UPDATED! Jeff Hardy 2002/03 era 4attires search TWISTOFATE 1987 tw

January 22, 2014

lol basically yeah the face took 5 days (but probably 6hrs counting up) for me to decide that's what I think is right lol

January 22, 2014

I still tweak the face everytime I go on, that's 6 in morning till 7 then 8 till 9 at night. but if im a good boy she lets me have an hour at half 3 lol so yeah I get "loads" of time

January 22, 2014

I've just had a quick pair up of wolfgangs and Jordan's but I see a few differences, the eyeline is straighter and the mouth and jaw area look different too.

Like I said before I'm not a caw maker but I just don't think it's quite the same

January 22, 2014

thank you at least somebody sees sense I put this caw up (THAT I MADE FROM SCRATCH!!!!!) so people can enjoy a good caw of this era instead I got disrespected for something I aint even done FACT!!!

January 22, 2014

I've just had a quick pair up of wolfgangs and Jordan's but I see a few differences, the eyeline is straighter and the mouth and jaw area look different too.
Like I said before I'm not a caw maker but I just don't think it's quite the same

Haha..then you are completely blind....his eye angle is -27, mine is -28..so how is it they are straighter with 1 point change? lol..1 point wouldn't hardly change the angle at all...as a matter of fact, sometimes, the game itself will move some numbers by 1 point when you save...

His:

Head: 0, -5, -7 (obviously changes minorly based on body..but notice how small the change)

Cranium: -14, -85, 1, -60 (main change = due to hair change, thus less width on cranium)

Forehead: 40, 0, 0, 0 (again, hair change only reason the forehead size moves to lower the hairline..note nothing else moved from the 0's)

Eyebrows: -100, -90, 74, 46 (so basically changed the depth and lowered them..angle only moved by 2...)

Eyes: 61, -70, -50, -88, -43, -45, -28 (so made them smaller by less width and height, forcing him to move the x-axis in since they'd be too far from the nose with those changes, then changed the depth like on the eyebrows)

Nose: -30, -30, 5, 40, -65, -4, 8, 44 (so lessened the height and the nostril height is all)...

Cheeks: 2, -7, -33, 72 (identical)

Mouth: 33, -55, 5, 0, 70, 12, -20 (biggest change on whole CAW...likely due to not working with the face skin that had lips on it the mouth was shaped around...still obviously a tweak by the way the numbers are and some of the closeness)

Jaw: -70, -39, 38, 15, -16, -100 (obvious change is jaw height since he moved the mouth up...everything else didn't or very slightly changed)

Ears: 17, -5, -7, -32 (changed shape by 20, only thing different)

Mine/Y2Ken's morph:

Head: 5, 7, 8

Cranium: -14, -54, 1, -60

Forehead: 100, 0, 0, 0

Eyebrows: -84, -90, 52, 44

Eyes: 61, -47, -35, -88, -9, -45, -27

Nose: -30, -11, 5, 40, -41, -4, 8, 44

Cheek: 2, -7, -33, 72

Mouth: 17, -36, 1, 0, 70, 19, -15

Jaw: -59, -39, 38, 15, -16, -100

Ears: 17, -5, -7, -52

There's a more direct pair up...any of you that still believe his BS after seeing that obviously are NOT CAW creators....there are over 200 points of setting for each and every slider (100 to the negative, 100 to the positive)...so they are that dead on on that many spots when we both had 200 points of play on each one and they were done seperate? He just "happened" to go to the negative or positive in every single slider I did...and also hit that many numbers exact after moving the slider identical in direction? You guys really should use common sense. Did you think I wouldn't show the formula for something people can get it from just by downloading it? lol...can't get the face skins/paints/attire work that's on it though, can ya?

@Jordon, cut the BS, you're caught, you thought you wouldn't be, but you were....you've been warned...I'd suggest you be humble and just fix the crediting and quit trying to pretend that you did something you didn't. You merely tweaked a formula you wrote down after downloading it. You credit yourself for the things you did, but give credit to what you used as well...we're all not stupid.

Edited January 23, 2014 by WolfgangJT

January 22, 2014

i didnt understand a single word of that lol i really did not use any of your formula seriously dude im not a cunt. you guys probably get that oftern but im not taken being accused of something i havent even done mate! im not gonna sit here and take it .... if i still had wwe 13 i used my formular from that but obviously with tweaks, but you to sit there and accuse me and try show up a new guy well done (clap clap clap) hope ur proud and i expect an apology as well for trying to make me look a thievin twat. sorry this seems a bit rude but what do you expect from me after being acused of "stealing" formulars haha f'n hell got 1000000s of things more important in life than to do that mate.
and anyway stop trying to point out little mistakes etc instead say 'what fucking great effort this is good caw jordan... its not perfect but its better than the other crap wats up on CC ' lol u kno this is my first thread and being called a liar a cheat and a thief...... im not eddie guerro i swear haha anyway i expect some decent feedback wolfyboi dont want no acusations or shit like that... positive replys pls mate thats a gd boy then
and another thing mr gang i wrote a review on your caw last week i didnt download it ive been working on this jeff since just after xmas wen i got the game ive used previous games to add little details here and there but none of which was copied. in future dont jump the gun... "the forum owner has seen it" well if thats what it comes down to on here 'he stole my caw boo hoo.....' then thats just childish because youve acused me of something and that effects me because i havent done nothing wrong and people will see wat u wrote and judge me before they even know me which is a shame because i have a lot of respect for a lot of people on here... you included but you saying all that youve lost a little respect wst i had for you mate

Except you need to download the CAW to write a review. Nice try though.

January 22, 2014

In this guys (kinda) diffence, I just whipped a hardy up using loads if diff ref's and the eye angle has got to be in the -25 to -30 range to look anything like jeffs, cant explain the rest as I haven't quite got there yet ha.

January 22, 2014

i didnt understand a single word of that lol i really did not use any of your formula seriously dude im not a cunt. you guys probably get that oftern but im not taken being accused of something i havent even done mate! im not gonna sit here and take it .... if i still had wwe 13 i used my formular from that but obviously with tweaks, but you to sit there and accuse me and try show up a new guy well done (clap clap clap) hope ur proud and i expect an apology as well for trying to make me look a thievin twat. sorry this seems a bit rude but what do you expect from me after being acused of "stealing" formulars haha f'n hell got 1000000s of things more important in life than to do that mate.
and anyway stop trying to point out little mistakes etc instead say 'what fucking great effort this is good caw jordan... its not perfect but its better than the other crap wats up on CC ' lol u kno this is my first thread and being called a liar a cheat and a thief...... im not eddie guerro i swear haha anyway i expect some decent feedback wolfyboi dont want no acusations or shit like that... positive replys pls mate thats a gd boy then
and another thing mr gang i wrote a review on your caw last week i didnt download it ive been working on this jeff since just after xmas wen i got the game ive used previous games to add little details here and there but none of which was copied. in future dont jump the gun... "the forum owner has seen it" well if thats what it comes down to on here 'he stole my caw boo hoo.....' then thats just childish because youve acused me of something and that effects me because i havent done nothing wrong and people will see wat u wrote and judge me before they even know me which is a shame because i have a lot of respect for a lot of people on here... you included but you saying all that youve lost a little respect wst i had for you mate

Except you need to download the CAW to write a review. Nice try though.

Don't forget the fact he "started this just before Xmas"...*cough* my Jeff was released on Live to the public Dec 16th..a good 2 weeks beforehand *cough*...oh, and he thinks I care about his respect for me when he's so obviously still credit stealing...oh, and "he used previous games to add little details"...all of which he also has not credited the stuff he just said he looked at....

@Jordon...the formulas are now in here...the excuses are over, people can SEE it now...

Edited January 22, 2014 by WolfgangJT

January 22, 2014

In this guys (kinda) diffence, I just whipped a hardy up using loads if diff ref's and the eye angle has got to be in the -25 to -30 range to look anything like jeffs, cant explain the rest as I haven't quite got there yet ha.

LMFAO. ^_^

January 22, 2014

i didnt understand a single word of that lol i really did not use any of your formula seriously dude im not a cunt. you guys probably get that oftern but im not taken being accused of something i havent even done mate! im not gonna sit here and take it .... if i still had wwe 13 i used my formular from that but obviously with tweaks, but you to sit there and accuse me and try show up a new guy well done (clap clap clap) hope ur proud and i expect an apology as well for trying to make me look a thievin twat. sorry this seems a bit rude but what do you expect from me after being acused of "stealing" formulars haha f'n hell got 1000000s of things more important in life than to do that mate.
and anyway stop trying to point out little mistakes etc instead say 'what fucking great effort this is good caw jordan... its not perfect but its better than the other crap wats up on CC ' lol u kno this is my first thread and being called a liar a cheat and a thief...... im not eddie guerro i swear haha anyway i expect some decent feedback wolfyboi dont want no acusations or shit like that... positive replys pls mate thats a gd boy then
and another thing mr gang i wrote a review on your caw last week i didnt download it ive been working on this jeff since just after xmas wen i got the game ive used previous games to add little details here and there but none of which was copied. in future dont jump the gun... "the forum owner has seen it" well if thats what it comes down to on here 'he stole my caw boo hoo.....' then thats just childish because youve acused me of something and that effects me because i havent done nothing wrong and people will see wat u wrote and judge me before they even know me which is a shame because i have a lot of respect for a lot of people on here... you included but you saying all that youve lost a little respect wst i had for you mate

Except you need to download the CAW to write a review. Nice try though.

Don't forget the fact he "started this just before Xmas"...*cough* my Jeff was released on Live to the public Dec 16th..a good 2 weeks beforehand *cough*...oh, and he thinks I care about his respect for me when he's so obviously still credit stealing...

Preach it, Wolfie!

January 22, 2014

no bones about it! -24 to be precise.

January 22, 2014

no bones about it! -24 to be precise.

*snickers* you sure it's not -25? come on, one point changes everything....oh, and now your CAW is mine, I'm the reason of it being -25, it's mine, all mine I tell ya...

Edited January 22, 2014 by WolfgangJT

January 22, 2014

For a minute I thought you forgot how I roll, but eventually you got there ha!

January 22, 2014

seriously? u got nothing better to do with your life than try make a new member to this site feel 2inchs tall? your so childish slagging me off because my caw resembles your own ? I made this caw using my own formula not urs FACT!! don't disrespect me mate because everyone is seeing what a childish little boy u are. if I was to use your precious little formula I would of asked permission... I didn't use it so I did not ask permission..... your so far up the bosses arse mate no body like a lick arse... as for continuing to slag me of in the topics shouldn't you get a warning? I made MY caw in this thread by my self nobody helped didn't use no body's formula jeff hardy I have created since HCTP and that's the only caw I ever create because that's who I'm best at caws. you are one of the most disrespecting person I've ever met... I said I'd forgiving you for accusing me of stealing but you have gone to a new low dude... when somebody is innocent such as my self I don't give up if you cant say nothing nice about me (who you don't even know) don't say nothing at all and leave my thread please because I got no time for time wasters. maybe your jelous I don't know but this has to stop I've asked you nicely I've explained myself (even tho I got nothing to explain) your not getting credit for my own formula whether you believe me or not no way!! (I got wwe 2k14 from my kids for xmas by the way not before) my caw has nothing to do with you and your formula sorry to break the bad news.... RANT OVER

January 22, 2014

the formula is there for everyone to see so?? whats this to prove? how does it prove anything just proves that its close. you cant accuse someone cuz its close ? yeah its real close must mean I stolen it!!! lol come on I've came close to yours you said its near impossble... NEAR.... obviously I've proven its not impossible what ever it is you are after you wont find it here wolfgang sorry I know your use to getting your own way and being top dog (or wolf whatever you prefer) but I'm not gonna sit here and let you run your mouth bout me its wrong what your doing. I made this fair and square and you've ruined my first time on here for what.... nothing!! disgraceful hope your proud of your self.

January 22, 2014

and another thing mr gang i wrote a review on your caw last week i didnt download it

please explain this magic since you can't leave a review without downloading it

January 22, 2014

yes you can mate lol if I would of downloaded it last week then how have I got the same jeff form to this one with different attires for my 2001/2002 caw I put up earlier this month? and your getting involved because...... don't judge me cuz some crazed being is determined I stole his caw formula.

January 22, 2014

haha..you're funny...next. Make you feel two inches tall....ha...you should if the best you got is ripping from others and trying to slight them the credit they deserve. News flash..EVERYONE that tries this stunt says the SAME thing...I did it on my own, I didn't steal anything...blah, blah, blah...heard it before...also seen many of them later on come back and finally fess up to it (typically done because they thought no one would pay attention to them so they used someone else's to get noticed and tweaked it). Truth be told, you had a chance to fix the credits...you can rant all you want, but I'm quite immune to hearing the same garbage year in and year out from these "brand new" makers that only can seem to make something that happens to always have a formula match to someone else's...it's not that it's similar in looks, it's that it dead matches formula...that is absolutely impossible, just as is reviewing a creation without downloading it. No one on here could go in at any point and tell if or when you may have downloaded it, which is why you are leaning on that weak ass reasoning....but the formulas match tells otherwise....so does it's release prior to your beginning along with you even stating you went back to other games to reference people's stuff for detailing (which you also didn't credit)...so keep spitting it all you want. I think you can see you're only trying to convince yourself at this point....most smart people aren't buying it anymore.

You wanna "feel bigger than 2 inches", either fess up and share the credit for the parts you did while giving credit for the parts you used (thus getting your stuff out there too)...then you're still getting comments for your parts and your work in it, regardless if the whole morph wasn't yours....or prove you can match again...I'll make, let's say Jay Leno...match my formula without me releasing it...care to put your lame excuses and rant where your mouth is to prove that you can make a good face that matches my formula at least the same 60+% number and positive/negative direction without anything to reference or take from that'd be worth a shit? Or do you wanna stop while you can save some face? Here's a way to "be taller" and "make people believe"...take the challenge if you think it's possible to do like you want to convince everyone...

Edited January 22, 2014 by WolfgangJT

January 22, 2014

well thats funny because years of owning the wwe game series has taught that you have to download the caw to leave a review but you must be magic

January 22, 2014

Let's end this here with the proposed "Leno" Off haa.. good idea that though.. I say once every so often ST should have a showdown where everybody makes the same guy then post on a certain day to see whos got the minerals haa oh shit we do (ST cawpetition) :smack: d'oh!

January 22, 2014

well thats funny because years of owning the wwe game series has taught that you have to download the caw to leave a review but you must be magic

I believe you can just preview and then leave a review.

January 22, 2014

Let's end this here with the proposed "Leno" Off haa.. good idea that though.. I say once every so often ST should have a showdown where everybody makes the same guy then post on a certain day to see whos got the minerals haa oh shit we do (ST cawpetition) d'oh!

hehe...I'm 10-0 so far doing it....bad thing for him, wouldn't be a "who's is closer" contest, it'd be a "can you make the formulas match like you are trying to make people believe" contest...lol.

January 22, 2014

ha!

January 22, 2014

well thats funny because years of owning the wwe game series has taught that you have to download the caw to leave a review but you must be magic

I believe you can just preview and then leave a review.

...then dead-match over 60% of the morph numbers exact on said creation you only "previewed"? lol....are you actually buying that?

January 22, 2014

well thats funny because years of owning the wwe game series has taught that you have to download the caw to leave a review but you must be magic

I believe you can just preview and then leave a review.

i learned that when you preview a caw you're actually downloading it but i suppose i should have typed it better

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