Why some people say that WWE 2k15 should not get a release on PC?

[Jenwcw]

Why most of the console users hate PC gamers?They say that PC users are annoying and they will never get a WWE game in PC.I know that some of the PC users are annoying but same goes with console users.

There has been no WWE game on PC for 8 years.If WWE 2k15 gets a release on PC then the creation suite will be more better than before. Newarenas,costumes,superstar packs and many stuff and 2k have confirmed the PC version but 2k has not really given latest info about PC version.I hope it does n't like SvR online which was announced for PC but never got a release .

Hating someone who plays their favourite game on other platorm is a silly thing.I would be happy if WWE 2k15 comes on PC.

Edited November 11, 2014 by Jenwcw

[Titavius]

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Why most of the console users hate PC gamers?They say that PC users are annoying and they will never get a WWE game in PC.I know that some of the PC users are annoying but same goes with console users.

There has been no WWE game on PC for 8 years.If WWE 2k15 gets a release on PC then the creation suite will be more better than before. Newarenas,costumes,superstar packs and many stuff and 2k have confirmed the PC version but 2k has not really given latest info about PC version.I hope it does n't like SvR online which was announced for PC but never got a release .

Hating someone who plays their favourite game on other platorm is a silly thing.I would be happy if WWE 2k15 comes on PC.

 

doesn't bother me. it'll be great, until every tom, dick and harry on the planet starts modding. then nobody shows any gratitude, everybody benefits off of somebody elses hard work, work gets stolen, modding tools get hacked, exploited and shared all over the internet, and people will continue to do this because it will become incredibly easy for them to do so. this has happened to so many games before, to the point where it just isn't fun anymore. the WWE modding community at the moment is great, because there's order and respect amongst its members. people know there place, and it's great spending time there. i just think when/if the WWE PC modding scene blows up, it'll be chaos.    

[Jenwcw]

doesn't bother me. it'll be great, until every tom, dick and harry on the planet starts modding. then nobody shows any gratitude, everybody benefits off of somebody elses hard work, work gets stolen, modding tools get hacked, exploited and shared all over the internet, and people will continue to do this because it will become incredibly easy for them to do so. this has happened to so many games before, to the point where it just isn't fun anymore. the WWE modding community at the moment is great, because there's order and respect amongst its members. people know there place, and it's great spending time there. i just think when/if the WWE PC modding scene blows up, it'll be chaos.

The last WWE PC game was wwe raw 2008 total edition .There are endless mods of that game but I think modding WWE 2k15 will be hard and time taking .

[El Buvor]

The last WWE PC game was wwe raw 2008 total edition .There are endless mods of that game but I think modding WWE 2k15 will be hard and time taking .

 

The last WWE PC game was WWE Raw (which was an Xbox WWF Raw game port). WWE Raw 2008 Total Edition is a mod.

 

Also I believe that getting WWE2k15 on PC is a great thing, no more JTAG/RGH shit and that's, for me, a very great thing. Having a JTAG/RGH don't mean that you are correct (I remember a mod pack made when WWE12/13 were around, a mod pack made by some assholes with everybody work without any credit, someone who is on this forum if I can remember). Not having a JTAG/RGH don't mean that you are an horrible person who is going to steal everything etc... Releasing the game on PC is good to attract new talented modders etc...

Edited November 11, 2014 by El Buvor

[Red Rooster]

I will definitely be moving to modding the PC version eventually. Even if the PC WWE modding community does end up being a mess I will just make my own mods and share them with people I like/trust.

[XHP Original]

i just think when/if the WWE PC modding scene blows up, it'll be chaos.    

 

I agree. Like you said, there's a bit of a feeling of exclusivity, and think that'll be gone, if and when every Tom, Dick and Harry starts modding the game. I also think there's gonna be a bit of a n00b invasion.

 

On the bright side, like El Buvor said, It'll at least bring in some new talented modders..

 

I will definitely be moving to modding the PC version eventually. Even if the PC WWE modding community does end up being a mess I will just make my own mods and share them with people I like/trust.

 

Nice idea man. I think even though there might be some chaos, it don't mean everybody has to be part of it.

 

Can already see Smiss releasing a pack of stolen PC Mods.. 4 dA PeOpLeZ..

 

 

 

[Titavius]

I guess I'm just enjoying the exclusivity at the moment as it's a very welcome change for me. I used to mod Far Cry on PC back in the day. I spent far too much time on my mods, and it got to the point where you could Google search them, and find links to them on forums I'd never been. People had made videos and everything, and these people were swearing blind that they weren't my mods. Every modder knows his work, you only have to go to the modding section here to see that.

 

So yeah, I became a little bummed out and left that all behind. I know that a new WWE game on PC is something that I could really invest my time into, I'm just a little put off by past experiences, because the one thing I've learnt, is that people on the internet can be ruthless and simply do not give a shit how much time and effort you've truly put into something. The current WWE modding scene is without doubt the exception. 

[Red Rooster]

I think you just have to resign your self to the fact that your work will get stolen and move on. I make mods for me, to make my game better, not for credit or accolades. If someone else wants to try to steal my thunder then fine, let them.

 

I'll still know I made it.

[XHP Original]

I think you just have to resign your self to the fact that your work will get stolen and move on. I make mods for me, to make my game better, not for credit or accolades. If someone else wants to try to steal my thunder then fine, let them.

 

I'll still know I made it.

 

Yeah, I suppose, I mean it's not like they earning money or anything from stealing mods..

 

But I can still see someone's anger in their mods getting stolen, stealing is stealing I guess, but at the end of the day you take that risk when you post anything on the internet..

 

So yeah, I see your point..

[thebib62]

I don't think WWE 2k15 is coming for PC anymore.

I've checked GameFAQs, and it's not even listed on there for a PC release. 

 

Edited November 12, 2014 by thebib62

[Red Rooster]

It hasnt been officially announced yet, of course its not going to be listed on GameFAQs 

[mrblacksheep]

I think it's because modders can add things into can that is missing fom the console versions. Dont really know why but to each their own. I love checking out the mods some people can do with these games or any game for that matter.

[RichieL1991]

I never understood modders who get upset about people stealing their work if they don't take the precautions to prevent it from happening. If you just upload mod tools for games to any random website of course people are going to use it and not think twice about sharing it. They don't know the hard work put into it and the creativity behind it. I do not encourage this at all, I'm a huge supporter of intellectual property laws.

 

However just take a look at one of the most successful modding communities, MVPmods (for MVP Basbeball 2005). First of all you have to pay to be able to download the good mods, and second they make it a HUGE point for members not to "share" any mods that are accessible by download on the site. Doing so would get you banned. Besides, someone who paid to download these Mods is less likely to give them out to someone else who has not yet paid. My favorite thing of all is if a modder is no longer active in the community they take down all his/her work. If you want it you have to find them and ask them personally. I'm not saying they're perfect, but if there was WWE 2K15 PC Modding community based on MVPmods, things would be in great shape for both modders and memebers (imo). 

[Red Rooster]

 

I never understood modders who get upset about people stealing their work if they don't take the precautions to prevent it from happening. If you just upload mod tools for games to any random website of course people are going to use it and not think twice about sharing it. They don't know the hard work put into it and the creativity behind it. I do not encourage this at all, I'm a huge supporter of intellectual property laws.

 

However just take a look at one of the most successful modding communities, MVPmods (for MVP Basbeball 2005). First of all you have to pay to be able to download the good mods, and second they make it a HUGE point for members not to "share" any mods that are accessible by download on the site. Doing so would get you banned. Besides, someone who paid to download these Mods is less likely to give them out to someone else who has not yet paid. My favorite thing of all is if a modder is no longer active in the community they take down all his/her work. If you want it you have to find them and ask them personally. I'm not saying they're perfect, but if there was WWE 2K15 PC Modding community based on MVPmods, things would be in great shape for both modders and memebers (imo). 

 

What's hard to understand? Unless you only privately release download links to your mods, they are public access which openly means they are able to used by anybody. Sure you can say 'You are not allowed to re-use this work', but that isn't going to stop them, it happened back in the day of No Mercy / WWF Raw modding and it will happen even worser today.

 

Having people pay for them is edgy and I'm sure there is some kind of legality issue with that - that also goes against the true nature of modding, modding has always been a network of social interaction within a community to share openly their modifications in an attempt to make each other happy / have end-user entertainment. The best example I can give of how bad the PC release would do to a community like Smacktalks is OSR (Old Skool Reunion), it's a barrage of mod theft and ugly MS Paint changes with broken English sentences in the posts. Keeping the WWE games on Console limits the amount of goof-balls you get like that, because 9 times out of 10, those people have illegally downloaded the game and have zero appreciation for the game and the community of modders who put a lot of hard work into their work.

 

I stopped reading at worser.... if you are trying to make a point it is probably best to use words that exist in the english language

[gamingsinceatari]

I think you just have to resign your self to the fact that your work will get stolen and move on. I make mods for me, to make my game better, not for credit or accolades. If someone else wants to try to steal my thunder then fine, let them.

 

I'll still know I made it.

 

Totally agree.

[jcsix]

 

 

I never understood modders who get upset about people stealing their work if they don't take the precautions to prevent it from happening. If you just upload mod tools for games to any random website of course people are going to use it and not think twice about sharing it. They don't know the hard work put into it and the creativity behind it. I do not encourage this at all, I'm a huge supporter of intellectual property laws.

 

However just take a look at one of the most successful modding communities, MVPmods (for MVP Basbeball 2005). First of all you have to pay to be able to download the good mods, and second they make it a HUGE point for members not to "share" any mods that are accessible by download on the site. Doing so would get you banned. Besides, someone who paid to download these Mods is less likely to give them out to someone else who has not yet paid. My favorite thing of all is if a modder is no longer active in the community they take down all his/her work. If you want it you have to find them and ask them personally. I'm not saying they're perfect, but if there was WWE 2K15 PC Modding community based on MVPmods, things would be in great shape for both modders and memebers (imo). 

 

What's hard to understand? Unless you only privately release download links to your mods, they are public access which openly means they are able to used by anybody. Sure you can say 'You are not allowed to re-use this work', but that isn't going to stop them, it happened back in the day of No Mercy / WWF Raw modding and it will happen even worser today.

 

Having people pay for them is edgy and I'm sure there is some kind of legality issue with that - that also goes against the true nature of modding, modding has always been a network of social interaction within a community to share openly their modifications in an attempt to make each other happy / have end-user entertainment. The best example I can give of how bad the PC release would do to a community like Smacktalks is OSR (Old Skool Reunion), it's a barrage of mod theft and ugly MS Paint changes with broken English sentences in the posts. Keeping the WWE games on Console limits the amount of goof-balls you get like that, because 9 times out of 10, those people have illegally downloaded the game and have zero appreciation for the game and the community of modders who put a lot of hard work into their work.

 

I stopped reading at worser.... if you are trying to make a point it is probably best to use words that exist in the english language

 

Its a word regularly used in the north of England so you can't just cut it out suddenly. Its not like his whole post is full of it like others where it doesn't even make sense. 

Edited November 13, 2014 by jcsix

[Red Rooster]

I thought the English invented the English language so I figured they would know how to use it. Just because you have heard uneducated people say it, doesnt mean it qualifies as a word.

[Red Rooster]

You were colonised by the English..... ok enough of me being a grammar nazi, back to the original topic

[Titavius]

I can't understand how some of you are saying that having your work stolen is just a repercussion of trusting people online, and that if your work is stolen, you should just keep your chin up, and move on.

 

You can only really appraise that scenario through experience, and if any of you have ever committed to something, have put time and effort into something that you have then shared with a select group or forum that you trust, to then have that trust abused, can be very discouraging and quite humiliating.

 

I'd never tell anybody in that situation to "move on", or that "these things happen", because it's very condescending, especially if you're a modder yourself.

 

all I was trying to say in my original post, is that i'll stick with console modding for the time being, as it's a welcome change for me. if I ever decide to mod the game on PC, it'll probably be in private.    

Edited November 13, 2014 by Titan83

[jcsix]

I'm the same as you Titan. I'v seen it happen for years to mine and other peoples work and it sucks. Especially with all the hard work that goes into making anything. Its why when I used to mod No Mercy, I just sent it to a small handful of people, or even just start modding in AKI style.

 

Heck, its just not modding games that I'v seen it in, also in pixel art too. Its sadly always going to happen and the only way to "fix" it it to send it to people you trust

[XHP Original]

Like I said, I see the reason for a modder to get upset over their work being stolen, and I agree.

 

But at the same time, there is and always will be that possibility. You can maybe decrease the chances of it getting stolen by only sharing it with people you trust and/or charging for it, but it's still unfortunately never going guarantee it.. that's just the way it is, in my opinion.

[Auday]

hmmmmm

[Titavius]

hmmmmm

 

he's obviously just a massive troll lol

[Red Rooster]

I can't understand how some of you are saying that having your work stolen is just a repercussion of trusting people online, and that if your work is stolen, you should just keep your chin up, and move on.

 

You can only really appraise that scenario through experience, and if any of you have ever committed to something, have put time and effort into something that you have then shared with a select group or forum that you trust, to then have that trust abused, can be very discouraging and quite humiliating.

 

I'd never tell anybody in that situation to "move on", or that "these things happen", because it's very condescending, especially if you're a modder yourself.

 

all I was trying to say in my original post, is that i'll stick with console modding for the time being, as it's a welcome change for me. if I ever decide to mod the game on PC, it'll probably be in private.    

Im not saying you have to like it, and Im not specifically telling someone whos work has been stolen to "move on". I dont agree with people stealing mods at all and I have been very vocal about people on this forum who didnt give credit or stole mods but you have to accept that its a possibility before you commit to making and releasing mods.

 

Creating a situation where you make people pay for mods or only release them to specific people is not ideal and ruins the idea of a community. I like what we have going here at Smacktalks and would hate to see the demise of it but I can only see the possibilities offered by a PC version as a good thing.  What people choose to do with it is beyond my control so I see no point in getting upset about it.

[thebib62]

When is this "PC version" supposed to come out anyways?