Is it just me or is the PC gameplay mechanics different than on console?

[Cerb]

And not in a good way either, two things I have noticed that makes the PC version unplayable for me the pretty much only thing I got from buying the game twice were textures etc. - are that whenever I add a logo in create a superstar or attire editing, it never sticks where I put it, it always jumps down several inches. Also in general when playing any singles match, the opponent A.I. is constantly throwing me out of the ring making almost any match unplayable, and obviously I can't use the creation suite since I can't add any logos, so for me this PC game is 100% unplayable and I have never seen any of these issues on console.

Anyone else experience any of these bugs? I haven't posted about it before because I really didn't plan on playing PC, just getting textures etc. but now I want to play, although I just can't. It's unplayable. If anyone has come across these, are there fixes to them?

[the King Lives]

it's the personality traits. i forget which one but the AI kept doing that to me till i balanced them out a bit

[Cerb]

Highly doubt it. I'm not saying it happens twice a match, it happens at least 5 times during a 10 minute match, no matter who I play against and no matter what their traits are.

[Rhuanico99]

The logo glitch keeps happening to me which makes the creation suite really frustrating, especially for those who want to make caws for the community but the logos just keep getting out of place

But the glitch u had during a match has happen to me like once or twice, not more than that.

[Cerb]

The logo glitch keeps happening to me which makes the creation suite really frustrating, especially for those who want to make caws for the community but the logos just keep getting out of place

But the glitch u had during a match has happen to me like once or twice, not more than that.

Yeah seriously, obviously since no one is talking about the glitch I'm guessing it's rare and probably has a fix, but a clean install of the game didn't even work for me. It really is frustrating because I want to get into some CAW'ing on PC as almost no one makes CAW's there.

Edited May 5, 2016 by Cerb

[Auday]

It's a port. There's no difference.

[DrJoeyMagnum]

did you try turning it on and off again?

[Cerb]

It's a port. There's no difference.

Yeah exactly it seems like that would be the case, but the AI acts a lot differently.

[Apost Khan]

The logo glitch keeps happening to me which makes the creation suite really frustrating, especially for those who want to make caws for the community but the logos just keep getting out of place

But the glitch u had during a match has happen to me like once or twice, not more than that.

Yeah seriously, obviously since no one is talking about the glitch I'm guessing it's rare and probably has a fix, but a clean install of the game didn't even work for me. It really is frustrating because I want to get into some CAW'ing on PC as almost no one makes CAW's there.

The glitch happens if you do body morphing before applying logos. The system doesn't seem to be able to interpret the changes and match the positioning. I've suffered far worse glitches with CS. When making female caws I routinely run into a bug where I can't go back and edit their face or all my logos become invisible. So I end up with Candice LaRae having two detailed attires and a face that looks like The Hills Have Eyes and I can't do a thing to fix it without making the entire caw over from scratch. And as a huge Stardom fan, this one really pisses me off, when making Asian skin color on female caws, the skin for no reason turns green.

That out of the ring glitch has been in this series since the introduction of OMG moments. The AI prioritizes the table break and suicide dive OMG moments over finishers. You need to remove that OMG moment from everyone. Also in their attributes, if environmental offense is anything higher that 45, the AI will continually hop out of the ring and try to fight outside. If the Foreign Object stat for a guy is over 45, he will also grab weapons even though it isn't a no DQ. These have been broken for a while to the point where, like the submission system, I don't think they will ever fix it. 

Edited May 6, 2016 by Apost Khan

[Cerb]

The logo glitch keeps happening to me which makes the creation suite really frustrating, especially for those who want to make caws for the community but the logos just keep getting out of place

But the glitch u had during a match has happen to me like once or twice, not more than that.

Yeah seriously, obviously since no one is talking about the glitch I'm guessing it's rare and probably has a fix, but a clean install of the game didn't even work for me. It really is frustrating because I want to get into some CAW'ing on PC as almost no one makes CAW's there.

The glitch happens if you do body morphing before applying logos. The system doesn't seem to be able to interpret the changes and match the positioning. I've suffered far worse glitches with CS. When making female caws I routinely run into a bug where I can't go back and edit their face or all my logos become invisible. So I end up with Candice LaRae having two detailed attires and a face that looks like The Hills Have Eyes and I can't do a thing to fix it without making the entire caw over from scratch. And as a huge Stardom fan, this one really pisses me off, when making Asian skin color on female caws, the skin for no reason turns green.

That out of the ring glitch has been in this series since the introduction of OMG moments. The AI prioritizes the table break and suicide dive OMG moments over finishers. You need to remove that OMG moment from everyone. Also in their attributes, if environmental offense is anything higher that 45, the AI will continually hop out of the ring and try to fight outside. If the Foreign Object stat for a guy is over 45, he will also grab weapons even though it isn't a no DQ. These have been broken for a while to the point where, like the submission system, I don't think they will ever fix it. 

Alright cheers man. They fixed the submission system though, they introduced a new one this year, I'm not sure if it was in the last one but they definitely got rid of that button smashing shit.

[Apost Khan]

The logo glitch keeps happening to me which makes the creation suite really frustrating, especially for those who want to make caws for the community but the logos just keep getting out of place

But the glitch u had during a match has happen to me like once or twice, not more than that.

Yeah seriously, obviously since no one is talking about the glitch I'm guessing it's rare and probably has a fix, but a clean install of the game didn't even work for me. It really is frustrating because I want to get into some CAW'ing on PC as almost no one makes CAW's there.

The glitch happens if you do body morphing before applying logos. The system doesn't seem to be able to interpret the changes and match the positioning. I've suffered far worse glitches with CS. When making female caws I routinely run into a bug where I can't go back and edit their face or all my logos become invisible. So I end up with Candice LaRae having two detailed attires and a face that looks like The Hills Have Eyes and I can't do a thing to fix it without making the entire caw over from scratch. And as a huge Stardom fan, this one really pisses me off, when making Asian skin color on female caws, the skin for no reason turns green.

That out of the ring glitch has been in this series since the introduction of OMG moments. The AI prioritizes the table break and suicide dive OMG moments over finishers. You need to remove that OMG moment from everyone. Also in their attributes, if environmental offense is anything higher that 45, the AI will continually hop out of the ring and try to fight outside. If the Foreign Object stat for a guy is over 45, he will also grab weapons even though it isn't a no DQ. These have been broken for a while to the point where, like the submission system, I don't think they will ever fix it. 

Alright cheers man. They fixed the submission system though, they introduced a new one this year, I'm not sure if it was in the last one but they definitely got rid of that button smashing shit.

Ah yeah, they did a solid job fixing it on the players end, but I meant the AI, submissions from the AI side are still totally broken. No matter what you do to the attributes you cant produce accurate results in AI vs AI matches. Either you have guys tapping out to basic rest holds, or submission finishers do next to nothing. There is no way to make a submission finisher as powerful as a regular finisher without also making normal submission moves equally as powerful, so either submission guys are totally over powered or they are total lightweights. The balancing is totally messed up. Left normal I had Samoa Joe defeat Buddy Murphy in 33 seconds with a basic hold. Edited so that basic submissions weren't instant victories I had Becky and Sasha fight for 24 mins, each getting in their finishers 5 times, with the match ultimately ending with an O'Connor roll. No matter how much testing and tinkering I do I can't get them to work as they should. As someone who plays nothing but universe mode, it really bugs the hell outta me.

[HiPcavallo]

Submission finishers in general are an issue. Unless you're able to maintain your stamina it's easier to win with regular submissions because the additional power isn't substantial enough and doesn't make up for the extra cost in stamina. Once I hit the last stamina bar I can win with regular submissions but I can never win with a submission finisher because I always burn through my stamina too quickly. They need to increase the power and/or decrease the stamina cost for submission finishers.

[Smacktalks]

I had the logo glitch too which made it impossible to place logos, it was on console to begin with aswell but it got patched early on.

As for getting thrown out the ring i've not noticed it myself but what you could do is rename your save folder and start a fresh save to see if it keeps happening incase its the traits and its been patched but is stuck in your game save. If it doesn't make a difference just delete the new save and rename your original save back.

[the King Lives]

Submission finishers in general are an issue. Unless you're able to maintain your stamina it's easier to win with regular submissions because the additional power isn't substantial enough and doesn't make up for the extra cost in stamina. Once I hit the last stamina bar I can win with regular submissions but I can never win with a submission finisher because I always burn through my stamina too quickly. They need to increase the power and/or decrease the stamina cost for submission finishers.

i haven't had an issue with sub finishers that much at all. hell i even won with very little stamina as ken shamrock against bret. what you need to do is just not boost all the time just boost when you're chasing. you don't have to overlay the bar completely over the ai's just about 1/3 of the way on theirs long \enough for it to start to fill the bar. when it's near fully red, that's when you go for the overlay.

[cloudropis]

Submission finishers in general are an issue. Unless you're able to maintain your stamina it's easier to win with regular submissions because the additional power isn't substantial enough and doesn't make up for the extra cost in stamina. Once I hit the last stamina bar I can win with regular submissions but I can never win with a submission finisher because I always burn through my stamina too quickly. They need to increase the power and/or decrease the stamina cost for submission finishers.

You shouldn't need to use boost at all if you do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9sHlnGGhrE . Basically don't chase the Blue, wait for him, overlap for a couple of seconds, and when he escapes you rotate in the opposite direction (ie if he escapes clockwise, you go counter-clockwise) until you overlap again for a few moments, rinse and repeat until tapping. I submit people all the time and I used Boost maybe twice.

But yeah, Apost Khan is right, there is basically no reason not to use regular grapple submissions instead of risking wasting a finisher. I think they got good results in what, SvR2009? Where unless you had a specific skill you could never submit people unless you had a submission finisher, if you had it you could make people tap with everything. But I'm used to THQ nailing a gameplay feature to just ruin it in further iterations of the franchise (SvR2007's ladder system was PERFECT, they dumbed it down the few next games and now it's one of the shittiest ever made)

[HiPcavallo]

Ha, maybe I just suck with the submission wheel then. Thanks for the tips, I'll have to try them out next time I play. But it's still a valid point, I shouldn't be finding it easier to win with regular submissions over submission finishers. One way or another they need to find a better balance in regards to their damage output.

[Cerb]

Ha, maybe I just suck with the submission wheel then. Thanks for the tips, I'll have to try them out next time I play. But it's still a valid point, I shouldn't be finding it easier to win with regular submissions over submission finishers. One way or another they need to find a better balance in regards to their damage output.

Yes your point is valid. While learning the new submission system is just trial and error and everyone will eventually get it, their system is still broken in the fact that regular submissions and finisher submissions are pretty much the same.

[A.M. Gaming]

the logo glitch is very frustrating,happens with me also,another thing that happens with me is sometimes i run the game(1st time when i turn on my PC),i start a match and the game goes into the pause menu,i select continue,it again goes to pause,and it keeps going to pause everytime i select continue,if i quit the match,i get black screen.then i restart the game and it works fine,but its frustrating,i'm thinking of getting a PS4 for WWE games since on PC i have every game i like,but the game is playable.
i love the pinfall system,but i hate the submission one,the breaking logo submission was the best one

[cloudropis]

the logo glitch is very frustrating,happens with me also,another thing that happens with me is sometimes i run the game(1st time when i turn on my PC),i start a match and the game goes into the pause menu,i select continue,it again goes to pause,and it keeps going to pause everytime i select continue,if i quit the match,i get black screen.then i restart the game and it works fine,but its frustrating,i'm thinking of getting a PS4 for WWE games since on PC i have every game i like,but the game is playable.
i love the pinfall system,but i hate the submission one,the breaking logo submission was the best one

You mean the Breaking Point system? It was just button mashing and it only worked in 2k15.

[the King Lives]

the logo glitch is very frustrating,happens with me also,another thing that happens with me is sometimes i run the game(1st time when i turn on my PC),i start a match and the game goes into the pause menu,i select continue,it again goes to pause,and it keeps going to pause everytime i select continue,if i quit the match,i get black screen.then i restart the game and it works fine,but its frustrating,i'm thinking of getting a PS4 for WWE games since on PC i have every game i like,but the game is playable.
i love the pinfall system,but i hate the submission one,the breaking logo submission was the best one

You mean the Breaking Point system? It was just button mashing and it only worked in 2k15.

yeah that button mashing system was horrible. I'm glad it's gone. you just have to get better at it. After i reallized i was looking at the bars wrong (blue for red and vice versa), i had no problem with it

[A.M. Gaming]

the logo glitch is very frustrating,happens with me also,another thing that happens with me is sometimes i run the game(1st time when i turn on my PC),i start a match and the game goes into the pause menu,i select continue,it again goes to pause,and it keeps going to pause everytime i select continue,if i quit the match,i get black screen.then i restart the game and it works fine,but its frustrating,i'm thinking of getting a PS4 for WWE games since on PC i have every game i like,but the game is playable.
i love the pinfall system,but i hate the submission one,the breaking logo submission was the best one

You mean the Breaking Point system? It was just button mashing and it only worked in 2k15.

no,the one in 2k15 was horrible,i mean the one in wwe 13 and 2k14

 

[the King Lives]

the logo glitch is very frustrating,happens with me also,another thing that happens with me is sometimes i run the game(1st time when i turn on my PC),i start a match and the game goes into the pause menu,i select continue,it again goes to pause,and it keeps going to pause everytime i select continue,if i quit the match,i get black screen.then i restart the game and it works fine,but its frustrating,i'm thinking of getting a PS4 for WWE games since on PC i have every game i like,but the game is playable.
i love the pinfall system,but i hate the submission one,the breaking logo submission was the best one

You mean the Breaking Point system? It was just button mashing and it only worked in 2k15.

no,the one in 2k15 was horrible,i mean the one in wwe 13 and 2k14

 

that's the same thing dude.. Current gen controllers are alot more fragile than last gen controllers that's the reason why the system was changed. Buttons get jammed easier. you are just going to have to adapt to it and get better at it.  There's like 10 tutorials going around about the sub system. I felt the same way at first but i got better at it as did many other people.