stlpowercat Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 Saw this at Wrestlezone....As noted, WWE 2k16 will be featuring a Stone Cold Steve Austin Showcase Mode, and a user over in the 2k forums has revealed the following matches will be included in the video game mode.This is likely not the final list of matches, and more might be included in the final game release, or as DLC:vs. Pillman – Clash Of The Champions XXVvs. Steamboat – Bash At The Beach ’94vs. Whipwreck – November To Remember ’95vs. Vega – WrestleMania XII or In Your House: Beware Of Dogvs. Roberts – King Of The Ring ’96vs. Hart – Survivor Series ’96 (Bret’s attire)vs. Vader vs. Hart vs. Undertaker – In Your House: Final Four (likely reason for Vader’s inclusion, could be for RR ’97 though)vs. Hart – WrestleMania 13 (likely reason for Shamrock’s inclusion)vs. Rock – D-Generation X: In Your House (likely reason for NOD’s inclusion)vs. Michaels – WrestleMania XIV (reason for HHH’s retro DX attire in “Oh Hell Yeah” trailer)vs. Undertaker – Rock Bottom ’98vs. McMahon – St. Valentine’s Day Massacre ’99vs. Rock – Backlash ’99vs. Undertaker – Fully Loaded ’99 (X-Pac’s attire in IGN screen)Royal Rumble 2001vs. Triple H – No Way Out 2001vs. Rock – WrestleMania X-SEVEN Quote
DrJoeyMagnum Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no? Quote
Cerb Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 17 matches and maybe more? And if they make a DLC with more matches for a showcase it would probably be the first DLC i'm not buying for a WWE game Quote
trh2 Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 Until 2k announces a list themselves, grain of salt folks. Quote
the King Lives Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 it's fan made.. the "or" is a dead give away Quote
Sunny Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick. Quote
best in the world Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likely Quote
ichiban Rooster Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likelywould love Hollywood Blondes matches in the game Quote
the King Lives Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likelyDon't forget DDP's awful run in wwe lol Quote
MepsiPax Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 No vs. Rock at 'Mania 19? Come on dude that was his last match. Quote
the King Lives Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 No vs. Rock at 'Mania 19? Come on dude that was his last match.i will say it again, it's most likely a fan made list. 1. it's too short 2. the vega match lists "or" in the sentence and 3. most importantly, the achievements mention reversing 3 finishers in the WM19 match. Quote
MepsiPax Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 I hope we get vs. Rock at Mania 15, X7 & XIX Quote
best in the world Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likelyDon't forget DDP's awful run in wwe lolYeah they took the master of the Diamond Cutter & turned him into a joke. I was hyped about the Taker/DDP feud until I quickly realized he was gonna keep jobbing. The moment WWE set up a match between DDP vs Sara I knew he was doomed.... Quote
the King Lives Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likelyDon't forget DDP's awful run in wwe lolYeah they took the master of the Diamond Cutter & turned him into a joke. I was hyped about the Taker/DDP feud until I quickly realized he was gonna keep jobbing. The moment WWE set up a match between DDP vs Sara I knew he was doomed....yeah and ddp and booker were the 2 main reasons Sting said he didn't jump to wcw at first. Quote
best in the world Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likelyDon't forget DDP's awful run in wwe lolYeah they took the master of the Diamond Cutter & turned him into a joke. I was hyped about the Taker/DDP feud until I quickly realized he was gonna keep jobbing. The moment WWE set up a match between DDP vs Sara I knew he was doomed....yeah and ddp and booker were the 2 main reasons Sting said he didn't jump to wcw at first.Yeah I seen the video interview where Sting specifically referred to an instance where Booker T was on WWE TV & The Rock said "who are you?" & he saw that as unnecessary burying. Which is true & pretty much how all WCW & ECW talent got treated. Quote
the King Lives Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likelyDon't forget DDP's awful run in wwe lolYeah they took the master of the Diamond Cutter & turned him into a joke. I was hyped about the Taker/DDP feud until I quickly realized he was gonna keep jobbing. The moment WWE set up a match between DDP vs Sara I knew he was doomed....yeah and ddp and booker were the 2 main reasons Sting said he didn't jump to wcw at first.Yeah I seen the video interview where Sting specifically referred to an instance where Booker T was on WWE TV & The Rock said "who are you?" & he saw that as unnecessary burying. Which is true & pretty much how all WCW & ECW talent got treated.yeah i think it goes back to an interview that bret hart did in wcw on the first thunder in 98. he told mike tenay that he is a former 5 time WWF Champion but since he was in wcw he figured he had to prove himself all over again. I'm not sure if that was a work, shoot, or worked shoot since it was during the bret/flair feud but it seems to me wwe thought that the wcw and ecw talent had to prove themselves all over again and i mean they buried buff, kanyon, mike awesome, etc it was sad lol Quote
N'Jadaka Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 I could get why he didn't care for how they treated DDP, but Booker T's first major program was with the number 1 face in the company, & it was The Rock's gimmick to run down whoever he faced(from a JTTS like AL Snow to the most respected man in the company in The Undertaker). I think either Sting wasn't familiar with The Rock's gimmick or he was being waaaayyyy too sensitive. Quote
the King Lives Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 I could get why he didn't care for how they treated DDP, but Booker T's first major program was with the number 1 face in the company, & it was The Rock's gimmick to run down whoever he faced(from a JTTS like AL Snow to the most respected man in the company in The Undertaker). I think either Sting wasn't familiar with The Rock's gimmick or he was being waaaayyyy too sensitive.still it was the comment the rock made. i get that the rock always said that but in reality it seemed more like the rock/wwe was trying to throw away booker's 25 year career in wcw. Quote
N'Jadaka Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 It wasn't any worse than what he said to chris Jericho when Jericho debuted. Quote
PridefulRoar2 Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 If someone is going to take a gimmick personal then its a good thing he didnt jump to WWE at the time, he probably would've walked out eventually Quote
Adm King Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 This year showcase seems dull...I played most of the matches in wwe '13 ...not at all excited for this mode Quote
best in the world Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likelyDon't forget DDP's awful run in wwe lolYeah they took the master of the Diamond Cutter & turned him into a joke. I was hyped about the Taker/DDP feud until I quickly realized he was gonna keep jobbing. The moment WWE set up a match between DDP vs Sara I knew he was doomed....yeah and ddp and booker were the 2 main reasons Sting said he didn't jump to wcw at first.Yeah I seen the video interview where Sting specifically referred to an instance where Booker T was on WWE TV & The Rock said "who are you?" & he saw that as unnecessary burying. Which is true & pretty much how all WCW & ECW talent got treated.yeah i think it goes back to an interview that bret hart did in wcw on the first thunder in 98. he told mike tenay that he is a former 5 time WWF Champion but since he was in wcw he figured he had to prove himself all over again. I'm not sure if that was a work, shoot, or worked shoot since it was during the bret/flair feud but it seems to me wwe thought that the wcw and ecw talent had to prove themselves all over again and i mean they buried buff, kanyon, mike awesome, etc it was sad lolI still think WCW did a better job with Bret than WWE did with most former WCW/ECW guys. Bret could've been used in a bigger role but at least he had some good matches during his time there, which is way more than the guys you listed ever got the opportunity to do. I agree with all on that list except Bagwell, I was actually agreeing & cheering when during the "invasion" where Angle threw him out the door and say "and stay out!"😆. I've always considered Bagwell mediocre at best & his stuff with his mother Judy in WCW was God awful. Judy Bagwell on a pole match? Thanks Russo for yet another brilliant storyline/match idea! Quote
the King Lives Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likelyDon't forget DDP's awful run in wwe lolYeah they took the master of the Diamond Cutter & turned him into a joke. I was hyped about the Taker/DDP feud until I quickly realized he was gonna keep jobbing. The moment WWE set up a match between DDP vs Sara I knew he was doomed....yeah and ddp and booker were the 2 main reasons Sting said he didn't jump to wcw at first.Yeah I seen the video interview where Sting specifically referred to an instance where Booker T was on WWE TV & The Rock said "who are you?" & he saw that as unnecessary burying. Which is true & pretty much how all WCW & ECW talent got treated.yeah i think it goes back to an interview that bret hart did in wcw on the first thunder in 98. he told mike tenay that he is a former 5 time WWF Champion but since he was in wcw he figured he had to prove himself all over again. I'm not sure if that was a work, shoot, or worked shoot since it was during the bret/flair feud but it seems to me wwe thought that the wcw and ecw talent had to prove themselves all over again and i mean they buried buff, kanyon, mike awesome, etc it was sad lolI still think WCW did a better job with Bret than WWE did with most former WCW/ECW guys. Bret could've been used in a bigger role but at least he had some good matches during his time there, which is way more than the guys you listed ever got the opportunity to do. I agree with all on that list except Bagwell, I was actually agreeing & cheering when during the "invasion" where Angle threw him out the door and say "and stay out!"😆. I've always considered Bagwell mediocre at best & his stuff with his mother Judy in WCW was God awful. Judy Bagwell on a pole match? Thanks Russo for yet another brilliant storyline/match idea!yeah with bret i loved everything till maybe late 99 lol Quote
best in the world Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 It's strange ECW only got one match, what you telling me Sandman said no?The WWE have always professionally despised James Fullington as a sportsman and as an entertainer, but they didn't hesitate to slap his gimmick on Steve Austin. Austin's gimmick could have been played by anyone. He just happened to be at the right place, at the right time and all the stars aligned. The reason Sandman was even employed was because of Paul E, but you'd never hear them referencing him. The Sandman was one of the most polarizing figures in the late 90s especially with the blind angle he did. But, the WWE will never recognize outside feats especially those which came from a basement indy promotion. Sandman will never get the credit he deserves, but the fans know where all the groundwork was laid and who started the shtick.The same is true for most talent established outside of WWE. Look at Goldberg; he was arguably one of the biggest organically produced WCW talent, regardless of what IWC fans today say about him. He was a major part of WCW's success along with the cruiser weight division. Aside from his initial debut in WWE, his whole WWE run was spent basically jobbing to WWE original talent & doing insignificant story lines instead of doing dream matches that both WCW & WWF had wanted to see for years. The same could be said of others like Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and many others. And yeah, I'm aware there are some who will laugh at guys like Steiner and Nash, but they were big names who made an impact in pro wrestling only to job for most of their last WWE runs. WWE has a history of misusing talents they didn't create. Guys like Booker, Jericho, Guerrero, & Mysterio eventually became champion, but not to the same degree as guys like Austin, Rock, Taker, or HHH and not nearly as many times for the amount of years they spent there.It's the same with ECW guys too. As for the Austin showcase, I was expecting a few more matches with the Hollywood Blondes & tag matches with Pillman, but I'm guessing the only match will be the Austin vs Pillman WWF stuff. It'd have been cool to see more ECW stuff too but not likelyDon't forget DDP's awful run in wwe lolYeah they took the master of the Diamond Cutter & turned him into a joke. I was hyped about the Taker/DDP feud until I quickly realized he was gonna keep jobbing. The moment WWE set up a match between DDP vs Sara I knew he was doomed....yeah and ddp and booker were the 2 main reasons Sting said he didn't jump to wcw at first.Yeah I seen the video interview where Sting specifically referred to an instance where Booker T was on WWE TV & The Rock said "who are you?" & he saw that as unnecessary burying. Which is true & pretty much how all WCW & ECW talent got treated.yeah i think it goes back to an interview that bret hart did in wcw on the first thunder in 98. he told mike tenay that he is a former 5 time WWF Champion but since he was in wcw he figured he had to prove himself all over again. I'm not sure if that was a work, shoot, or worked shoot since it was during the bret/flair feud but it seems to me wwe thought that the wcw and ecw talent had to prove themselves all over again and i mean they buried buff, kanyon, mike awesome, etc it was sad lolI still think WCW did a better job with Bret than WWE did with most former WCW/ECW guys. Bret could've been used in a bigger role but at least he had some good matches during his time there, which is way more than the guys you listed ever got the opportunity to do. I agree with all on that list except Bagwell, I was actually agreeing & cheering when during the "invasion" where Angle threw him out the door and say "and stay out!"😆. I've always considered Bagwell mediocre at best & his stuff with his mother Judy in WCW was God awful. Judy Bagwell on a pole match? Thanks Russo for yet another brilliant storyline/match idea!yeah with bret i loved everything till maybe late 99 lolI despised the formation of the NWO that had Bret, Jeff Jarrett, Hall, & Nash. If you look at it, that group consists of two original NWO members, a Ric Flair imatation, & a technical wrestler Canadian. Not exactly a fearsome group especially with Hall having major alcohol problems around that same time. Bret's WCW career up until then was fine except for WCW not really understanding how to use "The Hitman". I still remember Bret's epic 1999 match with Chris Benoit dedicated to Owen. Quite possibly the best WCW match he had during his whole time there. Quote
the King Lives Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 I despised the formation of the NWO that had Bret, Jeff Jarrett, Hall, & Nash. If you look at it, that group consists of two original NWO members, a Ric Flair imatation, & a technical wrestler Canadian. Not exactly a fearsome group especially with Hall having major alcohol problems around that same time. Bret's WCW career up until then was fine except for WCW not really understanding how to use "The Hitman". I still remember Bret's epic 1999 match with Chris Benoit dedicated to Owen. Quite possibly the best WCW match he had during his whole time there.yeah i hated that lol and yeah i loved the bret/benoit dedication match. that was quite possibly the best match period while he was there. I've always said this and i always get people roasting me over it, but i said that after hogan lost the title (well JJ Took the title) after starrcade 97 the nWo should have just slowly disbanded. Quote
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