Ideal Legends in WWE 2K15

[best in the world]

@AgeofSandow:  Yeah, that's what I meant.  ABA Taker was real life and not some cartoon character, all due respect to the whole "dead man" gimmick.  Taker showed tons of charisma and personality whereas phenom Taker only said very little.  It worked and I'm surprised so many people seem to hate on the ABA gimmick. 

 

As for NXT, I have given it a shot.  I don't entirely hate it, but it definitely isn't as big a deal as most make of it.  There are talented people there, no doubt.  However, they are generic most of them with awful ring names and they don't have larger than life presence.  Just my view.  So putting that in the game as a mode doesn't appeal to me.  If it does to others, fine.  Just being honest.  I'd say for fans of NXT, one pack should be DLC for all NXT with arenas, talents, etc.  Leave the specialty modes for the real stars.
 

[Tamer™]

@RatedRLionTamer:  Daniel Bryan may have been exposed to WWE fans on NXT, but his real exposure to casual fans wasn't until he debuted alongside the Nexus.  So once again, an inaccurate representation.  As much as you claim some fans are tired of legends, there are equally as many who have long since stopped watching the WWE product.  Why?  Because WWE cannot make new stars.  And by "stars", I mean real personalities and not cookie cutter generic jobbers that WWE produces in NXT these days.  All I see when I watch NXT are talents happy with mediocrity and talents not being real.  Therein lies the fault in wanting NXT to be used in a mode.  No casual gamers will pay for a game with no name jobbers in a themed mode.  All the major gaming outlets praised both WWE '13 and 2K14 for the nostalgic themes they used.  Ever wondered why?  It was a better time in wrestling and one which we'll probably never see the likes of again.

 

Nope, he got his first big exposure on NXT. They even played footage of his NXT work and fans were already behind him. As for them not being able to make stars, Bray Wyatt is the best heel on the roster right now, that's saying something when Triple H and Kane are on the roster. As for these game outlet reviews, WWE2K14 got a 6/10 from Gamespot. 6/10.

[AgeofSandow]

 

@RatedRLionTamer:  Daniel Bryan may have been exposed to WWE fans on NXT, but his real exposure to casual fans wasn't until he debuted alongside the Nexus.  So once again, an inaccurate representation.  As much as you claim some fans are tired of legends, there are equally as many who have long since stopped watching the WWE product.  Why?  Because WWE cannot make new stars.  And by "stars", I mean real personalities and not cookie cutter generic jobbers that WWE produces in NXT these days.  All I see when I watch NXT are talents happy with mediocrity and talents not being real.  Therein lies the fault in wanting NXT to be used in a mode.  No casual gamers will pay for a game with no name jobbers in a themed mode.  All the major gaming outlets praised both WWE '13 and 2K14 for the nostalgic themes they used.  Ever wondered why?  It was a better time in wrestling and one which we'll probably never see the likes of again.

 

Nope, he got his first big exposure on NXT. They even played footage of his NXT work and fans were already behind him. As for them not being able to make stars, Bray Wyatt is the best heel on the roster right now, that's saying something when Triple H and Kane are on the roster. As for these game outlet reviews, WWE2K14 got a 6/10 from Gamespot. 6/10.

 

Can we stop this NXT vs legends argument please? The best way for everyone is a compromise.

[Tamer™]

 

 

@RatedRLionTamer:  Daniel Bryan may have been exposed to WWE fans on NXT, but his real exposure to casual fans wasn't until he debuted alongside the Nexus.  So once again, an inaccurate representation.  As much as you claim some fans are tired of legends, there are equally as many who have long since stopped watching the WWE product.  Why?  Because WWE cannot make new stars.  And by "stars", I mean real personalities and not cookie cutter generic jobbers that WWE produces in NXT these days.  All I see when I watch NXT are talents happy with mediocrity and talents not being real.  Therein lies the fault in wanting NXT to be used in a mode.  No casual gamers will pay for a game with no name jobbers in a themed mode.  All the major gaming outlets praised both WWE '13 and 2K14 for the nostalgic themes they used.  Ever wondered why?  It was a better time in wrestling and one which we'll probably never see the likes of again.

 

Nope, he got his first big exposure on NXT. They even played footage of his NXT work and fans were already behind him. As for them not being able to make stars, Bray Wyatt is the best heel on the roster right now, that's saying something when Triple H and Kane are on the roster. As for these game outlet reviews, WWE2K14 got a 6/10 from Gamespot. 6/10.

 

Can we stop this NXT vs legends argument please? The best way for everyone is a compromise.

 

That's the thing though, in the end the selfish legend lovers get their nostalgia modes and the rest of us have to stick with a glitched up universe mode along with a story mode that doesn't even work. We've made compromises for 2 years now, and now it's their turn to do the same.

[frankchris2969]

 

 

 

@RatedRLionTamer:  Daniel Bryan may have been exposed to WWE fans on NXT, but his real exposure to casual fans wasn't until he debuted alongside the Nexus.  So once again, an inaccurate representation.  As much as you claim some fans are tired of legends, there are equally as many who have long since stopped watching the WWE product.  Why?  Because WWE cannot make new stars.  And by "stars", I mean real personalities and not cookie cutter generic jobbers that WWE produces in NXT these days.  All I see when I watch NXT are talents happy with mediocrity and talents not being real.  Therein lies the fault in wanting NXT to be used in a mode.  No casual gamers will pay for a game with no name jobbers in a themed mode.  All the major gaming outlets praised both WWE '13 and 2K14 for the nostalgic themes they used.  Ever wondered why?  It was a better time in wrestling and one which we'll probably never see the likes of again.

 

Nope, he got his first big exposure on NXT. They even played footage of his NXT work and fans were already behind him. As for them not being able to make stars, Bray Wyatt is the best heel on the roster right now, that's saying something when Triple H and Kane are on the roster. As for these game outlet reviews, WWE2K14 got a 6/10 from Gamespot. 6/10.

 

Can we stop this NXT vs legends argument please? The best way for everyone is a compromise.

 

That's the thing though, in the end the selfish legend lovers get their nostalgia modes and the rest of us have to stick with a glitched up universe mode along with a story mode that doesn't even work. We've made compromises for 2 years now, and now it's their turn to do the same.

 

 

Are you delusional? Seriously whether you or anyone else likes it or not there HAS to be legends and legend modes in these games. 50% of consumers enjoy legends stuff. 2K/ WWE Games are NOT going to release a current roster only game. Legends make money so therefore you will almost always see a small or near half amount of legends in these games.

[Tamer™]

I never said I didn't want any legends, stick about 10 of the main ones in there and let us have a good current roster as this is getting ridiculous.

Edited July 7, 2014 by RatedRLionTamer™

[Browncoat Alex]

Austin, Rock, Shawn Michaels, Edge, Eddie Guerrero, Undertaker, Flair, Jericho, Randy Savage and Hogan. To be honest these are the only legends I care about. Universe mode has been near unplayable since it's inception despite the fact that it's the meat of the game. It's broken and it should be fixed over a new legends mode. A career mode similar to the recent UFC game would also be pretty cool.

[AgeofSandow]

Austin, Rock, Shawn Michaels, Edge, Eddie Guerrero, Undertaker, Flair, Jericho, Randy Savage and Hogan. To be honest these are the only legends I care about. Universe mode has been near unplayable since it's inception despite the fact that it's the meat of the game. It's broken and it should be fixed over a new legends mode. A career mode similar to the recent UFC game would also be pretty cool.

Career mode where you are a wrestler and you can rise to the top or fail. You can be main event one moment then something screws it up, like a backstage issue or a injury... you can choose how you want to play, dirty or clean. It ends when you are too old to work anymore, and the game gives you your status, legendary or forgotten. This could be really cool, especially if you can choose anyone in the game already.

[Tamer™]

^^^ Those dreams will never happen as long as people say "I want WCW Mode!"

[frankchris2969]

I never said I didn't want any legends, stick about 10 of the main ones in there and let us have a good current roster as this is getting ridiculous.

 

You need more than just 10. Lol. At least 30-35 in my opinion. I would take legends ANYDAY over green NXT wrestlers. Again just my opinion but I am sure some would agree with me. Maybe not on this board as young folks appear to be significant on this board but I am sure there are a few old timers here like me (30-40 years old).

 

Ideally,

 

I would prefer 40 current stars, 35 legends (golden era, attitude era and ruthless aggression) and 15 NXT stars. We got a huge roster if I remember right in wwe`12 or wwe`13. If WWE2K15 is being pushed to the limit on xbox360/ps3 this year then they SHOULD shoot for a 90-100+ roster

Edited July 7, 2014 by frankchris2969

[Tamer™]

30-35? At best I'd expect 25 of those legends to be DLC to at least make it fair to people who want more current guys, then everybody wins. We get our current guys free + the 10 main legends and NXT, then the legend fans take the DLC.

[frankchris2969]

30-35? At best I'd expect 25 of those legends to be DLC to at least make it fair to people who want more current guys, then everybody wins. We get our current guys free + the 10 main legends and NXT, then the legend fans take the DLC.

 

 

Sounds great! That could work. It`s like a previous poster mentioned earlier in this thread............compromise.  Also hopefully they give us enough (perhaps more than we usually get, enough to merit a very large and rather noticeable sizeable addition) of CAW parts and moves ........also a significantly upgraded addition of more superstar heads.

Edited July 7, 2014 by frankchris2969

[Tamer™]

30-35? At best I'd expect 25 of those legends to be DLC to at least make it fair to people who want more current guys, then everybody wins. We get our current guys free + the 10 main legends and NXT, then the legend fans take the DLC.

Sounds great! That could work. It`s like a previous poster mentioned earlier in this thread............compromise. Also hopefully they give us enough (perhaps more than we usually get, enough to merit a very large and rather noticeable sizeable addition) of CAW parts and moves ........also a significantly upgraded addition of more superstar heads.

With Visual Concepts playing a role with Yukes you could expect them to be focusing on detail, so the creation suite could highly benefit from this. Edited July 7, 2014 by RatedRLionTamer™

[best in the world]

@RatedRLionTamer:  Some of the statements you have made throughout the topic here are simply ludicrous and quite redundant.  I think anyone who has kept up with this topic has no doubt where you stand on the issue.  You believe NXT is superior to legends, which in my view is quite crazy.  Without those guys who paved the way, you don't have an NXT.  Try to understand, I am not advocating an all legends game.  But whether you like it or not, there are millions of fans who have stopped watching pro wrestling & WWE since the days of the Monday Night Wars[and the death of ECW as well].  Coincidental?  I think not.

 

For those who want NXT, set that up in WWE Universe.  If 2K did an NXT DLC pack, that would pacify the new agers while doing a WCW Mode would satisfy the more old school fans like myself.  The difference between you and me throughout is that I am stating my view on it and leaving up to others to do the same.  Not whining about other people's preferences.  2K is obviously doing something with legends since guys like Hogan are in[confirmed] & Sting is rumored to be the pre-order bonus.  Could 2K not do both?  NXT with DLC and WCW Mode for the throwback, win-win.

Edited July 8, 2014 by best in the world

[Tamer™]

I'm sick of never getting something new, I hate reliving these events. If you want to relive something, go on the WWE Network, lots of matches on there. I don't want to give over £300 of my money for a new console and this game just for nostalgia, they say we're in a new era, give us something new for crying out loud. If they make me relive the WrestleMania 3 bodyslam for a third time or they throw the 100 Vince Russo swerves at my face along with half the roster joining nWo then I'm done. No money from me or anyone else for that matter because of them putting little focus on anything else.

[AgeofSandow]

WWE will decide who is in the game anyway.

[best in the world]

@RatedRLionTamer:  Yes and I am sick of fans who whine about never getting anything new and/or reliving events.  The fact is, we do get new additions each year although most to this point have been minor additions but still you get the point.  And one could argue that if people want NXT, stick to the WWE Network for that.  For every gamer out there sick of "reliving" past events, there are probably ten more who are buying the games for that exact purpose.  WWE simply does not operate the same way anymore and they aren't making new stars.  They don't have divisions anymore because that would imply WRESTLING, which WWE considers to be a dirty word these days.  Say all you want about "nostalgia" but WWF, WCW, and ECW had big stars who people wanted to pay to see and would buy a game based on.  I don't think the same can be said of an NXT based mode in a game.....

Edited July 8, 2014 by best in the world

[the King Lives]

@RatedRLionTamer:  Yes and I am sick of fans who whine about never getting anything new and/or reliving events.  The fact is, we do get new additions each year although most to this point have been minor additions but still you get the point.  And one could argue that if people want NXT, stick to the WWE Network for that.  For every gamer out there sick of "reliving" past events, there are probably ten more who are buying the games for that exact purpose.  WWE simply does not operate the same way anymore and they aren't making new stars.  They don't have divisions anymore because that would imply WRESTLING, which WWE considers to be a dirty word these days.  Say all you want about "nostalgia" but WWF, WCW, and ECW had big stars who people wanted to pay to see and would buy a game based on.  I don't think the same can be said of an NXT based mode in a game.....

 

@RatedRLionTamer:  Yes and I am sick of fans who whine about never getting anything new and/or reliving events.  The fact is, we do get new additions each year although most to this point have been minor additions but still you get the point.  And one could argue that if people want NXT, stick to the WWE Network for that.  For every gamer out there sick of "reliving" past events, there are probably ten more who are buying the games for that exact purpose.  WWE simply does not operate the same way anymore and they aren't making new stars.  They don't have divisions anymore because that would imply WRESTLING, which WWE considers to be a dirty word these days.  Say all you want about "nostalgia" but WWF, WCW, and ECW had big stars who people wanted to pay to see and would buy a game based on.  I don't think the same can be said of an NXT based mode in a game.....

I have to side with Best in the World on this one, the nxt stuff is not all that great, heck i hardly use most of the indie moves that's been included in these dlc move packs.  Bottom line is NXT will never be main stream and definitely never will be on par with main shows like raw and smckdown.  And yeah WCW ECW/old WWF was hell of alot better than what we get these days.. only people that seem to want people in a game that are of this generation are mostly people 25 years old and younger.  Most of people in my age group (34/35 and up) would much rather have a mixed and diverse roster between new and old and when i say new i mean people like the shield, fandango, people that are on the main roster not a developmental show like NXT

[AgeofSandow]

this argument needs to die.

[best in the world]

@jeffdomain:  You accurately summed up my thoughts on this whole NXT vs. Legends debate.  NXT isn't mainstream and the casual fan who barely watches anymore will not want the game if the selling theme is NXT.  The roster would be more diverse & unique if a WCW Mode were used and it'd be nice for WWE to even the perspective offered in WWE '13 for Attitude Era Mode.  WWE's target audience are kids and most of them aren't aware of history with WCW or the older WWF stuff.  Like I said, for the NXT fans 2K could do a DLC pack with the arena, superstars, etc. while doing a throwback mode for the old school fans.  If for no other reason, to do dream matches with past talents vs. new talents.

 

@AgeofSandow:  I agree that the argument needs to die and is getting old fast.  RatedRLionTamer is virtually obsessed with NXT and keeps rehashing this stuff.  Keep in mind, I never said NXT itself was bad.  NXT has potential and could be more given the right role within WWE if talents were used right with how they are pushed & packaged.  But it's a stretch to want to leapfrog virtual unknowns into the spotlight mode of 2K15 when most aren't familiar with the NXT talents. 

Edited July 8, 2014 by best in the world

[the King Lives]

@jeffdomain:  You accurately summed up my thoughts on this whole NXT vs. Legends debate.  NXT isn't mainstream and the casual fan who barely watches anymore will not want the game if the selling theme is NXT.  The roster would be more diverse & unique if a WCW Mode were used and it'd be nice for WWE to even the perspective offered in WWE '13 for Attitude Era Mode.  WWE's target audience are kids and most of them aren't aware of history with WCW or the older WWF stuff.  Like I said, for the NXT fans 2K could do a DLC pack with the arena, superstars, etc. while doing a throwback mode for the old school fans.  If for no other reason, to do dream matches with past talents vs. new talents.

 

@AgeofSandow:  I agree that the argument needs to die and is getting old fast.  RatedRLionTamer is virtually obsessed with NXT and keeps rehashing this stuff.  Keep in mind, I never said NXT itself was bad.  NXT has potential and could be more given the right role within WWE if talents were used right with how they are pushed & packaged.  But it's a stretch to want to leapfrog virtual unknowns into the spotlight mode of 2K15 when most aren't familiar with the NXT talents. 

I agree on both accounts it's the same thing where a guy on the 2k forums is obsessed with the shield staying in their Pre-Singles attires.  I just think that this whole nxt vs legends debate is old and i'm so tired of arguing about it.  NXT is developmental same as OVW and how the WCW Powerplant was.  You never saw those people in a wwe/wcw game either till they made mainstream

[AgeofSandow]

2K is looking to make cash, right? So why don't they stick these NXT guys as DLC?  That way, they'll all get dedicated moves just for them, instead of trying to squish them all in with this mix of current and legends, which is going to be huge. Tons of new people coming, and if rumors are true, new legends like Sting, Sid, and Honky Tonk Man.

[the King Lives]

Austin, Rock, Shawn Michaels, Edge, Eddie Guerrero, Undertaker, Flair, Jericho, Randy Savage and Hogan. To be honest these are the only legends I care about. Universe mode has been near unplayable since it's inception despite the fact that it's the meat of the game. It's broken and it should be fixed over a new legends mode. A career mode similar to the recent UFC game would also be pretty cool.

it's only unplayable cause people keep adding for additions to be added to the mode instead of fixing what's already messed up. And no i don't want anything like that UFC Game

[the King Lives]

2K is looking to make cash, right? So why don't they stick these NXT guys as DLC?  That way, they'll all get dedicated moves just for them, instead of trying to squish them all in with this mix of current and legends, which is going to be huge. Tons of new people coming, and if rumors are true, new legends like Sting, Sid, and Honky Tonk Man.

i hope if sid is in the game, he has a new chokeslam and powerbomb, he shouldn't have nash's jacknife

[best in the world]

@jeffsdomain:  I have always wondered why Sid didn't have his own chokeslam and powerbomb animations.  Psycho bomb is different than Nash's jackknife and his chokeslam was slightly different, if for anything else for the speed.

 

@AgeofSandow:  I said the same thing, why not make NXT DLC?  Solves both problems...