt Hawkins, Curtis Axel, Adam Rose
Cradle DDT - Paige
Total: 28

Indy:
Package Piledriver
Burning Hammer
Psycho Driver
Moonstomp
Pumphandle Neckbreaker
Suplex Backbreaker
Powerbomb Lungblower
Wristlock Lariat
Total: 8

WWE 2K15:

Spoiler 

WWE:
Knee Drop Brainbuster - Kevin Owens
Straight Jacket German Suplex - Adrian Neville
Bridging Package Powerbomb - Kevin Owens
Spinning Powerbomb - Luke Harper
End of Days - Baron Corbin
Hart Attack - Hart Foundation
Spike Piledriver - Brainbusters
Somersault Cutter - Charlotte
Figure Four Headscissor - Charlotte
Rack Attack - Nikki Bella
Uso Crazy - Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso
Sister Abigail 3 - Bray Wyatt
Gutwrench Suplex Combo - Cesaro, Jack Swagger
Total: 13

Indy:
Cross-Legged Fisherman Buster
Electric Chair/German Suplex combo
Backslide Driver
Northern Lights Brainbuster
Fireman's Carry Overhead Kick
Fireman's Carry Neckbreaker
New Generation Combo
More Bang
Package Piledriver/Brainbuster Combo
Spike Tombstone Piledriver
Calf Killer
Rear Naked Choke
Strong Style Knee Strike
Tequila Sunrise
Chicken Wing Gutbuster
Cravate Suplex
Handspring Cutter
Running Knee Smash
Kudo Driver
Discus Big Boot
Lumbar Check
Total: 22

WWE 2K16:

Spoiler 

WWE:
Alabama Slam Facebuster - Bull Nakano
Avalanche RamPaige - Paige
Buzzsaw Kick - Tajiri
Corner Emzuguri 2 - Nikki Bella
Crossface Chickenwing - Bob Backlund, Cody Rhodes
Deadlift German Suplex - Adrian Neville
Dragon Sleeper - Finn Bálor
Regal Cutter - William Regal
Sidewinder Suplex - Kevin Owens
Sit Out Cradle Piledriver - Jerry Lynn
Sit-Out Pendulum Facebuster - John Cena
Suicide Swanton Bomb - Sin Cara
Total: 12

Indy:
630 Senton
Armbar/Leglock Combo
Back Suplex/Leg Drop Combo
Bang A Rang
Black Magic
Buckle Bomb
Diving Corkscrew Moonsault
Fireman's Carry Roundhouse Kick
GTS/Penalty Kick Combo
GTS/Side Kick Combo
Hammerlock Armbreaker
Inverted Alabama Slam
Leaping Mushroom Stomp
Prawn Hold
Pumphandle Half Nelson Driver
Rapid Fire Curb Stomps
Shouten
Sit-Out Last Ride Powerbomb
Strong Style Stomp
Suicidal Tornado DDT
Superkick Combo
Ura Shouten
Vertical Suplex Powerbomb
Total: 23

Even with me being nice and putting the Cradle Piledriver & Buzzsaw Kick under "WWE" because the main people who used them (Jerry Lynn & Tajiri) had short runs in WWE, we're only just into double digits. That's pretty inexcusable considering the pack has 35 moves and the amount of WWE moves we have had over the past few years. 

[BEAST987]

How about some new moves for some of the legends that are in game rather than moves form guys around other wrestling circuits.

Macho Man Randy Savage - Still No Running Hot Shot as a signature as been added was last seen in SVR 2011 and Savage wasn't even in that game he debuted as DLC for WWE 12.

Ultimate Warrior - complete copy and paste for past games

The Rock - Why remove the fist to the groin ???

 

 

[the King Lives]

Jeff you fool what does me being from Dublin have to do with anything? my god you really grasp at straws 

because you seem to think you are the only one whose opinions matter

[fufu ÷]

If i'm going to pay $4, I expect more exciting moves than an armdrag or a hammerlock. Fair enough, you want those moves, but to put them in a DLC pack would be ludicrous. People wouldn't buy it. They need big, whacky moves to peak peoples interest in it. Basic moves should ship with the game. That said, I don't think there's anything really outrageous in that move pack. Most if not all of the moves have been seen on US television at some point.

this person on caws.ws understands exactly where i'm coming from

 

For anyone curious as to why people are upset over the moves pack this year, I have taken the time to split the moves from each moves pack into how many are useful for in-game guys and girls (WWE) and how many are not (Indy).

WWE '13

Spoiler 

WWE:
Kimura Lock - Brock Lesnar
Lionsault - Chris Jericho
Triangle Dropkick - Chris Jericho
The Hart Lock - Tyson Kidd
Superkick/Pedigree Combo - DX
Delayed Vertical Suplex Powerslam - Ryback
Airplane Spin - Daniel Bryan
Flapjack/Cutter Combo - Dudley Boyz
Small Package Driver - Seth Rollins
Brock Lock - Brock Lesnar
Fujiwara Armbar
Pin Up Strong - Beth Phoenix, Natalya
Corner Back Elbow Strikes - Kevin Nash
Total: 12

Indy:
Top Rope Super German Suplex
Omega Driver
Top Rope Brainbuster
Sleeper Suplex
Lift Single Underhook DDT
Half Nelson Backbreaker

WWE 2K14:

Spoiler 

WWE:
Koji Clutch - CM Punk
Soda Plunge - CM Punk
Black Widow - AJ Lee
Leaping Tombstone Piledriver - Undertaker
Inverted DDT - Kaitlyn, Sting
Diving Headbutt - Daniel Bryan
Explosive Dropkick - Anyone who's ever done a Dropkick
Elbow/Backstabber Combo - Alberto Del Rio
Rope Flip Armdrag - Sin Cara
Double Jump Body Splash - Kofi Kingston
Two Handed Chokeslam - The Great Khali
Lil' Jimmy - R-Truth
Shoulder Switch Powerslam - Ryback
Zack Ryder Comback - Zack Ryder
Alphamare Waterslide - Antonio Cesaro
Rope-Hung Kick To Midsection - Cody Rhodes, Hardcore Holly
Butterfly Suplex Armbar - Daniel Bryan
Corkscrew Shooting Star Press - Adrian Neville
Standing Shooting Star Press - Most High Flyers
Standing Corkscrew Moonsault - Adrian Neville
Springboard 450 Splash - Justin Gabriel
Rebound Big Boot - Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Luke Harper,
Rebound Elbow Strike - Anyone
Billy Goat's Curse - Randy Orton
KO - Kassisus Ohno
Hangman's Facebuster - Curt Hawkins, Curtis Axel, Adam Rose
Cradle DDT - Paige
Total: 28

Indy:
Package Piledriver
Burning Hammer
Psycho Driver
Moonstomp
Pumphandle Neckbreaker
Suplex Backbreaker
Powerbomb Lungblower
Wristlock Lariat
Total: 8

WWE 2K15:

Spoiler 

WWE:
Knee Drop Brainbuster - Kevin Owens
Straight Jacket German Suplex - Adrian Neville
Bridging Package Powerbomb - Kevin Owens
Spinning Powerbomb - Luke Harper
End of Days - Baron Corbin
Hart Attack - Hart Foundation
Spike Piledriver - Brainbusters
Somersault Cutter - Charlotte
Figure Four Headscissor - Charlotte
Rack Attack - Nikki Bella
Uso Crazy - Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso
Sister Abigail 3 - Bray Wyatt
Gutwrench Suplex Combo - Cesaro, Jack Swagger
Total: 13

Indy:
Cross-Legged Fisherman Buster
Electric Chair/German Suplex combo
Backslide Driver
Northern Lights Brainbuster
Fireman's Carry Overhead Kick
Fireman's Carry Neckbreaker
New Generation Combo
More Bang
Package Piledriver/Brainbuster Combo
Spike Tombstone Piledriver
Calf Killer
Rear Naked Choke
Strong Style Knee Strike
Tequila Sunrise
Chicken Wing Gutbuster
Cravate Suplex
Handspring Cutter
Running Knee Smash
Kudo Driver
Discus Big Boot
Lumbar Check
Total: 22

WWE 2K16:

Spoiler 

WWE:
Alabama Slam Facebuster - Bull Nakano
Avalanche RamPaige - Paige
Buzzsaw Kick - Tajiri
Corner Emzuguri 2 - Nikki Bella
Crossface Chickenwing - Bob Backlund, Cody Rhodes
Deadlift German Suplex - Adrian Neville
Dragon Sleeper - Finn Bálor
Regal Cutter - William Regal
Sidewinder Suplex - Kevin Owens
Sit Out Cradle Piledriver - Jerry Lynn
Sit-Out Pendulum Facebuster - John Cena
Suicide Swanton Bomb - Sin Cara
Total: 12

Indy:
630 Senton
Armbar/Leglock Combo
Back Suplex/Leg Drop Combo
Bang A Rang
Black Magic
Buckle Bomb
Diving Corkscrew Moonsault
Fireman's Carry Roundhouse Kick
GTS/Penalty Kick Combo
GTS/Side Kick Combo
Hammerlock Armbreaker
Inverted Alabama Slam
Leaping Mushroom Stomp
Prawn Hold
Pumphandle Half Nelson Driver
Rapid Fire Curb Stomps
Shouten
Sit-Out Last Ride Powerbomb
Strong Style Stomp
Suicidal Tornado DDT
Superkick Combo
Ura Shouten
Vertical Suplex Powerbomb
Total: 23

Even with me being nice and putting the Cradle Piledriver & Buzzsaw Kick under "WWE" because the main people who used them (Jerry Lynn & Tajiri) had short runs in WWE, we're only just into double digits. That's pretty inexcusable considering the pack has 35 moves and the amount of WWE moves we have had over the past few years. 

Or maybe its fair because 'WWE guys' have been spoilt over the earlier few games in terms of what they've received? If you add them all up, 'WWE guys' have had considerably more. And whether you like it or not, indy wrestling is bigger now than it ever has been in recent memory, with even WWE acknowledging it. Just because you don't doesn't mean they don't, and those moves are creeping into what you see on TV more and more - whether you like it or not.

[the King Lives]

If i'm going to pay $4, I expect more exciting moves than an armdrag or a hammerlock. Fair enough, you want those moves, but to put them in a DLC pack would be ludicrous. People wouldn't buy it. They need big, whacky moves to peak peoples interest in it. Basic moves should ship with the game. That said, I don't think there's anything really outrageous in that move pack. Most if not all of the moves have been seen on US television at some point.

this person on caws.ws understands exactly where i'm coming from

 

For anyone curious as to why people are upset over the moves pack this year, I have taken the time to split the moves from each moves pack into how many are useful for in-game guys and girls (WWE) and how many are not (Indy).

WWE '13

Spoiler 

WWE:
Kimura Lock - Brock Lesnar
Lionsault - Chris Jericho
Triangle Dropkick - Chris Jericho
The Hart Lock - Tyson Kidd
Superkick/Pedigree Combo - DX
Delayed Vertical Suplex Powerslam - Ryback
Airplane Spin - Daniel Bryan
Flapjack/Cutter Combo - Dudley Boyz
Small Package Driver - Seth Rollins
Brock Lock - Brock Lesnar
Fujiwara Armbar
Pin Up Strong - Beth Phoenix, Natalya
Corner Back Elbow Strikes - Kevin Nash
Total: 12

Indy:
Top Rope Super German Suplex
Omega Driver
Top Rope Brainbuster
Sleeper Suplex
Lift Single Underhook DDT
Half Nelson Backbreaker

WWE 2K14:

Spoiler 

WWE:
Koji Clutch - CM Punk
Soda Plunge - CM Punk
Black Widow - AJ Lee
Leaping Tombstone Piledriver - Undertaker
Inverted DDT - Kaitlyn, Sting
Diving Headbutt - Daniel Bryan
Explosive Dropkick - Anyone who's ever done a Dropkick
Elbow/Backstabber Combo - Alberto Del Rio
Rope Flip Armdrag - Sin Cara
Double Jump Body Splash - Kofi Kingston
Two Handed Chokeslam - The Great Khali
Lil' Jimmy - R-Truth
Shoulder Switch Powerslam - Ryback
Zack Ryder Comback - Zack Ryder
Alphamare Waterslide - Antonio Cesaro
Rope-Hung Kick To Midsection - Cody Rhodes, Hardcore Holly
Butterfly Suplex Armbar - Daniel Bryan
Corkscrew Shooting Star Press - Adrian Neville
Standing Shooting Star Press - Most High Flyers
Standing Corkscrew Moonsault - Adrian Neville
Springboard 450 Splash - Justin Gabriel
Rebound Big Boot - Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Luke Harper,
Rebound Elbow Strike - Anyone
Billy Goat's Curse - Randy Orton
KO - Kassisus Ohno
Hangman's Facebuster - Curt Hawkins, Curtis Axel, Adam Rose
Cradle DDT - Paige
Total: 28

Indy:
Package Piledriver
Burning Hammer
Psycho Driver
Moonstomp
Pumphandle Neckbreaker
Suplex Backbreaker
Powerbomb Lungblower
Wristlock Lariat
Total: 8

WWE 2K15:

Spoiler 

WWE:
Knee Drop Brainbuster - Kevin Owens
Straight Jacket German Suplex - Adrian Neville
Bridging Package Powerbomb - Kevin Owens
Spinning Powerbomb - Luke Harper
End of Days - Baron Corbin
Hart Attack - Hart Foundation
Spike Piledriver - Brainbusters
Somersault Cutter - Charlotte
Figure Four Headscissor - Charlotte
Rack Attack - Nikki Bella
Uso Crazy - Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso
Sister Abigail 3 - Bray Wyatt
Gutwrench Suplex Combo - Cesaro, Jack Swagger
Total: 13

Indy:
Cross-Legged Fisherman Buster
Electric Chair/German Suplex combo
Backslide Driver
Northern Lights Brainbuster
Fireman's Carry Overhead Kick
Fireman's Carry Neckbreaker
New Generation Combo
More Bang
Package Piledriver/Brainbuster Combo
Spike Tombstone Piledriver
Calf Killer
Rear Naked Choke
Strong Style Knee Strike
Tequila Sunrise
Chicken Wing Gutbuster
Cravate Suplex
Handspring Cutter
Running Knee Smash
Kudo Driver
Discus Big Boot
Lumbar Check
Total: 22

WWE 2K16:

Spoiler 

WWE:
Alabama Slam Facebuster - Bull Nakano
Avalanche RamPaige - Paige
Buzzsaw Kick - Tajiri
Corner Emzuguri 2 - Nikki Bella
Crossface Chickenwing - Bob Backlund, Cody Rhodes
Deadlift German Suplex - Adrian Neville
Dragon Sleeper - Finn Bálor
Regal Cutter - William Regal
Sidewinder Suplex - Kevin Owens
Sit Out Cradle Piledriver - Jerry Lynn
Sit-Out Pendulum Facebuster - John Cena
Suicide Swanton Bomb - Sin Cara
Total: 12

Indy:
630 Senton
Armbar/Leglock Combo
Back Suplex/Leg Drop Combo
Bang A Rang
Black Magic
Buckle Bomb
Diving Corkscrew Moonsault
Fireman's Carry Roundhouse Kick
GTS/Penalty Kick Combo
GTS/Side Kick Combo
Hammerlock Armbreaker
Inverted Alabama Slam
Leaping Mushroom Stomp
Prawn Hold
Pumphandle Half Nelson Driver
Rapid Fire Curb Stomps
Shouten
Sit-Out Last Ride Powerbomb
Strong Style Stomp
Suicidal Tornado DDT
Superkick Combo
Ura Shouten
Vertical Suplex Powerbomb
Total: 23

Even with me being nice and putting the Cradle Piledriver & Buzzsaw Kick under "WWE" because the main people who used them (Jerry Lynn & Tajiri) had short runs in WWE, we're only just into double digits. That's pretty inexcusable considering the pack has 35 moves and the amount of WWE moves we have had over the past few years. 

Or maybe its fair because 'WWE guys' have been spoilt over the earlier few games in terms of what they've received? If you add them all up, 'WWE guys' have had considerably more. And whether you like it or not, indy wrestling is bigger now than it ever has been in recent memory, with even WWE acknowledging it. Just because you don't doesn't mean they don't, and those moves are creeping into what you see on TV more and more - whether you like it or not.

no i'm speaking of the bigger picture. bryan williams still does the moves packs and we all know that He is a huge Indie/NJPW fan so that's why i wasn't really all that surprised to begin with but at the same time. this is what upsets me.  3 tag moves for the young bucks.  Whoever it was that said young bucks only got one move was wrong

 

Tag Team Moves

- Buckle Bomb/Enzuigiri Combo ~ The Young Bucks
- Superkick/Piledriver Combo ~ The Young Bucks
- Tag Buckle Bomb / Rope Grip High Kick combo ~ The Young Bucks
 

 

that being said, like i said i'm good i just hope they'll be more diverse in the future

[DrJoeyMagnum]

I still don't see what me living in Dublin has to do with what I think of your awful opinions, are Irish people considered snobs or something in JeffTown USA?

[the King Lives]

I still don't see what me living in Dublin has to do with what I think of your awful opinions, are Irish people considered snobs or something in JeffTown USA?

don't worry about it. you always seem to have a nasty attitude towards me so it's best you not respond to me anymore. i've tried being more open-minded and respectful but that can only go so far

[Deek]

Jeff, buddy... I'm not attacking you here, I'm just saying this because I've noticed your posts.

Stop being fixated on someone else caring about your opinion. Your posts seem to go like this: 

- Jeff posts his often negative opinion.

- Someone disagrees.

- Thread gets clogged with 75 posts of Jeff going "bu-bu-but I'm allowed an opinion!"

It's obvious that the bulk of people on this forum don't share your opinion, which is normal. This is the internet. Nobody is required to be nice. Maybe if you stopped grandstanding you would get more enjoyment out of the forum.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Deek

[DrJoeyMagnum]

I still don't see what me living in Dublin has to do with what I think of your awful opinions, are Irish people considered snobs or something in JeffTown USA?

don't worry about it. you always seem to have a nasty attitude towards me so it's best you not respond to me anymore. i've tried being more open-minded and respectful but that can only go so far

Yes Jeff you've always been open-minded and respectful, that's why you're so beloved....oh wait 

[Mizalike]

I found this over at ign's message board for the game, I'm sure there are more New  moves than these - but here's what we know so far;

35 DLC moves :
1.) 630 Senton--Prince Puma [Jack Evans]
2.) Alabama Slam Facebuster--Bull Nakano
3.) Armbar/Leglock Combo--Zack Sabre Jr 
4.) Avalanche Ram-Paige--Paige 
5.) Bang-A-Rang--Dalton Castle
6.) Black Magic--Low Ki
7.) Buckle Bomb--Young Bucks
8.) Buzzsaw Kick--Tajiri
9.) Corner Enzuigiri 2--Nikki Bella
10.) Crossface Chickenwing--Cody Rhodes [Bob Backlund/HHH/Cesaro/Ambrose]
11.) Deadlift German Suplex--Neville [Dalton Castle/Brock Lesnar/Trevor Lee/Michael Elgin]
12.) Diving Corkscrew Moonsault--Tetsuya Naito [Johnny Nitro]
13.) Dragon Sleeper 2--Low Ki
14.) Fireman's Carry Roundhouse Kick--Prince Puma
15.) G.T.S/Penalty Kick Combo--Katsuyori Shibata
16.) Gut Check/Sick Kick Combo--Roderick Strong
17.) Hammerlock Armbreaker--Pentagon Jr
18.) Inverted Alabama Slam--? [can't find a pic or vid of ne1 doing this version]
19.) Leaping Mushroom Stomp--Trevor Lee
20.) Prawn Hold--Zack Sabre Jr
22.) Pumphandle Half Nelson Driver--Pentagon Jr [Matt Sydal/Shingo Takagi]
23.) Rapid Fire Curb Stomps--Bryan Danielson [Kyle O'Reilly]
24.) Regal Cutter--William Regal [Ambrose/Gail Kim/Mickie James/Curtis Axel/Sasha Banks]
25.) Shouten--Hirooki Goto
26.) Sidewinder Suplex--Kevin Steen [Rusev]
27.) Sit-Out Cradle Piledriver--Great Muta [Jerry Lynn]
28.) Sit-Out Last Ride Powerbomb--Kota Ibushi
29.) Sit-Out Pendulum Facebuster--John Cena
30.) Strong Style Stomp--Shunsuke Nakamura
31.) Suicidal Tornado DDT--Will Ferrara
32.) Suicide Swanton Bomb--Sin Cara [Kalisto]
33.) Superkick Combo--Young Bucks
34.) Ura Shouten--Hirooki Goto
35.) Vertical Suplex Powerbomb--Trevor Lee

 

I believe Drew McIntyre and jtg does this move, Inverted Alabama Slam

 

That Corkscrew Moonsault was in last year as a hidden move only available in A.J. Styles Pre-Set Move-Set and it was called Diving Corkscrew Splash. At least we have the 630 Senton which is worth the 3.99 alone!

less jtg. More drew  

yeah I think your right I've seen drew doing this move on superstars, I thing jtg used this move couple of times.

[EZY]

I totally agree. And a big part of the game is the creation suite. It's nice to have more moves for caws. 

If i'm going to pay $4, I expect more exciting moves than an armdrag or a hammerlock. Fair enough, you want those moves, but to put them in a DLC pack would be ludicrous. People wouldn't buy it. They need big, whacky moves to peak peoples interest in it. Basic moves should ship with the game. That said, I don't think there's anything really outrageous in that move pack. Most if not all of the moves have been seen on US television at some point.

 

Edited November 25, 2015 by EZY
Double post

[BigDaddyM]

Big plus for me, Nakamura's face wash is in.