The Jeff's Domain Opinion: WWE Games: The Good, Bad, and Ugly UPDA

[AgeofSandow]

no shit sherlock

[Sir Flash™]

Alright fellas knock it off . Anyhow, amazing post Jeff!! I did some edit to the first post to make it easier for others to read, just prettied it up. 

 

PS: I only do this to post that go above and beyond, GOOD JOB!

[the King Lives]

Alright fellas knock it off . Anyhow, amazing post Jeff!! I did some edit to the first post to make it easier for others to read, just prettied it up. 

 

PS: I only do this to post that go above and beyond, GOOD JOB!

Thanks, flash and no problem, took me about 3 1/2 hours to type it up on blogger. Was going to post images as well but i wasn't sure if hotlinking images was allowed or not.  I know some sites (caws.ws) are against it and i can understand why. At the end of the day i didn't want to start any kind of arguments but there will be more of these coming. Not just for Gaming but I plan on reviving my entire old Jeff's Domain opinion i had on my Wrestling website Jeff's Domain back in the late 90s. Only shut it down cause well i figured there wasn't a point after wcw got sold LOL. But yeah everything i said here i pretty much figured alot of people felt the same way.  I know that some have had problems with me but listening and writing have always been my strong points (in addition to math and science). I just really hope that 2K gets the memo.  Marcus promised to relay the message to the 2K Devs and I really hope so. Everything that's been wrong with this series since SVR11 has been the focus has just been in the wrong department. That is one reason I didn't mention the main story modes at all. 

 

I get that the main story has to have some focus but when you focus on showing content from the main story for 4 months (30YOWM/AEmode) and only 1-2 weeks of the Creation suite, it can really put a pretty foul taste in your mouth. I love the WWEGames Community not just smacktalks in general but the WWEGames Community Twitter, SDH, ST, even 2K forums and Caws forums. They are all great and have great ideas. We just have to find that balance to get everything tailored in these games.

 

Thanks again Flash!

[Sir Flash™]

Anytime man...

[Ralph_E_Fresh]

Ability to exit ring during Royal Rumble:

 

-Ability to exit ring from Royal Rumble by getting out as normal by going under top rope, or by Suicide dive.

 

-Wrestle outside of the ring during the Rumble,

 

-Ability to use the Announce table during Royal Rumble

 

-Ability to get weapons from under the ring during Royal Rumble via weapons wheel

 

-Ability to attack/interrupt next participant as they make their entrance down the ramp.

 

Ability to Free Roam:

 

-Ability to wrestle in crowd via all 4 sections

 

-Ability to go to parking lot, locker room, restaurant(like in Smackdown 2), lobby, GM room

 

-Ability to access this in any match without loading

 

-If Arena is bigger, then crowd is bigger and thus roaming area is bigger

 

Which brings me to:

Arena's should be bigger for Stadium's:

 

 

 

 

Wrestlemania 30 Arena should be extremely big, with alot of space.

 

2 vs 2 vs 2 matches with following match types for it:

 

2 vs 2 vs 2 normal

2 vs 2 vs 2 tornado

2 vs 2 vs 2 HIAC

2 vs 2 vs 2 Cage

2 vs 2 vs 2 Elimination Chamber

2 vs 2 vs 2 Ladder

2 vs 2 vs 2 Table

2 vs 2 vs 2 Elimination match

2 vs 2 vs 2 Tornado Elimination match

2 vs 2 vs 2 Tornado Table elimination

and 2 vs 2 vs 2 TLC match.

 

Also 5 vs 5 Survivor Series match

[Liu DelGôdõ™]

I like the sound of that. But with all those extras as far as arenas, they'd probably have to make it a 2 disc game like GTA 5 just to install most of it

[DaMitch]

Ability to exit ring during Royal Rumble:

-Ability to exit ring from Royal Rumble by getting out as normal by going under top rope, or by Suicide dive.

-Wrestle outside of the ring during the Rumble,

-Ability to use the Announce table during Royal Rumble

-Ability to get weapons from under the ring during Royal Rumble via weapons wheel

-Ability to attack/interrupt next participant as they make their entrance down the ramp.

Ability to Free Roam:

-Ability to wrestle in crowd via all 4 sections

-Ability to go to parking lot, locker room, restaurant(like in Smackdown 2), lobby, GM room

-Ability to access this in any match without loading

-If Arena is bigger, then crowd is bigger and thus roaming area is bigger

Which brings me to:

Arena's should be bigger for Stadium's:

Wrestlemania 30 Arena should be extremely big, with alot of space.

2 vs 2 vs 2 matches with following match types for it:

2 vs 2 vs 2 normal

2 vs 2 vs 2 tornado

2 vs 2 vs 2 HIAC

2 vs 2 vs 2 Cage

2 vs 2 vs 2 Elimination Chamber

2 vs 2 vs 2 Ladder

2 vs 2 vs 2 Table

2 vs 2 vs 2 Elimination match

2 vs 2 vs 2 Tornado Elimination match

2 vs 2 vs 2 Tornado Table elimination

and 2 vs 2 vs 2 TLC match.

Also 5 vs 5 Survivor Series match

I really don't see them putting that much effort into the games , if the game released every couple years like a GTA then its a possibility , but seems that they work on it just under a year the main focus will be on updating roster of superstars and the main story mode that will sell the game...

And i hate to say it but big franchises like these aren't indie devs that want to make the best game possible, there job is to make the most money possible...

Edited January 31, 2015 by Bo Dallas

[the King Lives]

 

Ability to exit ring during Royal Rumble:

-Ability to exit ring from Royal Rumble by getting out as normal by going under top rope, or by Suicide dive.

-Wrestle outside of the ring during the Rumble,

-Ability to use the Announce table during Royal Rumble

-Ability to get weapons from under the ring during Royal Rumble via weapons wheel

-Ability to attack/interrupt next participant as they make their entrance down the ramp.

Ability to Free Roam:

-Ability to wrestle in crowd via all 4 sections

-Ability to go to parking lot, locker room, restaurant(like in Smackdown 2), lobby, GM room

-Ability to access this in any match without loading

-If Arena is bigger, then crowd is bigger and thus roaming area is bigger

Which brings me to:

Arena's should be bigger for Stadium's:

Wrestlemania 30 Arena should be extremely big, with alot of space.

2 vs 2 vs 2 matches with following match types for it:

2 vs 2 vs 2 normal

2 vs 2 vs 2 tornado

2 vs 2 vs 2 HIAC

2 vs 2 vs 2 Cage

2 vs 2 vs 2 Elimination Chamber

2 vs 2 vs 2 Ladder

2 vs 2 vs 2 Table

2 vs 2 vs 2 Elimination match

2 vs 2 vs 2 Tornado Elimination match

2 vs 2 vs 2 Tornado Table elimination

and 2 vs 2 vs 2 TLC match.

Also 5 vs 5 Survivor Series match

I really don't see them putting that much effort into the games , if the game released every couple years like a GTA then its a possibility , but seems that they work on it just under a year the main focus will be on updating roster of superstars and the main story mode that will sell the game...

And i hate to say it but big franchises like these aren't indie devs that want to make the best game possible, there job is to make the most money possible...

 

someone tell Ralph e fresh to stay out of my thread. All he does is start trouble. He did it on the 2k forums he's obsessed with the royal rumble being a hardcore match

[the King Lives]

 

Ability to exit ring during Royal Rumble:

 

-Ability to exit ring from Royal Rumble by getting out as normal by going under top rope, or by Suicide dive.

 

-Wrestle outside of the ring during the Rumble,

 

-Ability to use the Announce table during Royal Rumble

 

-Ability to get weapons from under the ring during Royal Rumble via weapons wheel

 

-Ability to attack/interrupt next participant as they make their entrance down the ramp.

 

Ability to Free Roam:

 

-Ability to wrestle in crowd via all 4 sections

 

-Ability to go to parking lot, locker room, restaurant(like in Smackdown 2), lobby, GM room

 

-Ability to access this in any match without loading

 

-If Arena is bigger, then crowd is bigger and thus roaming area is bigger

 

Which brings me to:

Arena's should be bigger for Stadium's:

 

 

 

 

Wrestlemania 30 Arena should be extremely big, with alot of space.

 

2 vs 2 vs 2 matches with following match types for it:

 

2 vs 2 vs 2 normal

2 vs 2 vs 2 tornado

2 vs 2 vs 2 HIAC

2 vs 2 vs 2 Cage

2 vs 2 vs 2 Elimination Chamber

2 vs 2 vs 2 Ladder

2 vs 2 vs 2 Table

2 vs 2 vs 2 Elimination match

2 vs 2 vs 2 Tornado Elimination match

2 vs 2 vs 2 Tornado Table elimination

and 2 vs 2 vs 2 TLC match.

 

Also 5 vs 5 Survivor Series match

 

why don't you make your own thread. This was for comments only i don't want your ridiculous Royal rumble obsessions tarnishing my thread.

[Curb Stomper]

Why should anyone listen to your opinions or suggestions if you can't do the same?

[DaMitch]

Just saw this "feedback project " maybe you should post on there Jeff ?

http://forums.2k.com/forumdisplay.php?561-WWE-2K-2014-15-Feedback-Project

[mrjordanreece87]

Just saw this "feedback project " maybe you should post on there Jeff ?

http://forums.2k.com/forumdisplay.php?561-WWE-2K-2014-15-Feedback-Project

yeah jeff its worth a try they may read it or not but at least you can say u tried

[HarlotEffect]

Jeff you forgot losing the created Entrances and custom soundtrack. I need that Sabu and Sandman Entrance. 

[the King Lives]

 

Just saw this "feedback project " maybe you should post on there Jeff ?

http://forums.2k.com/forumdisplay.php?561-WWE-2K-2014-15-Feedback-Project

yeah jeff its worth a try they may read it or not but at least you can say u tried

 

I can't, jared banned me and several others for saying Eva Marie couldn't wrestle and was ugly as hell

[the King Lives]

Jeff you forgot losing the created Entrances and custom soundtrack. I need that Sabu and Sandman Entrance. 

could have sworn i put that in there. i know i put created entrances in there should be in the creation suite area

[the King Lives]

Why should anyone listen to your opinions or suggestions if you can't do the same?

it's a difference when he just stole the formatting from my initial post (that Flash took the time to do for me) if he had created his own stuff and not used my wording which he did, i wouldn't have had a problem with it.

[the King Lives]

@HarlotEffect, I updated my OP, Added Create an Entrance Improvements/returnings, Create a story and Create a finisher to the Creation Suite Section

[Walu (Inactive)]

I have nothing to add to this...or oh maybe:

1. Having an Anti-Bug staff, testing the game and informing the developers of severe bugs so they can be removed.

Edited February 1, 2015 by Walu

[the King Lives]

I have nothing to add to this...or oh maybe:

1. Having an Anti-Bug staff, testing the game and informing the developers of severe bugs so they can be removed.

yeah that sounds good. So you read my additions? Thanks for pointing them out

[EZY]

good post I agree with everything. I would like them to finally give us the option to assign managers or staple mates to wrestler's entrances. I would like some kind of control over the managers as well. I loved the staple cut scenes from the older smackdown games. Sorry if someone already mentioned this or if you did.

[Tyrant185]

A major issue right now is lack of content, whilst lack of depth in what we have is another (and has been for at least a good 7-8 years now).

I've posted this over at the 2K forums, but matches like the Royal Rumble, the Elimination Chamber, Hell in a Cell, and Falls Count Anywhere are in need of a serious overhaul. The match mechanics all need redone, with new mini-games in there, entrances that show the superstars entering the structure, and just an all-round better presentation within each match.

Whilst a general selection of camera angles is needed, the Rumble should also have a double feature so that we can see the in-ring action, as well as entrances at the same time. The Rumble should let us go outside for weapons or a breather as freely as we please, perform our rope/turnbuckle grappling moves freely, and change the regular time intervals between entrants (30 seconds, 1 minute, 90 seconds, 2 minutes). In addition to this, it should be harder to eliminate people via the mini-games (overalls should be tied in so that it's harder for Santino to eliminate a fresh Cena for example). More people in the ring is a must in this day and age as well. RAW on the SNES had a post-match stats page for every entrant in the match, which should be added to the series.

The Chamber and the HIAC should have structure-specific entrance motions for the 'In-Ring' and 'Ring' sections, with a few superstar-specific motions for the likes of the top stars who taunt in there. Better presentation is also needed, particularly in the Chamber when it's time for somebody to be released from their pod. Have the lights dim, the birds-eye view with the 4 names in the corner, followed by a cut-scene of the selected superstar being released from their pod. New structure-specific mini-games for both matches, and the time interval option for the Chamber are also needed.

Falls Count Anywhere I think we can say we're all in the same boat. Connected backstage areas and areas to fight through the crowd (even accessing backstage from the crowd too) are a must. Extensive interactivity within each environment is a highly-requested feature also. In my opinion there should be 4 different areas of the crowd to fight in, which are accessed via each corner of the security barricade around the ring. These could consist of:

- The area in the top right corner from 2007-2008 with the scaffold and the exit doors leading to the back
- The bottom-right corner where Ambrose/Rollins took their fight at SummerSlam
- The bottom-left area, leading up to the pyro equipment by the stage
- The top-left area, leading up the stairs of the crowd and back to the concessions (Much like Undertaker and Maven in RR2002)

Each one of these areas could be connected to the backstage areas, as well as going backstage through the gorilla position at the top of the ramp.

Bit of an essay forming here so I'll quit while I'm ahead lol

EDIT: Not trying to hijack your thread or anything. I liked your ideas, just thought I'd share some of my own.

Edited February 2, 2015 by Tyrant185

[the King Lives]

A major issue right now is lack of content, whilst lack of depth in what we have is another (and has been for at least a good 7-8 years now).

I've posted this over at the 2K forums, but matches like the Royal Rumble, the Elimination Chamber, Hell in a Cell, and Falls Count Anywhere are in need of a serious overhaul. The match mechanics all need redone, with new mini-games in there, entrances that show the superstars entering the structure, and just an all-round better presentation within each match.

Whilst a general selection of camera angles is needed, the Rumble should also have a double feature so that we can see the in-ring action, as well as entrances at the same time. The Rumble should let us go outside for weapons or a breather as freely as we please, perform our rope/turnbuckle grappling moves freely, and change the regular time intervals between entrants (30 seconds, 1 minute, 90 seconds, 2 minutes). In addition to this, it should be harder to eliminate people via the mini-games (overalls should be tied in so that it's harder for Santino to eliminate a fresh Cena for example). More people in the ring is a must in this day and age as well. RAW on the SNES had a post-match stats page for every entrant in the match, which should be added to the series.

The Chamber and the HIAC should have structure-specific entrance motions for the 'In-Ring' and 'Ring' sections, with a few superstar-specific motions for the likes of the top stars who taunt in there. Better presentation is also needed, particularly in the Chamber when it's time for somebody to be released from their pod. Have the lights dim, the birds-eye view with the 4 names in the corner, followed by a cut-scene of the selected superstar being released from their pod. New structure-specific mini-games for both matches, and the time interval option for the Chamber are also needed.

Falls Count Anywhere I think we can say we're all in the same boat. Connected backstage areas and areas to fight through the crowd (even accessing backstage from the crowd too) are a must. Extensive interactivity within each environment is a highly-requested feature also. In my opinion there should be 4 different areas of the crowd to fight in, which are accessed via each corner of the security barricade around the ring. These could consist of:

- The area in the top right corner from 2007-2008 with the scaffold and the exit doors leading to the back

- The bottom-right corner where Ambrose/Rollins took their fight at SummerSlam

- The bottom-left area, leading up to the pyro equipment by the stage

- The top-left area, leading up the stairs of the crowd and back to the concessions (Much like Undertaker and Maven in RR2002)

Each one of these areas could be connected to the backstage areas, as well as going backstage through the gorilla position at the top of the ramp.

Bit of an essay forming here so I'll quit while I'm ahead lol

EDIT: Not trying to hijack your thread or anything. I liked your ideas, just thought I'd share some of my own.

that's cool man, i like all of them If you don't mind i'll add them to my next blog post and of course give you credit.

I went off ralph because he loves to take people's stuff and edit in his stuff.  If he had just done his own post with out editing into my OP then i wouldn't have had a problem (also he's obsessed with hardcore only fca royal rumble matches LOL)

 

I really liked your idea of the EC and HIAC Matches especially the entrances. they def need an overhaul. I mentioned doing the EC Entrances by having the pods and grate/around the mat and having the cell itsef suspended above the ring during entrances but i actually like your ideas better! :Cool

[the King Lives]

good post I agree with everything. I would like them to finally give us the option to assign managers or staple mates to wrestler's entrances. I would like some kind of control over the managers as well. I loved the staple cut scenes from the older smackdown games. Sorry if someone already mentioned this or if you did.

no it's fine and thanks for the suggestion i totally didn't think about it lol

[Tyrant185]

 

A major issue right now is lack of content, whilst lack of depth in what we have is another (and has been for at least a good 7-8 years now).

I've posted this over at the 2K forums, but matches like the Royal Rumble, the Elimination Chamber, Hell in a Cell, and Falls Count Anywhere are in need of a serious overhaul. The match mechanics all need redone, with new mini-games in there, entrances that show the superstars entering the structure, and just an all-round better presentation within each match.

Whilst a general selection of camera angles is needed, the Rumble should also have a double feature so that we can see the in-ring action, as well as entrances at the same time. The Rumble should let us go outside for weapons or a breather as freely as we please, perform our rope/turnbuckle grappling moves freely, and change the regular time intervals between entrants (30 seconds, 1 minute, 90 seconds, 2 minutes). In addition to this, it should be harder to eliminate people via the mini-games (overalls should be tied in so that it's harder for Santino to eliminate a fresh Cena for example). More people in the ring is a must in this day and age as well. RAW on the SNES had a post-match stats page for every entrant in the match, which should be added to the series.

The Chamber and the HIAC should have structure-specific entrance motions for the 'In-Ring' and 'Ring' sections, with a few superstar-specific motions for the likes of the top stars who taunt in there. Better presentation is also needed, particularly in the Chamber when it's time for somebody to be released from their pod. Have the lights dim, the birds-eye view with the 4 names in the corner, followed by a cut-scene of the selected superstar being released from their pod. New structure-specific mini-games for both matches, and the time interval option for the Chamber are also needed.

Falls Count Anywhere I think we can say we're all in the same boat. Connected backstage areas and areas to fight through the crowd (even accessing backstage from the crowd too) are a must. Extensive interactivity within each environment is a highly-requested feature also. In my opinion there should be 4 different areas of the crowd to fight in, which are accessed via each corner of the security barricade around the ring. These could consist of:

- The area in the top right corner from 2007-2008 with the scaffold and the exit doors leading to the back

- The bottom-right corner where Ambrose/Rollins took their fight at SummerSlam

- The bottom-left area, leading up to the pyro equipment by the stage

- The top-left area, leading up the stairs of the crowd and back to the concessions (Much like Undertaker and Maven in RR2002)

Each one of these areas could be connected to the backstage areas, as well as going backstage through the gorilla position at the top of the ramp.

Bit of an essay forming here so I'll quit while I'm ahead lol

EDIT: Not trying to hijack your thread or anything. I liked your ideas, just thought I'd share some of my own.

that's cool man, i like all of them If you don't mind i'll add them to my next blog post and of course give you credit.

I went off ralph because he loves to take people's stuff and edit in his stuff.  If he had just done his own post with out editing into my OP then i wouldn't have had a problem (also he's obsessed with hardcore only fca royal rumble matches LOL)

 

I really liked your idea of the EC and HIAC Matches especially the entrances. they def need an overhaul. I mentioned doing the EC Entrances by having the pods and grate/around the mat and having the cell itsef suspended above the ring during entrances but i actually like your ideas better! :Cool

 

Awesome. I have no problem with you adding any of it to your blog posts at all, whatever we can all do to make the game better. Thanks bud.

[AgeofSandow]

not really a mode but creators in the game(moves/CAWs) should work with the developers to make the next game's modes and have input on what to add or change.