New Subsection (Please God)

[Titavius]

Short and sweet. We need a subsection here in the modding area for people who post textures only. It's getting f*cking beyond a joke now. We need a better structure, a way to categorize the types of modding people do.  

 

Some would argue that editing textures in photoshop isn't modding at all. I dunno, I'm on the fence. I guess any old retard can come here and start posting edited textures. A lot of people are posting stolen textures, some of them don't own a jail broken console, and they're passing themselves off as modders and pissing a lot of hard working people off. 

 

Somebody for the love of god, create a subsection for Modified Textures. Keep them well away from the physical mods. Call it the "retard zone" for all I care! Let's get this done

 

[Codes.]

I would be all for adding a section for only tutorials. I feel it would reduce the clutter.

[Titavius]

i was thinking similar to the way the creations section works, you can choose to view the xbox or the ps3 creations. under 'mods', we need 'texture mods' and then the main 'mods' page is where we post physical mods containing 3D object files for people with jail broken consoles. 

 

i guess 'texture mods' and '3D mods'.. i dunno

Edited September 24, 2014 by Titan83

[OverTheEdge]

While I get what you mean, let's not get too high and mighty here. Only until a few months ago, earlier in the year, before Tekken released X-Rey, all anyone was capable of doing was texture mods. I know there's been a lot of issues around this section lately--and I'm all for resolving those--but everyone starts somewhere and looking down on people who are trying, and more importantly contributing, isn't the right way to go.

[Titavius]

While I get what you mean, let's not get too high and mighty here. Only until a few months ago, earlier in the year, before Tekken released X-Rey, all anyone was capable of doing was texture mods. I know there's been a lot of issues around this section lately--and I'm all for resolving those--but everyone starts somewhere and looking down on people who are trying, and more importantly contributing, isn't the right way to go.

 

I don't think i'm looking down on anyone. I shouldn't call anybody a retard, but I guess all I'm saying is that I think we should draw a line between what is a mod, and what probably isn't. The stealing, and the lying and the disrespect from a select few who are limited in what they can do, I think should be made separate. We should start to see a subsidence. My opinion, obviously I don't have the power to make those decisions, so it'll be what it will be  

Edited September 24, 2014 by Titan83

[OverTheEdge]

 

While I get what you mean, let's not get too high and mighty here. Only until a few months ago, earlier in the year, before Tekken released X-Rey, all anyone was capable of doing was texture mods. I know there's been a lot of issues around this section lately--and I'm all for resolving those--but everyone starts somewhere and looking down on people who are trying, and more importantly contributing, isn't the right way to go.

 

I don't think i'm looking down on anyone. I shouldn't call anybody a retard, but I guess all I'm saying is that I think we should draw a line between what is a mod, and what probably isn't. The stealing, and the lying and the disrespect from a select few who are limited in what they can do, I think should be made separate. We should start to see a subsidence. My opinion, obviously I don't have the power to make those decisions, so it'll be what it will be

 

 

I'm with you there. In an ideal scenario, we wouldn't be dealing with that stuff at all. Though, even if there were more specific sections, that wouldn't necessarily put a stop to that. As far as the sections itself goes, that's nothing I have the power to make anyway.

[Ollie™]

I know atm I'm a texture modder but still, I'd be up for this, though I'd be afraid everyone would clump the genuine texture modders with the ones who steal. 

[phoenix66]

@Titan83

I thought that editing textures to create alternate attires to existing models was a good way to start getting used to changing the game to our liking.

Especially if adding textures of previous games could, on one hand, add a variety. On the other hand I thought it a good way to have a first look into the structure of the files.

For myself, I startet this way a long while ago. With the new possibilities of X-Rey and Topogun of course there is a whole new level to it. And yes, I want to try that for myself. And I`m very confident, I`ll be able to get some decent model changes out of it.

So I thought, hey, let`s get onto the next level, so to speak.

 

Then I read your posts about how there should be a difference in the forums for modders and retards.

I don`t know if you ever considered me in the "retard-section" or maybe you even don`t care who I am.

 

I`m with you as far as the "stealing-is-a-bad-thing" goes. And a subsection for texture editing would be okay with me.

I`m not at the level I could call myself a real "modder". And yes, I will rename my thread to not resemble a "modding thread" to not get any one confused what to expect.

So putting my thread into the "texture" subsection would be fine.

 

But as far as your arguments go, for me, it sounds like, that in your oppinion the likes of me are not worthy of being here.

And that makes me very sad.

[Titavius]

@Titan83

I thought that editing textures to create alternate attires to existing models was a good way to start getting used to changing the game to our liking.

Especially if adding textures of previous games could, on one hand, add a variety. On the other hand I thought it a good way to have a first look into the structure of the files.

For myself, I startet this way a long while ago. With the new possibilities of X-Rey and Topogun of course there is a whole new level to it. And yes, I want to try that for myself. And I`m very confident, I`ll be able to get some decent model changes out of it.

So I thought, hey, let`s get onto the next level, so to speak.

 

Then I read your posts about how there should be a difference in the forums for modders and retards.

I don`t know if you ever considered me in the "retard-section" or maybe you even don`t care who I am.

 

I`m with you as far as the "stealing-is-a-bad-thing" goes. And a subsection for texture editing would be okay with me.

I`m not at the level I could call myself a real "modder". And yes, I will rename my thread to not resemble a "modding thread" to not get any one confused what to expect.

So putting my thread into the "texture" subsection would be fine.

 

But as far as your arguments go, for me, it sounds like, that in your oppinion the likes of me are not worthy of being here.

And that makes me very sad.

 

nah man, I'm not talking about adding texture mods to your game, I'm talking about people who create textures and have no way to import them. they create textures, they pm people asking them to test them, and half the time, they're stolen anyway.

 

I think maybe I suggested this in haste. I guess we'll see what happens.  

[phoenix66]

 

@Titan83

I thought that editing textures to create alternate attires to existing models was a good way to start getting used to changing the game to our liking.

Especially if adding textures of previous games could, on one hand, add a variety. On the other hand I thought it a good way to have a first look into the structure of the files.

For myself, I startet this way a long while ago. With the new possibilities of X-Rey and Topogun of course there is a whole new level to it. And yes, I want to try that for myself. And I`m very confident, I`ll be able to get some decent model changes out of it.

So I thought, hey, let`s get onto the next level, so to speak.

 

Then I read your posts about how there should be a difference in the forums for modders and retards.

I don`t know if you ever considered me in the "retard-section" or maybe you even don`t care who I am.

 

I`m with you as far as the "stealing-is-a-bad-thing" goes. And a subsection for texture editing would be okay with me.

I`m not at the level I could call myself a real "modder". And yes, I will rename my thread to not resemble a "modding thread" to not get any one confused what to expect.

So putting my thread into the "texture" subsection would be fine.

 

But as far as your arguments go, for me, it sounds like, that in your oppinion the likes of me are not worthy of being here.

And that makes me very sad.

 

nah man, I'm not talking about adding texture mods to your game, I'm talking about people who create textures and have no way to import them. they create textures, they pm people asking them to test them, and half the time, they're stolen anyway.

 

I think maybe I suggested this in haste. I guess we'll see what happens.  

 

Sorry, than I got you all wrong.

Cheers

[jcsix]

If any modding community slowly becomes more popular, theirs no doubt that there will be some sorts of stealing or people making stuff even if they can't use them. But sadly it seems that wrestling specific modding communities are the worst for this. I have no idea why but for all the modding communities I'm involved in, wrestling ones are by far the worse.

 

Sadly its hard to just have one solution to sort this problem out. NMZ closed registrations for a period but sadly that would be the worst thing to do here as modding is just a section and not the whole board are doing it. Maybe a "new" section is good, but instead of limiting it to people who cannot use them in their game, why not for new people in general. This is just because even if they can't use their work in-game, they may have experience in modding other games which could see them "promoted".

 

Password protecting the modding section could be done with the section above, then they get a password when people feel their ready? I'm just thinking of ways to help it before it goes way out of hand like other communities. 

 

Or even a post limit. I'd be really sad to another whole community suffer from just a few people.

[tekken57]

I get where you're coming from but I think we're letting a select few ruin the sense of community we have built here.

There are two sides to the coin, on the one hand it's good that we get new people wanting to mod. Even if they don't have jtag's the mods they make can benefit the community at large. I was coding 360 support into xpacker and doing texture mods for the 360 a full year before I managed to get a jtag. My Hollywood hogan was one of the first texture mods injected into the 360 version of the game.

On the flip side, stealing others work without giving credit is bad. Also persistently nagging other experienced modders to test mods or flooding thier mailboxes with noob questions is annoying. Hence my sig.

The question is how to we get these new modders to play well with others?

Strict guidelines for using others work is one, of. If not followed and warnings ignored, then ban the user. Requests for testing mods or noob questions should be posted in the help section. I have started ignoring and delete these pm's without responding.

That being said, it is also up the new modders to take the intiative to read tutorials and familiarize themselves with the concepts of modding the game. There are plenty of resources and tutorials both on this site as well as my site.

At the end of the day, the more modders we have the better.

[rub3945]

I think this is a great idea and I like where jcsix is coming from. Say that we go ahead with the idea, to start with I would probably fit in the new section since I've only been around here for a couple months. I accept my responsibilities and what I've done here so far. All I'm saying is that I'm all for the new modding section...

[IamCrazyPT]

I the wrestling news forum, after create a new thread, the thread is sent to as moderator and only then if the moderator aproves it, the thread is posted. We could do the same thing here.

[Twistedmisery666™]

I don't see why ppl edits someone's work then ask one of us if we can test it lol,makes no sense at all lol.

[Titavius]

I the wrestling news forum, after create a new thread, the thread is sent to as moderator and only then if the moderator aproves it, the thread is posted. We could do the same thing here.

 

i like that idea. certain people could be added to a privelage list so that their threads don't need to be aproved. but others will have to have theirs looked at first 

Edited September 25, 2014 by Titan83

[bugsyboy]

A textures/ logos/ resources section could be good.

They could preview their textures for modders to use and get credit for it.

We could put resources like the WWF mags there also.

Textures previewing shouldn't be with the mods.