Ability to exit ring & wrestle outside during Royal Rumble match.

[Ralph_E_Fresh]

I posted this on the 2K forums -> http://forums.2k.com/showthread.php?676161-Ability-to-exit-ring-amp-wrestle-outside-during-Royal-Rumble-match

 

Note Please read before you post with a disagreement, if you disagree with the ability to exit the ring & wrestle outside during the Royal Rumble match, then when you reply, please, answer the following question --> if 2K prohibited you from exiting the ring in a Singles match, would you be ok with that? and tell us why.

 

In Royal Rumble match's the only way a participant can be eliminated is if they are thrown over the top rope with both feet landing on the floor. very rudimentary rules.

 

Now, in the past there have been wrestlers who have went under the top rope and have remained in the match/are not eliminated, as going under the top rope does not count as an elimination.

 

It would work the same as a regular match, where you could get objects from under the ring, bring the objects in the ring during the Royal Rumble and break the announce table(s), as long as you exit under the top rope, you remain in the match.

 

We should be able to:

 

- exit ring under top rope during Royal Rumble, 

 

-get objects from under the ring and use them, 

 

-interact with announce table(s), 

 

-walk to entrance ramp and interact with those entering the Royal Rumble when they come out of the Titantron.

 

-Have interference from someone not in the Royal Rumble(So if there's a Heel who hates a Face, and the Heel is not in the Royal Rumble, a Heel can interfere and attempt to cost you the match)

 

We should have this feature, without a doubt current gen can accomplish it.

 

Here's how it should go,

 

Online: Either A, Don't have the ability to go outside the ring under the top rope in Royal Rumble matches in Online Play or B, Have it with specific settings,

 

If B then you have the following features for online:

 

-You have a limit of 3 , you can only leave up the Royal Rumble under the top rope up to 3 times during the Royal Rumble

 

-You have a time limit, where if someone stays outside the ring they are disqualified.

 

-Button mash to get outside and stay outside. 

 

-Button mash to get play inside the ring

 

-Have the option to turn off the ability to leave the ring during the Royal Rumble.

 

 

So even if it affects Online(Which it doesn't as shown above), there's no reason to not have it offline, 

 

For Offline:

 

- If you stay outside the ring too long, an AI player(s) in the Rumble ring comes out to get you(where you wrestle outside and the AI attempts to bring you back in the ring, you can counter their attempts to force you in the ring so they can eliminate you, making the game more fun.)

 

-If you stay outside the ring too long, the next participant entering the titantron will interact with you, where they wrestle you and attempt to get you in the ring.

 

-You can interact with everything as you do in regular matches, you can break the barricade, break the announce table(s), go to the ramp, go to the titantron, go into the crowd(hopefully they add this feature)

 

-You can interact and wrestle the next entrant while they're making their entrance/coming down the ramp/coming out of the titantron.

 

-If you go Under the top rope and on the top rope you can dive into announce table without being eliminated.

 

-Can have all objects under ring including tables, ladders, etc.

 

-Can do an outside dive during rumble and not be eliminated.

 

Added 8/13/14, 

 

If you disagree, then by all means tell me what the problem is with being able to leave ring for unlimited amount of time/whenever you want?

 

Let me guess, "people will spam, stay out of the ring the entire match"

 

Rebuttal(in case you make that argument) = AI/CPU players come after you, whether it's the next participant, or someone in the ring. you can wrestle the AI, but they will attempt to get you back in the ring. 

 

So if there's for example, Daniel Bryan, John Cena, and Randy Orton, and you're Randy Orton and decide to go outside the ring. 

 

The following will happen: 

 

- Daniel Bryan and John Cena wrestle, Daniel Bryan knocks down Cena, then comes after you.

 

- Daniel Bryan and John Cena wrestle, Daniel Bryan eliminates Cena, then comes after you.

 

-Daniel Bryan and John Cena wrestle, while Seth Rollins enters the rumble, before entering the ring, Rollins(AI) will attempt to get you back in the ring.

 

So there's no way you can spam, and there's no way you can "stay out of the ring the entire match"

 

Also the following Disadvantageous things will happen if you leave the ring:

 

-AI comes after you, will attempt to wrestle you and put you back in the ring, this can cause you to be eliminated as you get damage, and are thrown in the ring laying down.

 

- As you attempt to get back in the ring, the AI attacks you while you enter, making it easier to eliminate you.

 

So there's more chances to spam by running around inside the ring, then leaving the ring, because if you try to get back in, you can be attacked and the eliminated.

 

There is therefore no reason to not have this in the game, it would be fun to do outside dives, get objects, break the announce table and be able to interact with the next entering superstar during the Rumble.

 

should be unlimited, lets see what happens when you only have a limited amount of time via the following methods:

 

1, You lose stamina by going outside Method = defeats the purpose of going outside as you're only hurting yourself losing stamina, And the AI comes after you, which is not fair play Conclusion: Doesn't Work.

 

2,You only get to stay outside via button mashing, Time Limit, and You could only leave up to 3 times Method =  Tedious, can interrupt outside interactions, so a time limit & button mashing can never work, having only 3 times to leave is not sim like, doesn't prevent spamming and defeats the purpose, add that with the fact that by definition of a Royal Rumble you can leave the ring whenever you want and stay how long you want(unless someone gets you), Conclusion: Doesn't Work

 

3, Use 1-3 Finishers to go outside Method = Unfair, everyone should be able to go outside, wouldn't be fair to the fresh participant with no finishers, and it also defeats the purpose of a Royal Rumble where by definition you can leave when you want. Conclusion: Doesn't Work

 

Now lets see what happens when you have an Unlimited amount of time:

 

*You can leave the ring as many times as you want for as long as you want with AI targeting you Method = 

 

- Fair, Why?(I'm using this to show that I'm not merely asserting anything), because you everyone can do it and you cannot spam it because the AI comes after you.

 

-You cannot spam it as the AI will come after you, either the AI player coming out of the Titantron or an AI player(s, Plural) in the ring.

 

-Stamina prevents you from running away from the AI too much.

 

-You can do outside dives during the Rumble

 

- You can get objects

 

- You can interact with the next entrant coming out of the titantron.

 

- You can interact with the announce table and do a flying elbow, So long as you go on the apron or on top ring post without going inside the ring

 

-The Object of the match is to win, so even if there's two human players left, they'll have to get back in the ring to eliminate their opponent

 

Conclusion: It Works.

 

The only thing that should be limited is a Save from being eliminated, for example Kofi Kingston,

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BTpNp13pX4

 

So saves should be limited by Finisher, however, Leaving the ring willingly by exiting Under the Top Rope? Unlimited, should be able to do it whenever you want.

Edited August 14, 2014 by Ralph_E_Fresh

[ichiban Rooster]

you could do this in raw 2, would be cool but its watevs 

[scott13587]

One thing I do think would be a new ability, given to the likes of Kofi for 'dramatic escapes', as like an add on of the RR Mini Game, add a Dramatic Escape minigame as a way of keeping you in the Rumble.

I can take or leave fighting outside the ring in the rumble, would be cool if it was featured but for how often I play a Rumble it's not necessary.

[GameElite™]

Would be cool if you had a finisher stored then you could do a dramatic ring escape if you were being pushed out.

[Big Phil]

"Now, in the past there have been wrestlers who have went under the top rope and have remained in the match/are not eliminated, as going under the top rope does not count as an elimination."

 

This ^ 

 

Sums up the Miz in one sentence...   

[DaMitch]

if you want this in the game all you have to do is .... BOLIEVE

 

(takes victory lap)

[Miz_fit]

Doubt this would happen...

[the King Lives]

look dude you lost this argument on the 2k forums.. we don't need you spammin 15 pages of rage just cause you don't get to be able to exit the damn ring.. GET A CLUE... oh and DEAL WITH IT

[the King Lives]

"Now, in the past there have been wrestlers who have went under the top rope and have remained in the match/are not eliminated, as going under the top rope does not count as an elimination."

 

This ^ 

 

Sums up the Miz in one sentence...   

 

it's only happened 6 times over a period of 29 years or whatever..

[Tamer™]

look dude you lost this argument on the 2k forums.. we don't need you spammin 15 pages of rage just cause you don't get to be able to exit the damn ring.. GET A CLUE... oh and DEAL WITH IT

Still, you can't deny that it would be nice.

[Fozy]

I think for a gameplay aspect it causes issues. Most likely why it hasn't been added to the game. Can't see what it really adds to the game, when it happens on TV it's usually for a story. Like others have said it'll just be people hanging outside to avoid elimination.

Only way this would work if it was some sort of mini game. Where you would escape from a throw out attempt and do a kofi and getting back in. Could be a sort of QTE type mini game where you have to accurately do the correct buttons to stay off the ground and to eventually get back into the ring.

[the King Lives]

 

look dude you lost this argument on the 2k forums.. we don't need you spammin 15 pages of rage just cause you don't get to be able to exit the damn ring.. GET A CLUE... oh and DEAL WITH IT

Still, you can't deny that it would be nice.

 

maybe, but you didn't have to sit through his 100 posts on the subject.  Everyone was giving him reasons as to why it wasn't in and then he went on to say that if you couldn't do this it wouldn't be a legit rumble.. matter fact, he went on to say that the game wasn't a true wrestling sim JUST cause he couldn't exit the bottom rope in the rumble.  That's the point i'm making.  And he got real agitated and pissed off cause what people were telling him was the truth

[the King Lives]

I think for a gameplay aspect it causes issues. Most likely why it hasn't been added to the game. Can't see what it really adds to the game, when it happens on TV it's usually for a story. Like others have said it'll just be people hanging outside to avoid elimination.

Only way this would work if it was some sort of mini game. Where you would escape from a throw out attempt and do a kofi and getting back in. Could be a sort of QTE type mini game where you have to accurately do the correct buttons to stay off the ground and to eventually get back into the ring.

he actually wanted to be able to be out the ring for 10 minutes... sometimes a rumble doesn't even last 10 minutes in a wrestling game LOL

[Fozy]

look dude you lost this argument on the 2k forums.. we don't need you spammin 15 pages of rage just cause you don't get to be able to exit the damn ring.. GET A CLUE... oh and DEAL WITH IT

Still, you can't deny that it would be nice.

maybe, but you didn't have to sit through his 100 posts on the subject. Everyone was giving him reasons as to why it wasn't in and then he went on to say that if you couldn't do this it wouldn't be a legit rumble.. matter fact, he went on to say that the game wasn't a true wrestling sim JUST cause he couldn't exit the bottom rope in the rumble. That's the point i'm making. And he got real agitated and pissed off cause what people were telling him was the truth

Sounds familiar...

[Fozy]

I think for a gameplay aspect it causes issues. Most likely why it hasn't been added to the game. Can't see what it really adds to the game, when it happens on TV it's usually for a story. Like others have said it'll just be people hanging outside to avoid elimination.

Only way this would work if it was some sort of mini game. Where you would escape from a throw out attempt and do a kofi and getting back in. Could be a sort of QTE type mini game where you have to accurately do the correct buttons to stay off the ground and to eventually get back into the ring.

he actually wanted to be able to be out the ring for 10 minutes... sometimes a rumble doesn't even last 10 minutes in a wrestling game LOL

Its a good question though. Just because his idea to address this doesn't work out doesn't mean he should be called out for asking for improvements.

[fufu ÷]

Meh, it'd get abused unless there was some kind of time limit to it, and limited uses. Like maybe if you had 3 finishers you can exit for 60 seconds. There are probably ways it could work.

[the King Lives]

 

 

I think for a gameplay aspect it causes issues. Most likely why it hasn't been added to the game. Can't see what it really adds to the game, when it happens on TV it's usually for a story. Like others have said it'll just be people hanging outside to avoid elimination.

Only way this would work if it was some sort of mini game. Where you would escape from a throw out attempt and do a kofi and getting back in. Could be a sort of QTE type mini game where you have to accurately do the correct buttons to stay off the ground and to eventually get back into the ring.

he actually wanted to be able to be out the ring for 10 minutes... sometimes a rumble doesn't even last 10 minutes in a wrestling game LOL

Its a good question though. Just because his idea to address this doesn't work out doesn't mean he should be called out for asking for improvements.

 

not when it becomes repetitive to the point where he's saying the same thing over and over again.  Plus it's only happened 6 times in the last 27 or so rumbles (kofi doesn't count since that's always been an elimination attempt)

[Big Phil]

 

"Now, in the past there have been wrestlers who have went under the top rope and have remained in the match/are not eliminated, as going under the top rope does not count as an elimination."

 

This ^ 

 

Sums up the Miz in one sentence...   

 

it's only happened 6 times over a period of 29 years or whatever..

 

I'm still new to this whole "sarcasm" thing

[Miz_fit]

What you're all forgetting is on line mode. If this idea gets onto the game, playing royal rumble on line will be terrible, people will make matches so fustrating

Edited August 14, 2014 by ForeverInOurShadow

[the King Lives]

 

 

"Now, in the past there have been wrestlers who have went under the top rope and have remained in the match/are not eliminated, as going under the top rope does not count as an elimination."

 

This ^ 

 

Sums up the Miz in one sentence...   

 

it's only happened 6 times over a period of 29 years or whatever..

 

I'm still new to this whole "sarcasm" thing

 

 

that wasn't sarcasm my friend that was truth.  It's only happened 6 times

What you're all forgetting is on line mode. If this idea gets onto the game, playing royal rumble on line will be terrible, people will make matches so fustrating

your point really doesn't make sense.  1st. Online doesn't even have the rumble match anymore so that's kind of a mute point.  Secondly so offline players should suffer because online sucks? NO THANK YOU.. either way, exiting from the rumble does not make it a sim match to me.

 

but what you're forgetting is the last time you ONLINE PLAYERS complained about stuff happening online we ended up having 1000 moves removed.. stop trying to limit offline because you can't use your brain to play people that you know instead of 4 year old strangers

[Miz_fit]

 

 

 

"Now, in the past there have been wrestlers who have went under the top rope and have remained in the match/are not eliminated, as going under the top rope does not count as an elimination."

 

This ^ 

 

Sums up the Miz in one sentence...   

 

it's only happened 6 times over a period of 29 years or whatever..

 

I'm still new to this whole "sarcasm" thing

 

 

that wasn't sarcasm my friend that was truth.  It's only happened 6 times

What you're all forgetting is on line mode. If this idea gets onto the game, playing royal rumble on line will be terrible, people will make matches so fustrating

your point really doesn't make sense.  1st. Online doesn't even have the rumble match anymore so that's kind of a mute point.  Secondly so offline players should suffer because online sucks? NO THANK YOU.. either way, exiting from the rumble does not make it a sim match to me.

 

but what you're forgetting is the last time you ONLINE PLAYERS complained about stuff happening online we ended up having 1000 moves removed.. stop trying to limit offline because you can't use your brain to play people that you know instead of 4 year old strangers

What?! I could of sworn it was still on this years game. And your point is invalid, I'm not limiting anything, I want online to be good, but if this idea did come, then it would annoy loads of people.

Edited August 14, 2014 by ForeverInOurShadow

[Tamer™]

 

What?! I could of sworn it was still on this years game

 

Nope, it was in fact removed.

[Miz_fit]

 

 

What?! I could of sworn it was still on this years game

 

Nope, it was in fact removed.

 

Why?

[the King Lives]

 

 

 

What?! I could of sworn it was still on this years game

 

Nope, it was in fact removed.

 

Why?

 

why else does thq remove stuff? because people complain about cheaters online lol

[Miz_fit]

@Jeffsdomain

How would cheating appear in a Royal Rumble? I didn't play it online BTW