Will WWE 2K17 Be the Most Outdated WWE Game Released in Recent History?

[Sunny]

 

This gets brought up every year, but the changes are mostly insignificant with the exception of a major debut or so which can be compensated for in CAW Mode. However, this query was asked on a bunch of other boards, and I want to get the expert opinion of our very own community designers ala WWE Games art enthusiasts, if you will.

It is of course on account of the overhaul in graphics design, new championships being excluded, the possibility of other roster additions from the free agent pool, this camera angle, and the overall concept of brand separation. What do you guys think? Is it a far cry or is there too much thought exerted into the notion? Nothing that a wet slab of cosmetic paint can't fix with custom designs? Please share your views below.

Source: u/TheHeroicOnion

[Cerb]

I feel like it wouldn't kill 2K to just make a "New Era" DLC with the updated Raw and SmackDown arenas with the new sets, logos, graphics etc. 

Other than that there really isn't that much different other than a few returning superstars over the next few weeks who won't make it in, but that happens every year. Defo think they could add in the new arenas though.

[Auday]

idc will mod the fuck out of it. PC MASTER RACE. Oh wait we get it after 5 month.

[bravebird31]

idc will mod the fuck out of it. PC MASTER RACE. Oh wait we get it after 5 month.

Let's be honest, there will be shrinkwrapped versions of any new characters, while we wait for a PC Version.

[the King Lives]

no it won't because 2k17 is based on Mania 31-mania 32 just like 2k15 was based on mania 30-31 it's always been like this. and a lot of this is on wwe not 2k.  If they would actually hold more meetings with the wwegames team stuff like this wouldn't happen so often.

I feel like it wouldn't kill 2K to just make a "New Era" DLC with the updated Raw and SmackDown arenas with the new sets, logos, graphics etc. 

Other than that there really isn't that much different other than a few returning superstars over the next few weeks who won't make it in, but that happens every year. Defo think they could add in the new arenas though.

yeah they could do that. what i'm curious to see is if the Nitro and Havoc arenas have the announce table by the stage cause they haven't gotten that right ever (thq) so we'll have to see. but yeah it's possible to add the arenas via dlc especially since we've seen DLC arenas. the question is exactly how long does it take to get those arenas created. I think that's the main question. Surely it isn't as long as it takes to make a character model.

 

 

This gets brought up every year, but the changes are mostly insignificant with the exception of a major debut or so which can be compensated for in CAW Mode. However, this query was asked on a bunch of other boards, and I want to get the expert opinion of our very own community designers ala WWE Games art enthusiasts, if you will.

It is of course on account of the overhaul in graphics design, new championships being excluded, the possibility of other roster additions from the free agent pool, this camera angle, and the overall concept of brand separation. What do you guys think? Is it a far cry or is there too much thought exerted into the notion? Nothing that a wet slab of cosmetic paint can't fix with custom designs? Please share your views below.

Source: u/TheHeroicOnion

I think the biggest issue is that they always develop these games a year in the hold it's always been like that. that's one reason why I wasn't that surprised that the 4HW were excluded but was shocked that AJ didn't make it in for 16.  as far as the draft we don't really need that necessarily since the way they did it wasn't random (which I was happy about) but i'm not against it. I think right now what 2k should be focusing on is addressing universe issues, giving us more moves positions IE Submissions from the back, fixing ko time in multi man matches, fixing targeting stuff like that.  I'd love to have everything that just debuted. but I know it's not gonna happen. atleast smackdown didn't move the announce table.  I think the biggest issue for us is the fact that the commentary teams are completely going to be wrong. but like I said these games have always been based on the previous year. which is how most sports titles are.  NBA2k is based on the previous season but they get regular updates.  I think that's the only difference and you can actually play out games that match the current season. so yeah

Edited July 27, 2016 by Jai

[DrJoeyMagnum]

AJ Lee or AJ Styles? because Styles was under contract to NJPW well after 2K16 was released 

[Cerb]

AJ Lee as he mentioned 4HW most likely, didn't Styles make his debut months after 2K16 was released?

[HiPcavallo]

Still doesn't excuse the fact that AJ Styles didn't make the cut, same goes for Shinsuke Nakamura, Austin Aries, Bobby Roode, Eric Young, everyone in the CWC, and Roderick Strong.

[the King Lives]

AJ Lee or AJ Styles? because Styles was under contract to NJPW well after 2K16 was released 

I was talking about Lee

Still doesn't excuse the fact that AJ Styles didn't make the cut, same goes for Shinsuke Nakamura, Austin Aries, Bobby Roode, Eric Young, everyone in the CWC, and Roderick Strong.

if you're thinking you're getting all that after I just stated that the game is based on previous year's mania to this year's mania I don't know what to tell you. the best you're gonna get is maybe a CWC dlc pack

[HiPcavallo]

That was sarcasm Jeff, I thought it was quite obvious I wasn't being serious.

[the King Lives]

That was sarcasm Jeff, I thought it was quite obvious I wasn't being serious.

"Still doesn't excuse the fact" doesn't seem at all like sarcasm all i'm gonna say

[HiPcavallo]

But I followed it up with an absurd list of names that never could've been included. Hell Roderick Strong may not even end up working for WWE, everyone just assumes he left ROH to go to NXT. I considered adding Adam Cole, Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks, Jay Lethal, Kazuchika Okada, Hiroshi Tanahashi and every member of Los Ingobernables De Japon as well but figured that would be going overboard. But the point is the absurdity of what I was saying counteracted the seriousness of the wording I used.

[fufu ÷]

Jeff vs Semantics: 300,0276,735,752 in a lifetime

[the King Lives]

But I followed it up with an absurd list of names that never could've been included. Hell Roderick Strong may not even end up working for WWE, everyone just assumes he left ROH to go to NXT. I considered adding Adam Cole, Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks, Jay Lethal, Kazuchika Okada, Hiroshi Tanahashi and every member of Los Ingobernables De Japon as well but figured that would be going overboard. But the point is the absurdity of what I was saying counteracted the seriousness of the wording I used.

honestly I didn't know if you were talking about 2k15 or 2k16

Jeff vs Semantics: 300,0276,735,752 in a lifetime

yeah cause everyone is supposed to automatically assume that just cause someone creates an absurd list LIKE SAY WANTING EVERY PERSON ON THE NXT ROSTER as well as CWC in 2k17. is not supposed to be taken seriously.. sorry I see those types of requests every single day. not to mention the every other day post about how "NXT SUCKS IT'S JUST DEVELOPMENTAL, IT SHOULDN"T BE IN THE GAME" posts. their words not mine. I haven't a single problem with NXT having a huge presence in the games but some feel that way so that's why I made the comment I made. now I know it's probably the end of the day for you but my day is just starting so i'll let that silly comment slide

[DrJoeyMagnum]

11:45am is the always the end of the day in Korea

[fufu ÷]

But I followed it up with an absurd list of names that never could've been included. Hell Roderick Strong may not even end up working for WWE, everyone just assumes he left ROH to go to NXT. I considered adding Adam Cole, Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks, Jay Lethal, Kazuchika Okada, Hiroshi Tanahashi and every member of Los Ingobernables De Japon as well but figured that would be going overboard. But the point is the absurdity of what I was saying counteracted the seriousness of the wording I used.

honestly I didn't know if you were talking about 2k15 or 2k16

Jeff vs Semantics: 300,0276,735,752 in a lifetime

yeah cause everyone is supposed to automatically assume that just cause someone creates an absurd list LIKE SAY WANTING EVERY PERSON ON THE NXT ROSTER as well as CWC in 2k17. is not supposed to be taken seriously.. sorry I see those types of requests every single day. not to mention the every other day post about how "NXT SUCKS IT'S JUST DEVELOPMENTAL, IT SHOULDN"T BE IN THE GAME" posts. their words not mine. I haven't a single problem with NXT having a huge presence in the games but some feel that way so that's why I made the comment I made. now I know it's probably the end of the day for you but my day is just starting so i'll let that silly comment slide

HiP, like everyone else at that point, was talking about 2K16... not 2K17

[HiPcavallo]

Pretty sure I was talking about them not making the cut in 2K16, my post was a direct response to Joey and Cerb's posts in regards to whether you were talking about AJ Styles or AJ Lee. I think that was pretty obvious.

Edited July 29, 2016 by HiPcavallo
Most certainly wasn't crossing Joey's name out so I can claim ignorance.

[DrJoeyMagnum]

Don't bring me up in your beef with Jeffypoo

[HiPcavallo]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

For Jeff and anyone else that can't tell, that was sarcasm.

[the King Lives]

But I followed it up with an absurd list of names that never could've been included. Hell Roderick Strong may not even end up working for WWE, everyone just assumes he left ROH to go to NXT. I considered adding Adam Cole, Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks, Jay Lethal, Kazuchika Okada, Hiroshi Tanahashi and every member of Los Ingobernables De Japon as well but figured that would be going overboard. But the point is the absurdity of what I was saying counteracted the seriousness of the wording I used.

honestly I didn't know if you were talking about 2k15 or 2k16

Jeff vs Semantics: 300,0276,735,752 in a lifetime

yeah cause everyone is supposed to automatically assume that just cause someone creates an absurd list LIKE SAY WANTING EVERY PERSON ON THE NXT ROSTER as well as CWC in 2k17. is not supposed to be taken seriously.. sorry I see those types of requests every single day. not to mention the every other day post about how "NXT SUCKS IT'S JUST DEVELOPMENTAL, IT SHOULDN"T BE IN THE GAME" posts. their words not mine. I haven't a single problem with NXT having a huge presence in the games but some feel that way so that's why I made the comment I made. now I know it's probably the end of the day for you but my day is just starting so i'll let that silly comment slide

HiP, like everyone else at that point, was talking about 2K16... not 2K17

I knew he wasn't talking aout 2k17. that's why I said I thought he was talking about 15 or 16 since that would have been around that covered time period but regardless. like I said these games are always based on the previous year. so that's why I thought he was talking about at the utmost, 2k16 cause he mentioned the 4HW

[DrJoeyMagnum]

Hey Jeff just to let you know fufu was talking about 2K16

[fufu ÷]

But I followed it up with an absurd list of names that never could've been included. Hell Roderick Strong may not even end up working for WWE, everyone just assumes he left ROH to go to NXT. I considered adding Adam Cole, Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks, Jay Lethal, Kazuchika Okada, Hiroshi Tanahashi and every member of Los Ingobernables De Japon as well but figured that would be going overboard. But the point is the absurdity of what I was saying counteracted the seriousness of the wording I used.

honestly I didn't know if you were talking about 2k15 or 2k16

Jeff vs Semantics: 300,0276,735,752 in a lifetime

yeah cause everyone is supposed to automatically assume that just cause someone creates an absurd list LIKE SAY WANTING EVERY PERSON ON THE NXT ROSTER as well as CWC in 2k17. is not supposed to be taken seriously.. sorry I see those types of requests every single day. not to mention the every other day post about how "NXT SUCKS IT'S JUST DEVELOPMENTAL, IT SHOULDN"T BE IN THE GAME" posts. their words not mine. I haven't a single problem with NXT having a huge presence in the games but some feel that way so that's why I made the comment I made. now I know it's probably the end of the day for you but my day is just starting so i'll let that silly comment slide

HiP, like everyone else at that point, was talking about 2K16... not 2K17

I knew he wasn't talking aout 2k17. that's why I said I thought he was talking about 15 or 16 since that would have been around that covered time period but regardless. like I said these games are always based on the previous year. so that's why I thought he was talking about at the utmost, 2k16 cause he mentioned the 4HW

Direct quotation:

yeah cause everyone is supposed to automatically assume that just cause someone creates an absurd list LIKE SAY WANTING EVERY PERSON ON THE NXT ROSTER as well as CWC in 2k17.

 

[the King Lives]

But I followed it up with an absurd list of names that never could've been included. Hell Roderick Strong may not even end up working for WWE, everyone just assumes he left ROH to go to NXT. I considered adding Adam Cole, Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks, Jay Lethal, Kazuchika Okada, Hiroshi Tanahashi and every member of Los Ingobernables De Japon as well but figured that would be going overboard. But the point is the absurdity of what I was saying counteracted the seriousness of the wording I used.

honestly I didn't know if you were talking about 2k15 or 2k16

Jeff vs Semantics: 300,0276,735,752 in a lifetime

yeah cause everyone is supposed to automatically assume that just cause someone creates an absurd list LIKE SAY WANTING EVERY PERSON ON THE NXT ROSTER as well as CWC in 2k17. is not supposed to be taken seriously.. sorry I see those types of requests every single day. not to mention the every other day post about how "NXT SUCKS IT'S JUST DEVELOPMENTAL, IT SHOULDN"T BE IN THE GAME" posts. their words not mine. I haven't a single problem with NXT having a huge presence in the games but some feel that way so that's why I made the comment I made. now I know it's probably the end of the day for you but my day is just starting so i'll let that silly comment slide

HiP, like everyone else at that point, was talking about 2K16... not 2K17

I knew he wasn't talking aout 2k17. that's why I said I thought he was talking about 15 or 16 since that would have been around that covered time period but regardless. like I said these games are always based on the previous year. so that's why I thought he was talking about at the utmost, 2k16 cause he mentioned the 4HW

 

Direct quotation:

yeah cause everyone is supposed to automatically assume that just cause someone creates an absurd list LIKE SAY WANTING EVERY PERSON ON THE NXT ROSTER as well as CWC in 2k17.

 

I was using that as an example as to what someone said on the 2k forums. which was the same person that said nxt sucked and didn't deserve to have a presence in the series.

[HiPcavallo]

...But its not even the same thing. If my list applied to 2K17 it would be absurd because I had unrealistic expectations, but some of those guys are definitely going to be in the game and some have a slim (albeit unlikely) chance of making the cut via DLC. The majority of them definitely won't be in the game, but at least they all debuted before the roster reveal so you could reasonably understand why some naive kid might get his hopes up. However, applying it to 2K16 makes it absurd because I'm a delusional moron, since there was never any indication those guys would sign with WWE at the time the game was released (aside from maybe Aries who was a free agent for months).

[the King Lives]

...But its not even the same thing. If my list applied to 2K17 it would be absurd because I had unrealistic expectations, but some of those guys are definitely going to be in the game and some have a slim (albeit unlikely) chance of making the cut via DLC. The majority of them definitely won't be in the game, but at least they all debuted before the roster reveal so you could reasonably understand why some naive kid might get his hopes up. However, applying it to 2K16 makes it absurd because I'm a delusional moron, since there was never any indication those guys would sign with WWE at the time the game was released (aside from maybe Aries who was a free agent for months).

well it was mostly a stab at that forum and the guy that made that comment about how nxt doesn't belong in the game and how we don't deserve to have 100 caw slots and that the only thing that should matter is graphics. it was that bullshit. maybe 4 years ago I wouldn't care about nxt but at the way it's grown and actually become more relevant than the current wwe product, really has gotten me interested. I think when they took over FCW and opened the performance center they really turned a lot of their developmental around. It isn't as developmental as he seems to think. but yeah I understand where you're coming from too. although I do wish we could get all those people lol. i'd be all for it and be willing to let the legends just be dlc to get all those people. like I said I dl'd the entire CWC roster last night cause I plan on doing my own CWC via the tournament modes in 2k16. and I don't know anyone there except for brian Kendrick, tajiri and zack sabre jr lol.

speaking of that I still don't get why they gave zack Justin Gabriel's old theme lol