2 help questions (Repeated)

[OnyxRain]

Okay so I know I'm stubborn and a noob. Sue me? I have looked at a few tutorials and all of them seem to be for 2k15 so I get lost in trying to figure them out for 2k16. These are my questions if you haven't guessed again by now.

1. How do we change names of existing wrestlers in 2k16. These are the steps I have but I have yet to get them to work so I think I'm messing up somewhere. And it's using the newest Xpacker and someone said we had to use Hex Editor or was it Cheat Engine? Neither of which am I all that familiar with either but yes I have all three.

1st - Open string.pac as pac file.
2nd - Open 4000.pac as pach file.
3rd - Uncompress 0000
4th - Ctrl & 0 - Open 0000.zlib.uncompressed
5th - Edit All Names Matching the one you want to change (They must be the same length or longer then what you want to add)
6th - Open 4000.pac as pach file - inject into 0000.zlib.uncompressed
7th - Open string.pac as pac file - Inject 4000.pac

If these are the right steps then I'm not understanding how I can inject a file while another is still open. Like step 6 and then step 7? Remember I told you and I didn't lie when I said I was a noob. But I ask questions to try and learn these things so maybe I can help someone else when they have this same trouble.

2. How do we actually replace wrestlers in 2k16 with ones in 15 that we know we are not going to use. I know it's down with Xpacker I just can't seem to for the life of me figure that out and I have read the tutorials from last year. Maybe this is something I'm just not suppose to learn but I know I can. I'm just more picky to of who I over right since there are so few diva's in the actual game. I'm hoping we can over right males with them and have them still be diva's.

 

Anyway those are my only 2 requests and I'll not ask again. Either I'll find the answers or I won't but I know you all must be tired of the new guy asking the same thing all the time. Honestly I do want to know and I hope I can then pay it forward. Thanks in advance to anyone that even replies. Just please don't tell me to go looking for a tutorial unless you are going to link it. And I'll look at it again even if I already have that's a promise. Maybe I'll see something I missed.

 

 

 

[Auday]

Not sure about number 1 honestly, but I can answer number 2. Just extract the 2k15 pach file from the pac and inject it into someones pac on 2k16. For example extract the pach from 2k15 punk and then open Arnold's T1 2k16 pac and press inject and then inject the 2k15 punk pach.

Edited March 15, 2016 by Auday Elyafe

[beastedot9]

For the first one, without being there with you its hard to tell what you're doing. But regardless it seems like the last steps are confusing, for the last two steps you have to:

- Open 4000.pac as PACH (ctrl + 3), once opened, inject the 0000.zlib.uncompressed into the 0000 slot.

- Once you've injected, press ctrl + q to open the pac file (string.pac) and press inject on 4000 and inject the 4000.pac that you just injected 0000 into. Not the one ending in .bak but .pac.

- Also make sure none of your backup files are in your game folder as it will mess it up and not load the new strings.

 

For the second one, what Auday said is true but here's another method and you can choose the one simpler for you:

- Open up your hex editor (I recommend HxD)

- Drag for example ch109.pac (Hulk Hogan) from 2k15 into HxD.

- Press ctrl + f and make sure you are searching for text strings. Search for the value "EMD"

- Here you will see 000##### (First 3 ### is the CH id so 109 for Hulk Hogan, last two is attire number or type, 02 means first attire, 04 means first entrance attire and then 12 means second attire and so on).

- Replace the first 3 values with the CH id of the person you want to replace (e.g Santino is 201) and press ctrl + s to save. Then add it to your game and he should be there under santino and you can play with Hogan now.

 

That said, there are still renders, titantrons to add so Hogan doesn't come out to Santino's tron and music

Also, list of CH ID's: http://smacktalks.org/forums/topic/58866-wwe-2k16-complete-ch-pac-list/

Sorry this is a bit of a long post but I hope it helps  

[OnyxRain]

To tell you both the truth I think you two have helped the most with both of these already. I'll probably go with Xpacker because I really think it's easier once you know how to use it and I get lost pretty easy. I guess you can tell that by my posts. I really was becoming a bit frustrated when I bought both 15 and 16 for PC to leave and stop playing it on PS4. So I will give this another go and we'll see the results thanks again to both of you!

Now two more questions and they should be easier.

1. Doesn't the wrestler I overwrite with the one from 15 have to be a bigger or equal file size? And can I overwrite a male with a diva?

2. Doesn't the wrestler's whose name I'm changing also have to be longer or at least the same length as the one I'm adding?

[beastedot9]

1. Nope, only the console versions seem to have a filesize issue due to .arc files but the PC version has no such limitation. Also, yes you can overwrite a male with a diva.

2. Yes indeed it does, so Hulk Hogan would definitely not fit into a string slot where EMMA is

Good luck and have fun!

[magnoun]

For the second one, what Auday said is true but here's another method and you can choose the one simpler for you:

- Open up your hex editor (I recommend HxD)

- Drag for example ch109.pac (Hulk Hogan) from 2k15 into HxD.

- Press ctrl + f and make sure you are searching for text strings. Search for the value "EMD"

- Here you will see 000##### (First 3 ### is the CH id so 109 for Hulk Hogan, last two is attire number or type, 02 means first attire, 04 means first entrance attire and then 12 means second attire and so on).

- Replace the first 3 values with the CH id of the person you want to replace (e.g Santino is 201) and press ctrl + s to save. Then add it to your game and he should be there under santino and you can play with Hogan now.

 

That said, there are still renders, titantrons to add so Hogan doesn't come out to Santino's tron and music

Also, list of CH ID's: http://smacktalks.org/forums/topic/58866-wwe-2k16-complete-ch-pac-list/

Sorry this is a bit of a long post but I hope it helps  

Thanks for the tutorial but I tried this method and as soon as I tried to play as Santino it crashed. I changed both the first attire number and entrance to 201. Am I suppose to delete Santino's pac? or rename the actual pac file for Hogan? (I was also using the bald hogan 2k15 pac if that makes a difference)

Edited March 16, 2016 by magnoun

[beastedot9]

 

Thanks for the tutorial but I tried this method and as soon as I tried to play as Santino it crashed. I changed both the first attire number and entrance to 201. Am I suppose to delete Santino's pac? or rename the actual pac file for Hogan?

Ah yes I forgot about that limitation, x-packer it is then

- You'll need to extract hogan's in-ring and entrance PACH separately (00010902, 00010904). Open the 2K16 ch pac file in x-packer and inject one of hogan's PACH files.

- You'll need to do this separately for each attire. Make sure you rename the pac file to the appropriate attire number. (E.g ch20104 for entrance or ch20112 for second in-ring attire and so on).

 

[Auday]

To tell you both the truth I think you two have helped the most with both of these already. I'll probably go with Xpacker because I really think it's easier once you know how to use it and I get lost pretty easy. I guess you can tell that by my posts. I really was becoming a bit frustrated when I bought both 15 and 16 for PC to leave and stop playing it on PS4. So I will give this another go and we'll see the results thanks again to both of you!

Now two more questions and they should be easier.

1. Doesn't the wrestler I overwrite with the one from 15 have to be a bigger or equal file size? And can I overwrite a male with a diva?

2. Doesn't the wrestler's whose name I'm changing also have to be longer or at least the same length as the one I'm adding?

Yeah I would always go with the X-Packer method since you're a starter. I use it because I hate using the hex editor. And ask as many questions as you want. I mean at least you post in the right section and ask specific questions. I hate people who are like "How to mod on PC?" No, do your research then ask questions lol.

For 1, I don't think size matters if you use my method. I used it A LOT of times and it always worked despite size. You can overwrite a male with a diva but then you can't play him with men unless you gender hack the diva you replaced.

For 2 I honestly have no clue, but from what I read around the forum, that's true.

[OnyxRain]

Okay okay I know I said no more questions lol BUT I can't help asking this. Can I do something like have 2 Alundra Blaze's in my 2k16 by overwriting another wrestler with her info? I ask this because I know someone over wrote her for AJ and AJ is someone I want in my game but I hate to lose another Diva when we have so few already.

[beastedot9]

Okay okay I know I said no more questions lol BUT I can't help asking this. Can I do something like have 2 Alundra Blaze's in my 2k16 by overwriting another wrestler with her info? I ask this because I know someone over wrote her for AJ and AJ is someone I want in my game but I hate to lose another Diva when we have so few already.

I'm curious as to why you want 2 Alundra Blayze's in your game but yes once you unlock attires through the misc.pac, you can just copy and paste another of her pac file and rename it to ch###12.

[Auday]

Okay okay I know I said no more questions lol BUT I can't help asking this. Can I do something like have 2 Alundra Blaze's in my 2k16 by overwriting another wrestler with her info? I ask this because I know someone over wrote her for AJ and AJ is someone I want in my game but I hate to lose another Diva when we have so few already.

Yes you could inject Alundra's pach to another diva you want to overwrite and then edit the name and info using cheat engine methods. I would keep Alundra if you wanna keep her and inject Aj's pach to another diva you want to replace. Tekken is working on the new X-Packer. Later when it's released we won't have to replace people anymore. We will inject them into empty slots and they will appear on the menu without replacing anyone. Last I heard we will have 92 empty slots we could inject people to.

[magnoun]

 

Thanks for the tutorial but I tried this method and as soon as I tried to play as Santino it crashed. I changed both the first attire number and entrance to 201. Am I suppose to delete Santino's pac? or rename the actual pac file for Hogan?

Ah yes I forgot about that limitation, x-packer it is then

- You'll need to extract hogan's in-ring and entrance PACH separately (00010902, 00010904). Open the 2K16 ch pac file in x-packer and inject one of hogan's PACH files.

- You'll need to do this separately for each attire. Make sure you rename the pac file to the appropriate attire number. (E.g ch20104 for entrance or ch20112 for second in-ring attire and so on).

 

Thanks for the quick reply, will test that out right now but also..

Okay okay I know I said no more questions lol BUT I can't help asking this. Can I do something like have 2 Alundra Blaze's in my 2k16 by overwriting another wrestler with her info? I ask this because I know someone over wrote her for AJ and AJ is someone I want in my game but I hate to lose another Diva when we have so few already.

Yes you could inject Alundra's pach to another diva you want to overwrite and then edit the name and info using cheat engine methods. I would keep Alundra if you wanna keep her and inject Aj's pach to another diva you want to replace. Tekken is working on the new X-Packer. Later when it's released we won't have to replace people anymore. We will inject them into empty slots and they will appear on the menu without replacing anyone. Last I heard we will have 92 empty slots we could inject people to.

Tekken released the update for that today, to put in wrestlers without replacing others. Do you know how to do that? Because I'd prefer adding Hogan and the other wrestlers in addition to the current 2k16 superstars rather than replacing them but it seems like a much more complicated process.

[OnyxRain]

Actually we have empty spaces now if I look at Pozzum's table. Couldn't we just inject all our wanted from 2k15 into all those "Press Space" Character slots?

 

ETA: I don't really want 2 Alundra's I was asking because I don't really want to take away any diva's. I'll just stick with removing males I know I won't play and it'll be easier since I already cheat to make all males and females wrestle as equals. Mostly because I still like the old inter-gender tag-team type matches.

First thing I'm going to try is my number 1 by putting The Great Khali in for Zak Ryder. If that works from what I'm reading here then I know I can do the rest as far as trons and things go. Then I'll try the renaming thing because I want to change Dolph Ziggler's name to Big Mac Gyver. Remember I use this game to create my own Fed and BMG as he's known is one of the guys and some wrestlers are just easier to keep by renaming then making a CAW for them.

Edited March 16, 2016 by OnyxRain

[Auday]

Oh never noticed Tekken released the new X-Packer. If you guys have the newest X-Packer go to Pozzums channel he has 2k15 tutotials on how to inject superstars to empty slots. Should be the same process as 2k16. I would love to help but never tried doing that. 

[OnyxRain]

Something is still wrong. When I take out The Great Khali pach file which I guess it is. It's numbered 00045502.pac and just try to inject that into Zak Ryder's pac file which is numbered ch21902.pac. I end up with A normal Zak Ryder in my game. When I extract the Pach 00045502.pac of Khali and try injecting each part into Zak Ryder's ch21902.pac file the same thing. So I know there is something missing. My game still works just no change is actually made so what am I really missing?

 

I'm going to try the rename thing now while you all ponder and maybe help me out on the above. Lets hope for some success with the rename.

[beastedot9]

With xpacker, I haven't really tried much in that regard but I know that the pofos are slightly different this year. Perhaps someone can help there as I haven't got the newest xpacker.

As for why Ryder is still showing up. I have the feeling that you have a backup of the pac file in your game folder.

[Auday]

That's weird. Can you please try to record a video while you're doing the process. I am pretty sure that's how you do it since I do it daily. Are you sure after you're injecting it to Zack's pac you're replacing it with the old pac in the2k16 game folder?

As for why Ryder is still showing up. I have the feeling that you have a backup of the pac file in your game folder.

Yup, could be this too.^^ Make sure you keep backups is a different folder.

[OnyxRain]

I always delete .bak files so I know it's not that. I can try a video. I don't promise how good it will turn out but I don't mind having you see me do it so you can watch.

 

On a good note though. The rename finally worked and here's picture proof:

 

I know it says alt attire thats because I was just using this to show him off. What I am wondering though on this is. If I alter this alt attire can I overwrite the original attire with it and just drop the alt attire after? So he'll look a little differently dressed all the time?

Now let me try making that video if I can before I have to sleep. It shouldn't take too long since it's only a few steps. I have fraps so I'll use that and we'll see how it goes.

Doesn't look like fraps wants to video me using Xpacker not sure why. If you want I can screen each step and see how that goes? It's the best I can do since I don't know why the video maker isn't working for this.

[OnyxRain]

Screen shots aren't going to work either because I can't paste them to the paint program in the middle of steps. So that's out. Just so you both know though I did try again and still ended up with normal Zak Ryder so I'm missing something somewhere whatever that something is I don't know.

[OnyxRain]

This is what I know doesn't work maybe we can go from there?

If I open The Great Khali pac file and just try to inject it right into Ryder is says it works but that's a lie. I still end up with normal Ryder when I switch the save.

One thing I can say is I'm dealing with files that are NOT in my games folder. Then moving them after the work is done. Maybe that's the problem? Somehow I doubt that though. I just delete the real Zak and replace it with the new one it just doesn't seem to have changed.

I think I need to do something else. Maybe something that actually involves more injections somehow only I wouldn't know what to what other then attires. BUT I can't seem to open those really unless I open them as PACH files then I get a long list and I can't inject that whole list at once into something else so that's another place if that's the problem where I'm stomped.

It's almost 11PM here so I'm off to get some sleep but I'll be back to work more on this in the morning. Sure do wish there was some easier way. Like just adding this guy to a blank spot that would work better then I could just hide Zak all together.

[beastedot9]

I say start with a fresh copy and make sure you are doing these steps:

- Open Khali's pac file (ctrl + q) and extract the PACH (000###02) to your desktop.

- Now open Ryder's pac file (ctrl + q again) and click inject and inject that PACH file from Khali (000###02).

- Copy and paste Ryder's pac file back to the game folder and all should be good to go.

 

 

[OnyxRain]

I'll try that now Beastedot.

Mean time I'm having another problem this morning. I wanted to prep Zak to become Khali so I was going to change his name. Only now when I try to decompress the 0000 file from the 4000 PACH I get this:

 

Sorry the pic is so big I'll make sure to shrink it next time. You get the idea though of what's going on. So now I can't change any more names until I figure out a way to overcome this problem.

I tried what you said with Zak and Khali still a no go Zak just seems to refuse to change. I'm at a total loss and now without being able to change names things aren't looking so good. I really want these things to work since they are the whole reason I paid for both these games on PC. I know it's hard to help when you can't see what I'm doing. If I could just get fraps to record what I do so you all could see and tell me where I'm doing it wrong that would be the bigger help. Any idea on another easy to use and maybe free screen video program? I paid for my version of fraps just not sure why it's not working.

[beastedot9]

For the 0000 file just press extract because you've already uncompressed it.

As for ryder I really have no idea. I know there's camtasia studio that has a trial version you could use.

[OnyxRain]

I managed to get change Zak's tron to Kahli's and fixed the lights enough to work with him so the entrance won't look goofy when I finally figure out how to over right him with Kahali's files. I'll look for camtasia and see if that works. I'd love to figure out what I'm doing wrong so it finally works right. Thanks for all the answers so far.

[OnyxRain]

Still no luck with changing Zak to Khali so I don't know. I will say this is very discouraging. I'm not sure how much more time and effort I want to put into things that just seem out of my reach. I'm not ashamed to say when it just looks like some things are made to be beyond me. What seems like a simple process isn't at least not to me. I did try to make a video and it didn't work so I'm out there for help with this. Unless someone makes a video tutorial of how to convert a 2K16 wrestler from a 2k15 one then I'm probably doomed. I'll live with that and know I tried even if I hate having wasted the money on 2 games and tools that now have little use to me. Live and learn is what we do.

Please don't take this as I'm totally giving up. I will keep trying. I'm just not going to put all the time I have been in the last few days. When I could and probably should be enjoying other things and not frustrating myself with things like this. Thank you to the ones that offered help and support. I just wish I understood things better. It has nothing at all to do with you.