huh Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) @Godflow Yes, I understand that grown people mess with children, gay or straight. But that guy that touched me was dressed in tight, feminine clothing, and was wearing earings so I am 100% sure he was gay. And that teacher, also dressed the same way. To me that doesn't matter, if you could tell they were gay, there is no denying it. well, the guy in your avatar and signature is dressed in tight, feminine clothing... 1. As far as we all know, he isn't gay. 2. It is a gimmick. I'm not going into much more detail on that because it wouldn't prove any points and this conversation has nothing to do with wrestling. if he came out tomorrow and said he was gay, would you remove him from your profile and dislike him just for that? although he's still the same exact person and has the same wrestling skills he had before he came out? another note: all of the gay people that I've ever met in my life have dressed pretty regularly I would still have him yes. I respect Darren Young wrestling wise, but not personaly. let's compare homophobia to racism really quick (I usually don't like when people do this but I saw the opportunity) Let's say when I was 10, a group of *insert race that's not mine* guys brutally attacked me and stole all of my personal belongings. Would I be wrong in not only hating their entire race, but assuming that all of them are criminals and thieves? Yes, I would be. Just like how you're wrong. You can't judge a whole population of people just based on a select few people from that group. To make another wrestling comparison, just because Chris Benoit killed his family, does that mean that all professional wrestlers are mentally unstable murderers? And please explain what makes you not respect Darren Young personally. Is it just the fact that he's into men, because that makes no sense whatsoever. You've never even met the guy. You're just not making sense here man. And you're not getting attacked by everyone in this topic just because you disagree with us, it's just that you haven't once backed up your beliefs with any type of legitimate backing. Okay, a gay man did something to you and it's understandable for you to hate that specific man, but why hate the entire gay population? And then you say you understand the people who were born that way, but aren't even intelligent enough to realize that everyone is born with their sexual orientation. They might experiment with something else for a period of their life, or maybe they try to be something that they're not, but everyone is who they are. You and I were born straight but Darren Young and any other gay person was born gay. Just like I was born a certain shade of skin, and you were born a certain shade of skin. Or like I was born with a certain eye color, and you were born with a certain eye color. OT: We need more threads like this. Edited April 14, 2014 by godflow
Righteous Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 IMO homosexuality is a choice. Do I hate gay folk? Not at all. Do I bash gay folk? Absolutely not. What I do find unfair is the mentality that because someone doesn't agree with homosexuality, they are homophobic, or hate gay folk. Not true. Someone can disagree with your lifestyle, and still love the person. And that goes for any and all preferences. I accept you for you, do you accept me for me? Plain and simple.
ThatMelaninBaby! Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 OT: We need more threads like this. Ditto.
Dead-Account Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 OT: We need more threads like this. Ditto. They're good to get the stress out.
T Agent Crane HK Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) I don't hate them nor do I care why and how their attracted to the same sex. Some say they're born that way which I don't see it that way and I don't care what scientific matters have to say about it. However I hate how nowadays they push the whole gay marriage rights thing. For example, when you see two men get married it's always a big deal in the media and they always promote and broadcast it to the world, but yet when a man and a women gets married it doesn't reach that attention or publicity and for that why? Edit: I mean is it not a big deal if a straight couple get married? Don't everyone deserves to be happy? Talk about discrimination. I mean I suppose it's not cool to be straight just as much as it's not cool to be gay right? Why force people's lifestyles? Again I don't judge the human preference, but I feel like sometimes it goes to far. Edited April 14, 2014 by ChildrenOfTheCorn
ThatMelaninBaby! Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 OT: We need more threads like this. Ditto. They're good to get the stress out. And as a nation weather it is positive or negative we need these type of conversations, the 1% (the owner's) do it why can't we. It's kinda like we are at our on round table discussing what's right from wrong. The next step is what can be done
Crikes™ Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) In my opinion, I feel everybody should have equal rights. Women, kids, and men. Wither you're a homosexual or not, wither you believe in god or not. It doesn't freaking matter. As long as your a good person to friends and family. You are good. (On a side note, I'm not feminist) Edited April 14, 2014 by Crikes™
IceShimmer x Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I Read Through This Topic And Pretty Much Everyone Summed Up What IWas Gonna Say They're Human Too No Different..And People Who Bible Bash Imo Are The Only Living Assholes Whos Against Gays..Shame To See People Have No Respect.
IceShimmer x Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 And DP1 Some Peoppe Are Scared Of Coming Out Because Of Their Families Disowning Them.....
The Don Posted April 14, 2014 Author Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) I ask if gay people should be treated differently and if the anti-gay people should be punished and six pages later... A few good points have been made. A few idiots shown their stupidity. A couple of people got butthurt. And the one guy who actully voices an unpopular opinion isn't able to defend it logically. (I'm actually let down by this) ...It's good to be back. But seriously, I made this post for a few reasons, one of which was to see how many regular and active posters can put together a few thought out posts. I must say, I'm quite impressed.I might sound like an asshole saying that, but that's the truth. I might have to stick around for awhile. Edited April 14, 2014 by The Don
Dead-Account Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I ask if gay people should be treated differently and if the anti-gay people should be punished and six pages later... A few good points have been made. A few idiots shown their stupidity. A couple of people got butthurt. And the one guy who actully voices an unpopular opinion isn't able to defend it logically. (I'm actually let down by this) ...It's good to be back. But seriously, I made this post for a few reasons, one of which was to see how many regular and active posters can put together a few thought out posts. I must say, I'm quite impressed.I might sound like an asshole saying that, but that's the truth. I might have to stick around for awhile. So this was just to test the new Smacktalks good job it was really entertaining.
DP1™ Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 And DP1 Some Peoppe Are Scared Of Coming Out Because Of Their Families Disowning Them..... I've been disowned by my father for my heart conditions.
iGen Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I never thought I'd get a concussion from facepalms before, but this post got me really close. Every person in the world deserves to be treated equally and no one should give a fuck what people do with one another in the privacy of their own homes. If they do they need to realize what they are doing is extremely hateful and ignorant
The Don Posted April 14, 2014 Author Posted April 14, 2014 Yes and no. I really think it's an interesting debate and I would have like to seen it go on a bit longer but inevitably a person or two comes along hungry and looking to eat the retard cake. It'd be nice to see more actual discussions going on here, but I guess "Ask Me" posts are easier to do. No offence to anyone who's made one, just back when I posted you got to know other members by their posts and maybe talking on MSN or AIM.* I feel like I should have been in a rocking chair saying that.
Bob_Van_Dam Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I never thought I'd get a concussion from facepalms before, but this post got me really close. Every person in the world deserves to be treated equally and no one should give a fuck what people do with one another in the privacy of their own homes. If they do they need to realize what they are doing is extremely hateful and ignorant This topic brought some actual discussion onto this board, it was nice to see some of these comments(in a way).
iGen Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I never thought I'd get a concussion from facepalms before, but this post got me really close. Every person in the world deserves to be treated equally and no one should give a fuck what people do with one another in the privacy of their own homes. If they do they need to realize what they are doing is extremely hateful and ignorant This topic brought some actual discussion onto this board, it was nice to see some of these comments(in a way). I get that in every way, I was just amazed how much hate some people can have for an entire group of people they will never be able to understand
The Don Posted April 14, 2014 Author Posted April 14, 2014 I never thought I'd get a concussion from facepalms before, but this post got me really close. Every person in the world deserves to be treated equally and no one should give a fuck what people do with one another in the privacy of their own homes. If they do they need to realize what they are doing is extremely hateful and ignorant This topic brought some actual discussion onto this board, it was nice to see some of these comments(in a way). Thank you and you're welcome. Yes and no. I really think it's an interesting debate and I would have like to seen it go on a bit longer but inevitably a person or two comes along hungry and looking to eat the retard cake. It'd be nice to see more actual discussions going on here, but I guess "Ask Me" posts are easier to do. No offence to anyone who's made one, just back when I posted you got to know other members by their posts and maybe talking on MSN or AIM.* I feel like I should have been in a rocking chair saying that. I made a thread that was called Let's get controversial to discuss topics such as this but, I deleted it due to how stupid the first two responses were. Again, all it takes is a person or two to be hungry for retard cake.
BrotchMrToast Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I really like discussing topics like these. Unfortunately, these most of the time turn into a fight, with name-callings etc. But, I guess things like that are inevitable.
Tamer™ Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Time to give my opinion , the way I see it if let's say I didn't like gays and I avoided them that would be like people avoiding me because I'm black , it wouldn't be fair and personally I don't have a problem with any of them , they're human I'm human.
ThatMelaninBaby! Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Time to give my opinion , the way I see it if let's say I didn't like gays and I avoided them that would be like people avoiding me because I'm black , it wouldn't be fair and personally I don't have a problem with any of them , they're human I'm human. Well being black or any other ethnicity that has been held down, you tend to have more understanding and compassion for others, to a fault like you are a damn Martyr, but that's another topic.
DP1™ Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Because he is an ignorant person who was born to a family of ignorant people who probably think the world is 3000 years old. That would mean that I think slavery is okay and that women belong barefoot and pregnant fixing food in the kitchen while I do nothing is normal? I think not.
IceShimmer x Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Because he is an ignorant person who was born to a family of ignorant people who probably think the world is 3000 years old. That would mean that I think slavery is okay and that women belong barefoot and pregnant fixing food in the kitchen while I do nothing is normal? I think not. Then Why Be Against Gays?
Dead-Account Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Because he is an ignorant person who was born to a family of ignorant people who probably think the world is 3000 years old. That would mean that I think slavery is okay and that women belong barefoot and pregnant fixing food in the kitchen while I do nothing is normal? I think not. Wh...Why did you come back here? This ain't gonna end well.
DP1™ Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Because he is an ignorant person who was born to a family of ignorant people who probably think the world is 3000 years old. That would mean that I think slavery is okay and that women belong barefoot and pregnant fixing food in the kitchen while I do nothing is normal? I think not. Then Why Be Against Gays? Thats not how love is meant. Because he is an ignorant person who was born to a family of ignorant people who probably think the world is 3000 years old. That would mean that I think slavery is okay and that women belong barefoot and pregnant fixing food in the kitchen while I do nothing is normal? I think not. Wh...Why did you come back here? This ain't gonna end well. Just to make that statement.
IceShimmer x Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Love Is Love.. You Like Whoever You Choose, Your Young To Say Your Against Gays
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