Model Testing from 2K15/2K16

[esbatmusic]

This thread will be to let people know about what ch.pac files are working from 2K15/2K16 as in 'drag and drop + HxD ch number edit) (May do a compilation of what works from 2K15/2K16 so it's easier for people to have, to share and to enjoy...)

I just did Booker T '96 over Booker T in game model (which 2002). It works like a charm. However, the menu screen doesn't change automatically. I hope with the data editor that we will be able to do so easily. (which will be pictured also.) . Obviously, I cannot add a 2nd attire (haven't tested) but by logic of not having the data editor for 2K17 yet, I doubt that I could actually do it as simple as I just did Booker T '96. (My knowledge is very limited mod wise. still in my first year actually).

Here's a few pictures. I'll try to do more ASAP (More for testing purpose since they don't have spots and we have not much to actually truly edit yet).

As you see here, the entrance attire ( ch.58504) works. Copy and paste, and there wasn't a ch10804 in the default game. And here's a few more.

[esbatmusic]

Also, I do have a great comp, but I notice some heavy slow downs...I don't know if last year it got patched but I expect that there's a poor performance on the built of the game, hopefully that will be fixed as well. currently working on the list of models who are different (Including alt attire that we could just create in 2k17, so we don't have to and won't waste space, once the attire unlocker exists) ... But I'll test more stuff and keep updating slowly but surely.

[shanafan]

Curious about importing these assets from games as far back as 2K15.

Will they look a little different than the 2K17 models? You would think the newer models have been enhanced since 2K15, and these older models may stand out. However, they looked pretty close in 2K16, and with these Booker T screenshots, it does look good.

[esbatmusic]

22 minutes ago, shanafan said:

Curious about importing these assets from games as far back as 2K15.

Will they look a little different than the 2K17 models? You would think the newer models have been enhanced since 2K15, and these older models may stand out. However, they looked pretty close in 2K16, and with these Booker T screenshots, it does look good.

I'm still on the list... There's so many models made by 2K that we, honestly, could use. From Dustin Rhodes, Roddy Piper, Booker T & Stevie Ray, Sgt. Slaughter, X-Pac, Ken Shamrock. As soon as I'm done with the list of what to export from 2K16. I'll test 2K15, as in copy and paste as well... Can't wait for the tools to be available though to make it perfect.

I'll also test Tron and Theme, to see if I can just copy and paste after rename, or if there's an absolute need for the tools. (Alt attire unlocker and NPC will be awesome).

I've got 17 running on ps4 and 2k16 installed on pc and I'm checking one by one costumes. Some are minor changes, (Hideo itami doesn't have entrance attire and has different hair in 2k16) but it's different enough to say 'why not importing him' if people are fan of his. Dean Ambrose, however, I feel is ugly, the model and hair. since the attire are often IN the game currently on 2K17, I think it would be better for cases like Ambrose, to just do a costume pack using in game attires. Much easier too.

 

As soon as I'm done on the list, I'll do a pic/test for ONE guy that people complain not having... Something I'm sure people will want badly.

[ObsoleteRipZz]

Vanilla ports seem to be fairly smooth for the most part. I think a lot of 2k16 mods will have to be ported over though. Some work but others with multiple objects seem to crash the game.

[Gift Of Jericho]

Can you please upload the 2K16 Booker T pac file so I can test it in my game ? I deleted 2K16 a while ago.

It seems 2K17 fucked up every mod I have tried so far.

[esbatmusic]

4 minutes ago, Gift Of Jericho said:

Can you please upload the 2K16 Booker T pac file so I can test it in my game ? I deleted 2K16 a while ago.

It seems 2K17 fucked up every mod I have tried so far.

I will have all in a .rar file as soon as possible actually. I just tested another one.

 

Here's something that people will like to hear. Both In-ring/Entrance works. Sadly, outside of moveset (which is nothing to worry, and theme/tron same thing)... There's one big thing missing for this wrestler, compared to many already in, X-pac entrance isn't in the game. Just like Hogan, we'll need to port it in. Big time.

But here's two pics.

and yes, THAT is something we should have had since day 1, on console. It'll look better with costumes packs, entrances, and theme... ; )

 

Also, even if they 'seem' to port good, I'll verify them all, and put them all in .rar file to share. Hopefully when all of them are ready, someone could help me for the remaining costumes that I couldn't get in (due to models being much better overall, IE : Dean Ambrose attire in 2K16, Reigns in 2K16, their model aren't good and didn't really change except in quality. Brock Lesnar's model is a good example of a better model, not different enough just higher quality.)

 

More coming soon... It just takes forever to test and put all in one place.

[ObsoleteRipZz]

That's exactly who i was getting ready to test as well LOL I couldn't believe they left X-Pac out of the game. Nice work so far. If you need a hand let me know. I'm currently testing to see what mods work nicely and what doesn't and hopefully we can figure out why.

[esbatmusic]

31 minutes ago, SixZz|RipZz said:

That's exactly who i was getting ready to test as well LOL I couldn't believe they left X-Pac out of the game. Nice work so far. If you need a hand let me know. I'm currently testing to see what mods work nicely and what doesn't and hopefully we can figure out why.

Sure thing, we'll need to work as a community for sure this year.

Is there a way, if you know, to extract the audio from 2K16, since there's many themes that are already well balanced...It'd be useful.

I say this because I can now confirm that Titantron works. I'll also Extract Trons in the .rar file. I'm guessing (will test) minitron, you just rename say 108 pack was Booker T, I took the file of X-pac in 2K16 which was 314, searched the Titantron with that number and just took it, change the name to match the 108 one, copy and paste and VOILA! In game ready kick ass Titantron.

proof. :

Basically, we'll try hard to get all the legends and whatnot from 2K16 onto 2K17. I just dislike the frame drops, which hopefully will be fixed down the line.

Outside of the possible Alt. attires from wrestlers in game, these are the next one I'll test and put in the .rar file with the tron, if there's one IN-GAME. Nothing made from modders, just what 2K did, and I'll try to do the same for 2K15. I saw someone try with Hogan and it worked (Except the entrance animation, which we'll have a tiny tiny bit of issues this year for a few important wrestlers : X-Pac, Hulk Hogan/Hollywood Hogan & Roddy Piper in particular, I want those in very much and most of the rest are actually in already...So moveset and pofo will be easy to do). (Sidenote , I'll try to get the Minitron in that .rar file as well.)

 

Here's a quick list of who's next I'll test (and if there's any Alt, I am doing them one by one, since we don't have the multiple attire unlocker and no installer yet for faster doing. Lack the knowledge as I stated, to do so).

Not all of them, some I need to finish to check if we have the attire or better models in... But the ones without models in 2K17 that there is a chance we could have are (and includes alt, if they have) :

(Booker T '96 and X-Pac were tested) Mark Henry '98, Haku, Mikey Whipwreck, Rosa Mendes, D'Lo Brown, Savio Vega, Col. Rob Parker, Gerald Briscoe, Pat Patterson, Michael Hayes (as Doc Hendrix), Superstar Steve Austin, Roddy Piper, Dustin Rhodes, Ted Dibiase (He's in 2K17 and most likely will be super easy to just do a costume and make it playable), Stevie Ray, T-800, T-2, Sherri Martel, Brad Maddox (Kinda useless to do...) Paul Wight, Ryback, Cameron, Damien Sandow, Billy Gunn '01 (heard it works), Ken Shamrock, Faarooq, Paul Bearer ('98), Layla, Honky Tonk Man ('94) (We'll really REALLY need a much better costume pack for him, not one file with more files in it.), Sgt. Slaughter, Jerry Lawler, Santino Marella, Miss Elizabeth, Jimmy Hart, Col. Mustafa, Gen. Adnan, William Regal, Lord Steven Regal, Fit Finlay, Adam Rose, Andre the Giant (as Manager), Kevin Nash (The one who was 'current day'), Tony Chimel, Zeb Colter, Jim Ross, Wade Barrett, Howard Finkel, Michael Cole.

Another side note for this huge .rar file : It would be nice to have someone extract the audio call name for all of those superstars, or find a way to replace them in call name in CAW mode...So that way Lillian actually announces them as if they were in the game for real. (My ultimate goal is to eliminate the commentary, keep the referee counts and try to get all the call names by Lillian via older games for many wrestlers, as many as possible.).

 

Edit : Just checked, for the minitrons, they are in pac. I'm sure someone could actually help for that. To extract the ones that aren't in 2K17 but were in 2K16, if someone is up for that challenge, let me know, so you can help me for that huge .rar file. I want us (the community) this year to give them, 2K, a little middle finger for saying they were pro-mods, but made it more complex this year. In hope all the modders can make their tools like last year. I can't believe a handful of guys made the game so much better. and by so much better I mean by a large margin.)

Edit #2 : Good news everyone! 2K15 Titantron are also working as 'copy/paste' with the right number replacing...   I'll add them in the 'collection' for sure.

Edited February 8, 2017 by esbatmusic

[esbatmusic]

More models were tested and at this point , I'll just start to do the .rar file.  Of course, it'll be a 1.00 version. When (if I can get the help of a few members) the mini-trons of 2K16 (and music if possible) is all extracted for the wrestler needed, I'd just released a 2.00 version. I want to make this just so we, as a collective, have data to work with, possibly for the string, to add them without even thinking, if it was to crash and to reinstall, to simply have it ready for the then actual mods.

 

As you can see here, this is Indeed Corey Graves, from 2K15. The fun part (like many, sadly not all wrestlers) is that there's the animation for entrance...Making the theme, tron and possibly mini-tron a child's play to put in... Imagine having to install the game once, then you just drag and drop all those files and have ALL of the wrestlers removed from the last 2 years + multiple attires that were in. It would be a huge back up file, and even if it's not 'intense' work. I really want to give back in that way to this community. (And to also make sure we have a great string pac this year without having to worry too much about the old models and then only new stuff that , is very much needed, if we cannot find a way to make older mods to work.)

I'll test more of the WWE 2K15 wrestlers as I am not too sure if they will all work, but it seems that the ones from WWE 2K16 works like a charm. Both entrance attire and wrestling gear works like a charm actually. And the quality? 2K quality.

[Twistedmisery666™]

how about 2k17 model roman reigns to 2k17 will that work ?

[dashot88]

Are you actually using the empty slots or just testing all the 2K15/2K16 ch's over another wrestler?

[esbatmusic]

35 minutes ago, Twistedmisery666™ said:

how about 2k17 model roman reigns to 2k17 will that work ?

To quote Steve Austin : ''What?'' I guess you mean 2K16? To be honest, he's one of the few that got updated, a tiny bit. His models sucks too much, like Dean and even Seth Rollins, as all the parts (including the non-need of coloring hair of seth) which should be done via blender/using the CAW parts. It would make it less complex and just overall would give a much much better result. Some other models, with different haircut, beard and whatnot will be in the .rar file for sure. Very noticeable change will be ported/inserted in the huge mega file.

Also, I am trying to get all the 2K15 models. I am a bit more worried about some of the animation of entrances (X-Pac, Roddy Piper, Hogan's 2 entrance with props) than people making great costumes pack (IE : Roman, Dean, Lucha Dragons, ect, using the parts of CAW, so it doesn't take that much time and space.) (Reason behind this, less porting to check, better model for body and easier to port. and for it to take less space of CAW someone will eventually just do those attires... If I can, I will.)

 

Another good example of something that needs done but can be done better if someone does it with blender. There's Sid in game right? But...We could use a model of hair different... So there's one that is HIS in game as a CAW part. (In hair : 3 spot of the 13th Row.) And we'd have a wrestlemania 8 Sid easily... I guess we'll see things like that when the tools are available.

13 minutes ago, dashot88 said:

Are you actually using the empty slots or just testing all the 2K15/2K16 ch's over another wrestler?

Over an existing Ch. as the tools aren't all available. Same for Entrance video. I just took one , Booker T (ch10802) and actually when I had an entrance attire for say, Roddy Piper, it did insert, no install needed. I have no knowledge of the 'slots' we have this year, as I'm not a huge modder and I have no file list, (which I hope to have at some point soon, like you, waiting for it). and I heard there's a TON of space with Pac+... It'll be VERY enjoyable if it all works out in the end.

Edited February 9, 2017 by esbatmusic

[dashot88]

I thought you figured out a way to import them into the empty slots but cool to know a lot of wrestlers are working. Pozzum and Tekken put out a list of all CH and the empty open slots. 

[esbatmusic]

Just now, dashot88 said:

I thought you figured out a way to import them into the empty slots but cool to know a lot of wrestlers are working. Pozzum and Tekken put out a list of all CH and the empty open slots. 

Oh? I haven't seen that. Mind if you link me the post?

[dashot88]

in pozzums first post that's pinned, under the post he has a signatue with wwe 2k17 memory table

[esbatmusic]

1 minute ago, dashot88 said:

in pozzums first post that's pinned, under the post he has a signatue with wwe 2k17 memory table

Awesome thanks!

And also :  Damien Sandow (2K15) works too. The whole file is advancing quite well. We'll have a VERY nice chunk of wrestlers, it'll feel like a DLC pack.

[esbatmusic]

More models being tested... I have some Pacs with pacs in them (Which I don't know how to take them out). I'm still trying to find out all the files I need too. Not an easy task but I hope you enjoy the pics so far... Here's a few more that were tested.

I honestly cannot wait for the NPC unlock and for all the CH File list to be 100% known (Waiting to know if Mojo and Tye are in the 'test' ch pac AND I cannot wait for us to have the Alt. Attire unlocker. Because that will be helpful for many models. But overall... So far, it's DAMN awesome.

[Livin Proof 215]

great contributions man. cant wait till release

[Gift Of Jericho]

Did you do anything to the pac files from previous games ?

[EZY]

good stuff sir! Have you tried Cody Rhodes yet?

[Thunder72]

Good testing! thanks for the useful infos.

Keep us updated.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Thunder72

[Raheem Baksh]

very good work in testing those models 

[Elg]

So you know, all empty slots are already discovered thanks to Pozzum. Just look at his memory table. There are about 80 empty slots as standard, and using his upcoming PacPlus tool you'll be able to unlock another 160ish slots.

For now, the slots he's said are available work perfectly fine to add new superstars to. You have to do it the long way using Cheat Engine. But I can say for now that you can add in 2k15/2k16 removed superstars in to them easily. All minitrons and walltrons work too, all you have to do is reassign the number to whatever the empty slot is, again using cheat engine. All winning animations and entrance animations work too, once again just need to reassign the number. You'll also have to edit your string file to add their names in for now. But I'm sure sooner or later tools will be made to simplify this process. Just thought you should know.

Edited February 9, 2017 by EL_G

[Thunder72]

40 minutes ago, EL_G said:

So you know, all empty slots are already discovered thanks to Pozzum. Just look at his memory table. There are about 80 empty slots as standard, and using his upcoming PacPlus tool you'll be able to unlock another 160ish slots.

For now, the slots he's said are available work perfectly fine to add new superstars to. You have to do it the long way using Cheat Engine. But I can say for now that you can add in 2k15/2k16 removed superstars in to them easily. All minitrons and walltrons work too, all you have to do is reassign the number to whatever the empty slot is, again using cheat engine. All winning animations and entrance animations work too, once again just need to reassign the number. You'll also have to edit your string file to add their names in for now. But I'm sure sooner or later tools will be made to simplify this process. Just thought you should know.

Thank you, I will test myself some imported model from WWE 2K15 (vanilla) today, using cheat engine is not much of a problem since I used it a lot on the first days of WWE 2K16 modding.

By the way do you also need to copy the "proper files" from WWE 2K15 folder  into WWE 2K17  to make the entrance work?

Thanks

Edited February 9, 2017 by Thunder72