CM Punk suing WWE over 2K15

[Fozy]

Judders, get out the warn points, he's not heeding your advice!

[Auday]

Right let's get this straight now.

Auday, you started this stupid argument with Beast with you CAPS LOCK swearing. If you don't want to see his posts, please add him to your ignore list. Consider this a verbal warning.

Beast, you bit. Your reaction isn't acceptable, so consider this a verbal as you were baited.

Everyone else that chimed in, stop being so childish and adding to the unnecessary drama.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

(Anything else on this is liable to be deleted and a warning point possibly issued.)

Didnt read this, anyway he keeps being an asshole to mainly everyone on the forum and he keeps annoying us with his legends shit, I mean who dosent like legends but he is annoying a lot of us, we got the mode on 13, we need something new....,

Also I thought he was banned after insulting a lot of people days ago.

[DrJoeyMagnum]

No I went to a live event like 7 years ago.

Was Samoa Joe the World Champion?

[Auday]

Judders, get out the warn points, he's not heeding your advice!

I didn't see it, I was on page 3 and didn't read judders's post.

And shut up and leave it to mods, don't worry they can take actions without you telling them.

[DrJoeyMagnum]

 

Judders, get out the warn points, he's not heeding your advice!

I didn't see it, I was on page 3 and didn't read judders's post.

And shut up and leave it to mods, don't worry they can take actions without you telling them.

 

He is a Mod

[mrelectriccity]

actually they can own ya likeness like they can own ya name for ex: John Cena thats his real name but Vince McMahon owns the name John Cena so if they was to have any falling out or whatever, he would have to legally change his name if not Vince could get a piece of anything he does. I remember hearing him talk about in an interview before a while back if im not mistaken it might be the one with him on the Howard Stern Show

 

another thing is Punk was already locked into the game before he even left the company

Edited September 4, 2014 by mrelectriccity

[DrJoeyMagnum]

actually they can own ya likeness like they can own ya name for ex: John Cena thats his real name but Vince McMahon owns the name John Cena so if they was to have any falling out or whatever, he would have to legally change his name if not Vince could get a piece of anything he does. I remember hearing him talk about in an interview before a while back if im not mistaken it might be the one with him on the Howard Stern Show

 

another thing is Punk was already locked into the game before he even left the company

no just no 

[Guest Stingertap10]

So the whine fest ends:
 

Punk stated himself that he had a concussion and staph infection that WWE made him work through (Unsafe work environment). They messed with his PPV bonus check in lieu of the Network broadcasting all PPVs (Breach of contract should WWE have been contractually obligated to giving those out). They acted in detriment to the character he helped create (There's a real legal term for it. Bigshow used it in the storyline where he was to sue the Authority), and sold merchandise with his likeness/related terminology/related images without proper compensation (Again, breach of contract). Again, no matter how anyone feels, he has a solid legal basis to sue on. More than likely, it's why WWE hasn't tried to sue him for BOC. Same as Warrior in 96. Just like Sting, Warrior, Hogan, Piper, and few others, Punk own his likeness, character, and related logos/images/ect.. Hence why he was CM Punk BEFORE WWE, and could remain so afterwards. He licenses out those things for WWE to use. 

 

As far as the game goes, I don't think he's suing because they're using him without his permission, I think he's suing, more than likely, because A: To make sure WWE pays him for it, using the past 4 months of no royalties as cause for concern, or B: He had a deal that they agreed to pay upfront (WWE. No one makes it in the game without WWE's say), and they haven't. I don't know. If it were anything 2K related, THEY'D have been served with papers. As far as I know/have read, 2K/Parent Company isn't named as a plaintiff in the case. Just WWE.  

 

I really don't believe that he wasn't scanned, and I don't believe they'd take him out of it this late in he game (Pun intended). Things should be at the point where the next stage is printing discs for shipment. I also don't believe that they'd have used that feud if he didn't consent in the first place. Superstars/Divas do have the option of turning down appearing in the game. I'm interested in when 2K started the scanning process for Superstars. If it's prior to January 2014, I call B.S. if the model comes out looking less than stunning like the others. Then that's WWE's FU to Punk.

[The 4th Doctor]

 

actually they can own ya likeness like they can own ya name for ex: John Cena thats his real name but Vince McMahon owns the name John Cena so if they was to have any falling out or whatever, he would have to legally change his name if not Vince could get a piece of anything he does. I remember hearing him talk about in an interview before a while back if im not mistaken it might be the one with him on the Howard Stern Show

 

another thing is Punk was already locked into the game before he even left the company

no just no 

 

Agreed Vince can't own anyone's Legal Birthname That is just stupid. (So if he does own the John Cena name why doesn't he make money off John's dad who is John Cena Sr.)

Edited September 4, 2014 by The 4th Doctor

[huh]

 

 

 

Is Is Real Name CM Punk? No.

Is He With Wrestling Company? No.

WWE Own The Name.

Any Other Actual Reason For The Sue?

Don't spout bullshit without doing any studying please. He owns the name. His merchandise was getting sold and he wasn't getting any royalties. Same with this game, his name and character that he owns is getting milked for money and he isn't getting any in return. He has every right to sue.

 

just like he had every right to breach his contract and abruptly leave the company who've given him a steady income for the last 8 years of his life? didn't even quit or come to an agreement to leave, just left and expected to still get paid because he owns his shitty name. gtfoh

 

source: the internet.

 

and your source is? oh yeah wait the internet

[mrelectriccity]

 

 

actually they can own ya likeness like they can own ya name for ex: John Cena thats his real name but Vince McMahon owns the name John Cena so if they was to have any falling out or whatever, he would have to legally change his name if not Vince could get a piece of anything he does. I remember hearing him talk about in an interview before a while back if im not mistaken it might be the one with him on the Howard Stern Show

 

another thing is Punk was already locked into the game before he even left the company

no just no 

 

Agreed Vince can't own anyone's Legal Birthname That is just stupid. (So if he does own the John Cena name why doesn't he make money off John's dad who is John Cena Sr.)

 

its called Intellectual Property its around the 4 min mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvT6-ubccLY

[AKz Effect]

The title to that vid

[FrickinAwesome]

The title to that vid

Those caws. 

[Raddad88]

Intelectual property isn't a lifetime deal, he doesn't own the name John Cena FOREVER. It's a contract, a contract that expires. 

Also, intellectual property can't just be the name, it's the name in the sense of a creation or character. Cena could easily defend that while he's using the name John Cena, it is not the same character that was portrayed on WWE TV, meaning Vince doesn't own it. 



 

Edited September 5, 2014 by sam8madness

[DrJoeyMagnum]

Intelectual property isn't a lifetime deal, he doesn't own the name John Cena FOREVER. It's a contract, a contract that expires. 

Also, intellectual property can't just be the name, it's the name in the sense of a creation or character. Cena could easily defend that while he's using the name John Cena, it is not the same character that was portrayed on WWE TV, meaning Vince doesn't own it. 

 

this 

 

There's a reason why WWE usually renamed every talent they sign it's so when/if they get big WWE owns the trademark 

[McLeod]

I kept watching past the 4 minute mark only to stop when John Cena admitted to fucking his fan girls on the road; you don't fuck your fan girls.

[King87]

I kept watching past the 4 minute mark only to stop when John Cena admitted to fucking his fan girls on the road; you don't fuck your fan girls.

Lol yes u do. I didn't think cena had it in him tbh. And i think punk may have a case against wwe but 2k has nothing to do with this at all. These games are made what every year. So if it wasn't just about sticking it to vince the case should of been filed as soon as 2k approached him. Paul heyman said on scsa podcast punk was saying he's done way before he actually took his ball and went home. So he can't be suing wwe over 2k15 when he was already aware of the game and his likeness being used

[DrJoeyMagnum]

 

I kept watching past the 4 minute mark only to stop when John Cena admitted to fucking his fan girls on the road; you don't fuck your fan girls.

Lol yes u do. I didn't think cena had it in him tbh. And i think punk may have a case against wwe but 2k has nothing to do with this at all. These games are made what every year. So if it wasn't just about sticking it to vince the case should of been filed as soon as 2k approached him. Paul heyman said on scsa podcast punk was saying he's done way before he actually took his ball and went home. So he can't be suing wwe over 2k15 when he was already aware of the game and his likeness being used

 

he can if he isn't getting paid

[King87]

I kept watching past the 4 minute mark only to stop when John Cena admitted to fucking his fan girls on the road; you don't fuck your fan girls.

Lol yes u do. I didn't think cena had it in him tbh. And i think punk may have a case against wwe but 2k has nothing to do with this at all. These games are made what every year. So if it wasn't just about sticking it to vince the case should of been filed as soon as 2k approached him. Paul heyman said on scsa podcast punk was saying he's done way before he actually took his ball and went home. So he can't be suing wwe over 2k15 when he was already aware of the game and his likeness being used

he can if he isn't getting paid

If he breached his contact you don't get paid. Stone cold did the same thing back in the day as punk. He did not get paid while he was gone and he also appeared in the wwe games idk but probably without pay too. Im not saying im right or your wrong im just stating the same scenario has happened before

[McLeod]

Celebrity 101: You don't fuck your fans; it's easy and dirty. When you're a celebrity, you can only fuck someone who isn't a huge fan or another celebrity.

[Fozy]

 

 

 

I kept watching past the 4 minute mark only to stop when John Cena admitted to fucking his fan girls on the road; you don't fuck your fan girls.

Lol yes u do. I didn't think cena had it in him tbh. And i think punk may have a case against wwe but 2k has nothing to do with this at all. These games are made what every year. So if it wasn't just about sticking it to vince the case should of been filed as soon as 2k approached him. Paul heyman said on scsa podcast punk was saying he's done way before he actually took his ball and went home. So he can't be suing wwe over 2k15 when he was already aware of the game and his likeness being used

he can if he isn't getting paid

If he breached his contact you don't get paid. Stone cold did the same thing back in the day as punk. He did not get paid while he was gone and he also appeared in the wwe games idk but probably without pay too. Im not saying im right or your wrong im just stating the same scenario has happened before

 

Stop thinking his wrestling contract is the same as his royalty payments.

[DrJoeyMagnum]

 

 

 

I kept watching past the 4 minute mark only to stop when John Cena admitted to fucking his fan girls on the road; you don't fuck your fan girls.

Lol yes u do. I didn't think cena had it in him tbh. And i think punk may have a case against wwe but 2k has nothing to do with this at all. These games are made what every year. So if it wasn't just about sticking it to vince the case should of been filed as soon as 2k approached him. Paul heyman said on scsa podcast punk was saying he's done way before he actually took his ball and went home. So he can't be suing wwe over 2k15 when he was already aware of the game and his likeness being used

he can if he isn't getting paid

If he breached his contact you don't get paid. Stone cold did the same thing back in the day as punk. He did not get paid while he was gone and he also appeared in the wwe games idk but probably without pay too. Im not saying im right or your wrong im just stating the same scenario has happened before

 

He didn't get his downside but Austin probably got merchandise royalty payments 

[King87]

I kept watching past the 4 minute mark only to stop when John Cena admitted to fucking his fan girls on the road; you don't fuck your fan girls.

Lol yes u do. I didn't think cena had it in him tbh. And i think punk may have a case against wwe but 2k has nothing to do with this at all. These games are made what every year. So if it wasn't just about sticking it to vince the case should of been filed as soon as 2k approached him. Paul heyman said on scsa podcast punk was saying he's done way before he actually took his ball and went home. So he can't be suing wwe over 2k15 when he was already aware of the game and his likeness being used

he can if he isn't getting paid

If he breached his contact you don't get paid. Stone cold did the same thing back in the day as punk. He did not get paid while he was gone and he also appeared in the wwe games idk but probably without pay too. Im not saying im right or your wrong im just stating the same scenario has happened before

Stop thinking his wrestling contract is the same as his royalty payments.

Not thinking that. But im pretty sure every contract comes back to including wwe in some way and their claim in court will be you breached your contract breaking written and signed agreements and im willing to bet if contracts is broken whoever broke it will get the shit end of the stick.

[DrJoeyMagnum]

nope the wrestlers are independent contractors so if they do a austin/punk and leave, they don't get paid (expect the merch royalties) 

[Judders]

My two pence/cents.

CM Punk while under contract to WWE permits them to use his name and likeness on merchandise/video games. He is compensated for this through royalties paid at a percentage shared between him and the company. The fact he had a contract with WWE at the time the game was being made, meant he was included. This was the right of WWE and 2K to do so. He would then have been paid royalties for his appearance.

The way he left the company while not ideal, will not allow WWE to use his name and likeness without compensating him. While he was under contract I suspect they were able to withhold payment due to him being in breach. Now that he is not a part of WWE and under no contract to them, WWE must pay him for using him in the game.

The argument saying otherwise is silly.