champion gamer Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 fk'n hell people sent you death threats, all over a few mods not saying your mods are bad as i thought they where quality but really sending death threats over mods is extreme to say the least Quote
Apost Khan Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 @Apost Khan I received death threats and other various vulgar PM's last year. Do you honestly think it's going to be different this year? Absolutely not, in fact it will be worse due to how better 2k16 is than 2k15. Wow. That is insane. I never see that side of the community. I had no idea that element existed here. What the hell is wrong with people? "This guy makes amazing mods. I want more mods from him. What can I do to get them? I know! I'll threaten his life. That'll make him do what I want." WTF makes a person think like that? And you're right. It will be 10x worse because 2k16 is a much better game. Damn. I honestly had no clue things were that toxic here. Quote
bravebird31 Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 This really annoyed me. How's Wrestlecrafts coming along? I need a place to crash until these type of folks rage quit the site again. The real question is, why would I bother continuing to create an outlet for something I won't be participating in? The only thing I would say is try make this place better, the community should defend it's most valuable contributor (Tekken) for his enabling of modding in the first place; I'm surprised Tekken has continued to assist. I hear that. I miss the days when it was only people with JTAGs could mod WWE games. I remember when the biggest problem we had was figuring out how Brien J was doing what we thought was impossible. I remember what it was like when all we could do was add textures and sometimes we couldn't even do that because of not being able to compress the files. Don't get me started on adding DLC or even small stuff like figuring out how to get WWE 12 models to work in future games. I remember when Tekken first told me and a some of the other modders, he had figured out how to import models back into the game (This was before XRey was a thing), it blew our minds that we could make the game do what we wanted. I think it was moments like that, where I got to be on the ground floor of the big changes that makes me love modding this game. Because we all built like a kind of fraternity of modders, where we all enjoyed seeing what the other modders could do because limits were being removed, and that is thanks to Tekken and his hard work. So I think that's why in spite of the BS I keep modding. You'll never be free, lol!!!Que the people who cuss out Tekken. (already seen it on Reddit)This really annoyed me. How's Wrestlecrafts coming along? I need a place to crash until these type of folks rage quit the site again. This really annoyed me. How's Wrestlecrafts coming along? I need a place to crash until these type of folks rage quit the site again. The real question is, why would I bother continuing to create an outlet for something I won't be participating in? The only thing I would say is try make this place better, the community should defend it's most valuable contributor (Tekken) for his enabling of modding in the first place; I'm surprised Tekken has continued to assist. lol come on guys, what do you expect from Reddit? You guys can't really judge the whole lot of us based on a few PCMR posters who never got that PCMR is something ironic and not real. Hell, they've called me a peasant for using a controller / running an AMD build. They are best just left ignored to shout into their little echo chamber. We might get some confused people here, and some people whose parents failed to teach them how to ask nicely and say thank you, but I doubt we'll attract many of that particular ilk here, and if we do, they won't last long. Then again, I can only imagine the crazy PM's you two have received over the past year.I get what you're saying. I'll just say for me, my transition form modding 360 games to PC was frustrating. It was crazy when people was dedicating whole threads on why I was a jerk, because I had my mods password protected (That came after someone tried to steal my mod). Didn't really have problems like that prior to modding the PC version. That's why I'm not looking forward to that. Once people like that moved on I enjoyed meeting the new modders and seeing new ideas. 1 Quote
Apost Khan Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) This really annoyed me. How's Wrestlecrafts coming along? I need a place to crash until these type of folks rage quit the site again. The real question is, why would I bother continuing to create an outlet for something I won't be participating in? The only thing I would say is try make this place better, the community should defend it's most valuable contributor (Tekken) for his enabling of modding in the first place; I'm surprised Tekken has continued to assist. I hear that. I miss the days when it was only people with JTAGs could mod WWE games. I remember when the biggest problem we had was figuring out how Brien J was doing what we thought was impossible. I remember what it was like when all we could do was add textures and sometimes we couldn't even do that because of not being able to compress the files. Don't get me started on adding DLC or even small stuff like figuring out how to get WWE 12 models to work in future games. I remember when Tekken first told me and a some of the other modders, he had figured out how to import models back into the game (This was before XRey was a thing), it blew our minds that we could make the game do what we wanted. I think it was moments like that, where I got to be on the ground floor of the big changes that makes me love modding this game. Because we all built like a kind of fraternity of modders, where we all enjoyed seeing what the other modders could do because limits were being removed, and that is thanks to Tekken and his hard work. So I think that's why in spite of the BS I keep modding.You'll never be free, lol!!!Que the people who cuss out Tekken. (already seen it on Reddit)This really annoyed me. How's Wrestlecrafts coming along? I need a place to crash until these type of folks rage quit the site again. This really annoyed me. How's Wrestlecrafts coming along? I need a place to crash until these type of folks rage quit the site again. The real question is, why would I bother continuing to create an outlet for something I won't be participating in? The only thing I would say is try make this place better, the community should defend it's most valuable contributor (Tekken) for his enabling of modding in the first place; I'm surprised Tekken has continued to assist. lol come on guys, what do you expect from Reddit? You guys can't really judge the whole lot of us based on a few PCMR posters who never got that PCMR is something ironic and not real. Hell, they've called me a peasant for using a controller / running an AMD build. They are best just left ignored to shout into their little echo chamber. We might get some confused people here, and some people whose parents failed to teach them how to ask nicely and say thank you, but I doubt we'll attract many of that particular ilk here, and if we do, they won't last long. Then again, I can only imagine the crazy PM's you two have received over the past year.I get what you're saying. I'll just say for me, my transition form modding 360 games to PC was frustrating. It was crazy when people was dedicating whole threads on why I was a jerk, because I had my mods password protected (That came after someone tried to steal my mod). Didn't really have problems like that prior to modding the PC version. That's why I'm not looking forward to that. Once people like that moved on I enjoyed meeting the new modders and seeing new ideas. I know that theft was becoming a problem but I had no idea the level of harassment you guys were dealing with. It makes me depressed to hear that about our community and I thank both of you for continuing to give us cool stuff despite all that negativity. I know I always compliment everyone's work in my videos, but I really do think that you two made some of the top mods for 2k15 that I used the most and that enhanced my gameplay experience the most. But those are two huge reasons why I've argued that we need to try to get on Nexus. It will protect you as the modders from having your work stolen and it makes it harder for people to be dicks. This is the only modding community that I know of that isn't protected by nexus or some sort of membership state. To be honest the more I hear about theft and this wave of ungrateful toxic users, I don't know if such a thing is even possible, but it would make a ton of sense if you guys could lock your mods behind a rep wall or something of that nature, but then again, that's an unnecessary amount of work for something that is suppose to be a fun hobby. It's a shame people can't just behave like decent human beings. And whenever one of my viewers complains about Tekken and Xpacker, I tell them that I too appose paid mods but this is different. I explain to them that in this case, with this franchise, the money is a wall that exists for peoples own protection as much as anything else. If Tekken gave it away for free, 8 out of 10 people would mess their game up beyond repair, or some dumbass would make nude mods and then 2K would put an end to modding as a whole like what happened to renders after KG's tool hit in 2k12/13. It is a powerful tool, that can have very negative side effects in the hands of an idiot. Charging money for it limits the risk of bad things happening. Edited February 18, 2016 by Apost Khan Quote
wtferrell Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 As a big supporter of Tekken's tools, and him receiving the donations for the tool, I don't understand putting the entire community into the same group as these turds who have issue with the required donations. I bought 3-4 copies of the tool last year for various guys, and some of the top modders. For me, if someone else more talented than I am can have the tools to create mods that i want to see, then awesome. This is one of the only reasons I wish it were free, because I know there are a lot of guys who, if they had the tools, could produce. But I definitely understand and support Tekken's decision. He's greatly talented. To be discouraged or upset that the PC community gets a PC release, I don't understand. In the end, most of us do this for fun, not e-recognition. I have the PS4 version, and although there are some great CAW's the limitations are too great to make guys blend in with the regular in game superstars. I tried to enjoy it, but in the end, blurred logos, face paints, lack of custom trons, lack of custom music, the game just couldn't hold my interest. The gameplay is greatly improved over WWE 2k15, so for myself, I'm ecstatic that it's coming to PC. If we can get Hogan and a few other guys from last years title over to WWE 2k16, then we all win, ha. For those of you who are returning to modding, I can't wait to see what you fellas come up with. Quote
wtferrell Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I agree with that. Some of the guys who I bought the tools for, I didn't know in the least. But they were putting out some great textures. Figured the pc community would be better off with them being able to use the tools. They told me through PM that their financial situations otherwise wouldn't have allowed them to buy the tool. Some folks aren't blessed with the means to purchase mod tools, but they are blessed with the gifts of being extremely talented artistically. If more guys had the tool, ultimately, I feel that the mod community would be better off. The threats, etc, I also agree with. There's no place for that type of nonsense. But in a career in law enforcement, you see it daily. Everyone doesn't conform to the laws of being a decent human being, and feel entitled to whatever it is they're after. It's a sad world. The community as a whole isn't rotten, but a single bad apple can ruin a bunch, or at least make you want to throw out the rest of the bunch. I get it, I'm just personally excited to be able to fix Sting, hopefully bring Hogan over, and enjoy all of the extras wwe 2k16 brought. Quote
ItzTheRampage Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Well im also not happy about paying 14 $ for a mod tool but i can´t resist Quote
Red Rooster Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) I hear that. I miss the days when it was only people with JTAGs could mod WWE games. I remember when the biggest problem we had was figuring out how Brien J was doing what we thought was impossible. I remember what it was like when all we could do was add textures and sometimes we couldn't even do that because of not being able to compress the files. Don't get me started on adding DLC or even small stuff like figuring out how to get WWE 12 models to work in future games. I remember when Tekken first told me and a some of the other modders, he had figured out how to import models back into the game (This was before XRey was a thing), it blew our minds that we could make the game do what we wanted. I think it was moments like that, where I got to be on the ground floor of the big changes that makes me love modding this game. Because we all built like a kind of fraternity of modders, where we all enjoyed seeing what the other modders could do because limits were being removed, and that is thanks to Tekken and his hard work. So I think that's why in spite of the BS I keep modding.Those were great times, thats why I have mainly stayed on 360.I didnt even bother reading the PC modding section for a long time but obviously a lot of shit has gone down that I didnt know about. Sorry to hear about what has been happening to Tekken, Blackbird and Bannockburn.....this is why we cant have nice things. Theres always some fucktards who fuck it up for everyone else Edited February 18, 2016 by Red Rooster 1 Quote
Twistedmisery666™ Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Can't wait to mod it like 2k15 last year glad it's coming out gotta buy it soon. Quote
Auday Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 I think all this is the fault of the admins/mods. Honestly the amount of assholes on this forum is uncountable, however and sadly this is the only place that kind of have a modding community for wrestling games. I still remember when I got suspended for cursing on a guy who stole my stuff. I've went into a lot of arguments with people who stole my stuff (It happened a lot), and usually they never get suspended because the forum admins/moderators here don't value what some people do and think "So what if he stole a texture?" Some guy stole textures 3 TIMES and still wasn't even suspended while if you call someone a faggot you'd get suspended. So dumb honestly. 1 Quote
DrJoeyMagnum Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Well perhaps calling people faggot isn't the way to go 1 Quote
Auday Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Well perhaps calling people faggot isn't the way to go I am not saying calling people faggots is fine. All I am saying is you steal 3 times and nothing happens yet you call someone a faggot and you get suspended. Fair? Not really. Especially when the guy you called a faggot was the one who started the whole thing. Quote
Steenalizer Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Well perhaps calling people faggot isn't the way to go I am not saying calling people faggots is fine. All I am saying is you steal 3 times and nothing happens yet you call someone a faggot and you get suspended. Fair? Not really. Especially when the guy you called a faggot was the one who started the whole thing.How is it fair? One is hate speech and the other is not. You decide which. Quote
fufu ÷ Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Well perhaps calling people faggot isn't the way to go I am not saying calling people faggots is fine. All I am saying is you steal 3 times and nothing happens yet you call someone a faggot and you get suspended. Fair? Not really. Especially when the guy you called a faggot was the one who started the whole thing.It's rarely just one case of calling them a faggot though. You do tend to go on, and on, and on, and on. Not that that excuses their part, but still, you hurt your own case more than help it. 1 Quote
DrJoeyMagnum Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Yeah Auday you need to stop going off the deep end, you're supposedly an adult and yet the tantrums keep happening Quote
Auday Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Well perhaps calling people faggot isn't the way to go I am not saying calling people faggots is fine. All I am saying is you steal 3 times and nothing happens yet you call someone a faggot and you get suspended. Fair? Not really. Especially when the guy you called a faggot was the one who started the whole thing.It's rarely just one case of calling them a faggot though. You do tend to go on, and on, and on, and on. Not that that excuses their part, but still, you hurt your own case more than help it.I hurt my own case because there is no moderator around that helps people. I must suck dicks in PM's for moderators to finally take some action.Yeah Auday you need to stop going off the deep end, you're supposedly an adult and yet the tantrums keep happening I see like you're the one who still wants to bring up crap Joey. I think you saying I have tantrums is not funny at all. And it got old so try to find some new funnier line instead. I have tantrums because I replied to a guy who called me a cunt. However the guy who called me a cunt is so smart and grown up and if he calls me a cunt he's fine but if I do I have tantrums. I think you need to stop judging people around here because I highly doubt anyone is losing sleep because you said they're adults with tantrums. I also think you need to go get some life out of the forum, Joey. 24/7 on this forum dosen't help you in life and trying to insult other people online will ge you no where neither.Well perhaps calling people faggot isn't the way to go I am not saying calling people faggots is fine. All I am saying is you steal 3 times and nothing happens yet you call someone a faggot and you get suspended. Fair? Not really. Especially when the guy you called a faggot was the one who started the whole thing.How is it fair? One is hate speech and the other is not. You decide which.Ok let me put it in another way. You get arrested for caling someone a faggot while if you steal money from someone it's fine and they let you go without arresting you. Do you think it's fair now? I am not saying calling people faggots should be fine all I am saying is you should get suspended for stealing too. However if you think stealing is fine then whatever flies your plane. Quote
DrJoeyMagnum Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 See that's your problem you take everything as a personal insult 1 Quote
Auday Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 See that's your problem you take everything as a personal insult Joey, I am ready to take advice from grown up people around the forum. Not immature adults who keeps breaking the forum rules but they survive due to their relationships with the likes of Sunny. Quote
Steenalizer Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) There's a massive difference between stealing a picture on the internet and stealing money in real life. Both may involve stealing, but it's an invalid argument to compare the two. Calling someone a faggot obviously wouldn't justify an arrest, but in an online forum it would at least warrant a temporary suspension.I don't think stealing is fine at all. I agree that people who steal should be suspended, but it's not going to happen when the person they steal from makes an arse of themselves over it. Edited February 21, 2016 by Steenalizer Quote
Auday Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 There's a massive difference between stealing a picture on the internet and stealing money in real life. Both may involve stealing, but it's an invalid argument to compare the two. Calling someone a faggot obviously wouldn't justify an arrest, but in an online forum it would at least warrant a temporary suspension.I don't think stealing is fine at all. I agree that people who steal should be suspended, but it's not going to happen when the person they steal from makes an arse of themselves over it.I never said stealing a texture is the same as stealing money, you didn't undertsand my point first so I gave you a concept. And I never make an ass out of myself except when I see shitty admins and moderators taking no actions at all. This place is fucked up. Quote
DrJoeyMagnum Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Well that's not true now is it Auday, you've had a few meltdowns over nothing And the sad thing is I'm getting the feeling this is going to become yet another tantrum Quote
Auday Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) Well that's not true now is it Auday, you've had a few meltdowns over nothingJoey, telling a guy to lose his ego and stop calling people cunts because they gave suggestions is not a meltdown over nothing. However it is a meltdown over nothing for you because both of you are assholes and have fun insulting people over fuck all. And re-read my post "And I never make an ass out of myself except when I see shitty admins and moderators taking no actions at all." and back in the day no body took an action, they saw him insulting the guy and moved on without doing anthing and all they did is cleared the topic and never warned him for his language and arrogancy. If you're a smart human being you'd know that his attitude was uncalled for, however if you're an asshole you'll find him insulting people funny and you'll go with his wave. Edited February 21, 2016 by Auday Elyafe Quote
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