Entrances are compressed this year, and they don't use PACHs anymore (PS3)

[jakeypearce]

So I just recently got my hands on a copy of WWE 2K17. Just like the Xbox 360 version, they no longer use PACHs for wrestler models. Not only that, but I just looked at an entrance animation, and it doesn't use BPE compression anymore. Has anyone looked into this?

[M42Productions]

Being a complete noob to modding, I have to ask: is this good or bad for us?

[jakeypearce]

For now, I'd say it's bad, as it's a new container and the software we use (X-Packer, PACTool, etc) doesn't support it. With that said, we could use some NBA 2K modding software, assuming they use the same archives. Not only that, but it is indeed possible to extract the textures from the archives, however unless you are experienced with hex editing, then good luck!

[4 Life]

Hope this doesn't mean that there's no hope for porting over mods to 2K17 when it comes out on PC

[Mathayus]

Well, with an hex editor I replaced a wrestler from 2K14 over one in 2K17. With X-Packer you can extrtact files from BPE but you need to do the mostly of the work in hex. I´ll look at the entrances in the future, but probably some modders will try to get it to add to the 2K14 legends mods.

[N'Jadaka]

I'm praying they can figure out entrances. Theres soo many entrances from 2k16 & 2k17 that I wanna use in 2k14.

[Red Rooster]

I'm praying they can figure out entrances. Theres soo many entrances from 2k16 & 2k17 that I wanna use in 2k14.

Not gonna be possible, the 2k16/17 entrance animations wont work in 2k14

[Mathayus]

2K14 entrances works in 2K16, cause I did it. Except for the facial animations and that troubles we got in 2K14 too.

[Red Rooster]

2K14 entrances works in 2K16, cause I did it. Except for the facial animations and that troubles we got in 2K14 too.

Hes talking about 2k16/17 entrances working in 2k14 not the other way around.

[Mathayus]

2K14 entrances works in 2K16, cause I did it. Except for the facial animations and that troubles we got in 2K14 too.

Hes talking about 2k16/17 entrances working in 2k14 not the other way around.

Yeah, I understand him. Only pointing that.

[N'Jadaka]

I know I'm beating a dead horse here but my glimmer of hope lies with Razor Ramon. Razor Ramon's 2k17 entrance is his exact same entrance from 2k14. I'm hoping that we can compare the two and see if there's any way we can get those 2k16/17 entrances working in 2k14. There's gotta be something that takes us back to 14 because its the same file structure & animations. & I'm very skeptical that 2k revolutionized their animations between 15 and 16 on last gen, its just gotta be some sort of compression or hidden in the hex justjust like we figured out the 2k17 pacs. The answer is gonna be in comparing the ps3 2k14 & 2k17 Razor entrances if its possible.

Edited October 17, 2016 by rj10018576

[Red Rooster]

Hmm yeah Ive tried that with previous years games, comparing entrances that appear the same but I couldnt figure out any correlation but if you can that would be an amazing breakthru

[Mathayus]

The same with the current Rock entrance in 2K16 and 2K14 but anyone figure how to change that to work. The made some changes in the files, when a wrestler ups to the ring the ropes get moves. but, if you compares, the rope that moves when you get an entrance animation change from the side. For example, the rope have animation when the wrestler hang it. If the wrestler touch the side nearer to the ramp, the rope that is moving is in front of TV. And the position of the guys in the top of the ring, etc. Plus the added new light effects in some entrances that the old games can´t manage.

[jakeypearce]

Well, I've found that some entrances use the EPK8 header. IIRC, 00138 uses it as well as others. Sidenote: WHY GET RID OF ALL THE CHAMPION ENTRANCES EXCEPT FOR ORTON?! Unless they are unlocked as you play through more matches, that makes no sense.

EDIT: I just managed to add Rock's old 2K16 entrance manually via hex, however he has no facial animation...

Edited October 17, 2016 by jakeypearce

[Mathayus]

Since 2K takes the game each year they get out more quantity of Champion entrances. (And a lot of customization options) Stupid things. I remember when it comes with a bunch of Champion entrances. It´s the same with managers.

[jakeypearce]

Is there a "00609.pac" file? IIRC, that is Rock's Championship animation. If it's there, I could try and decompress the save to give Rock his championship animation, assuming it's the same this year (i.e X-Packer won't have issues showing the file).

Edited October 17, 2016 by jakeypearce

[Mathayus]

I think I saw Stone COld and Champ entrance. I´ll have to take a look in game to see how many champion entrances are there but The Rock must be there.

[jakeypearce]

http://imgur.com/ArdjQ

I added HHH's entrance animation from 2K16. Not only does it work, but the facial animation does as well. Also, I think I may have spotted a pattern... Try and add an EVZ animation - if the facial animations don't work, the EVP will crash the game.

Edited October 18, 2016 by jakeypearce

[Mathayus]

Probably from 2K15 the entrances are compatible with the facial animations.

 

BTW: The champion entrances that are available in the game:

Randy Orton

Mark Henry

Stone Cold

Rock Champion 1

Rock Champion 2

Paige

I think its everything, i can´t beleive that they removed John Cena Champion entrance, or maybe I missed it when I looked.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Mathayus