the King Lives Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 well that's just the thing, aside of sting, nash, angle, christian, jarrett and samoa joe, i didn't know the rest of the roster lol You seem to be a fan of all things wrestling, so you really should brush up on TNA from 2002 to about 2008. After that, the shows were pretty substandard and just copying off of whatever WWE happened to be doing and culminated after Hogan/Bischoff joined in 2010. TNA hasn't been the same since they came in, pillaged the company, and then left. But TNA as company was far better in the beginning years and I think you'd be surprised at how many great moments & matches that you missed..... yeah that was really when i wanted to watch (before they got primetime tv but i didn't have the option to get it on ppv. ) maybe i will check it out Quote
best in the world Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 well that's just the thing, aside of sting, nash, angle, christian, jarrett and samoa joe, i didn't know the rest of the roster lol You seem to be a fan of all things wrestling, so you really should brush up on TNA from 2002 to about 2008. After that, the shows were pretty substandard and just copying off of whatever WWE happened to be doing and culminated after Hogan/Bischoff joined in 2010. TNA hasn't been the same since they came in, pillaged the company, and then left. But TNA as company was far better in the beginning years and I think you'd be surprised at how many great moments & matches that you missed..... yeah that was really when i wanted to watch (before they got primetime tv but i didn't have the option to get it on ppv. ) maybe i will check it out I really enjoyed TNA around 2004 or so right after they quit doing weekly in-demand PPVS and went to Fox Sports Net. That was 2 years before they moved to Spike TV and they only had one hour[just like Spike TV in the beginning before they went to 2 hours]. They had some solid singles main events and great action each week. More importantly, they did storylines that actually made sense and progressed. I tuned in each week and was impressed with how consistent their shows were. I know TNA has their on-demand service with all their older stuff, which is about $9.99 a month and that time is the best to check out from 2002-2008. If you are like me and too cheap to pay for that on-demand service, they have much of it on youtube. Check out the Team 3D funeral segment[Dudley Boys] and see how entertaining that is. Or the Samoa Joe/Kurt Angle matches from 2006, I think it was either 2 or 3 matches they had and all of them were amazing. If you liked the cruiserweights in WCW, you should definitely check out the early X-Division stuff. Some of the innovative spots and high flying moments were badass. A lot of them you'll notice WWE stole some of[the tower of doom spot more especially where one guy superplexes the other while giving another guy the powerbomb]. Anyway, that's the better era of TNA to check out and you'll see why it is such a damn shame that current TNA isn't living up to their potential..... Quote
the King Lives Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 well that's just the thing, aside of sting, nash, angle, christian, jarrett and samoa joe, i didn't know the rest of the roster lol You seem to be a fan of all things wrestling, so you really should brush up on TNA from 2002 to about 2008. After that, the shows were pretty substandard and just copying off of whatever WWE happened to be doing and culminated after Hogan/Bischoff joined in 2010. TNA hasn't been the same since they came in, pillaged the company, and then left. But TNA as company was far better in the beginning years and I think you'd be surprised at how many great moments & matches that you missed..... yeah that was really when i wanted to watch (before they got primetime tv but i didn't have the option to get it on ppv. ) maybe i will check it out I really enjoyed TNA around 2004 or so right after they quit doing weekly in-demand PPVS and went to Fox Sports Net. That was 2 years before they moved to Spike TV and they only had one hour[just like Spike TV in the beginning before they went to 2 hours]. They had some solid singles main events and great action each week. More importantly, they did storylines that actually made sense and progressed. I tuned in each week and was impressed with how consistent their shows were. I know TNA has their on-demand service with all their older stuff, which is about $9.99 a month and that time is the best to check out from 2002-2008. If you are like me and too cheap to pay for that on-demand service, they have much of it on youtube. Check out the Team 3D funeral segment[Dudley Boys] and see how entertaining that is. Or the Samoa Joe/Kurt Angle matches from 2006, I think it was either 2 or 3 matches they had and all of them were amazing. If you liked the cruiserweights in WCW, you should definitely check out the early X-Division stuff. Some of the innovative spots and high flying moments were badass. A lot of them you'll notice WWE stole some of[the tower of doom spot more especially where one guy superplexes the other while giving another guy the powerbomb]. Anyway, that's the better era of TNA to check out and you'll see why it is such a damn shame that current TNA isn't living up to their potential..... yeah i hardly watched the attitude era (2000ish but that's about it - as you know i'm a wcw fan so i watched wcw from 96 - 2000) and stopped watching wwe around 2009 - 2011 Quote
best in the world Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 well that's just the thing, aside of sting, nash, angle, christian, jarrett and samoa joe, i didn't know the rest of the roster lol You seem to be a fan of all things wrestling, so you really should brush up on TNA from 2002 to about 2008. After that, the shows were pretty substandard and just copying off of whatever WWE happened to be doing and culminated after Hogan/Bischoff joined in 2010. TNA hasn't been the same since they came in, pillaged the company, and then left. But TNA as company was far better in the beginning years and I think you'd be surprised at how many great moments & matches that you missed..... yeah that was really when i wanted to watch (before they got primetime tv but i didn't have the option to get it on ppv. ) maybe i will check it out I really enjoyed TNA around 2004 or so right after they quit doing weekly in-demand PPVS and went to Fox Sports Net. That was 2 years before they moved to Spike TV and they only had one hour[just like Spike TV in the beginning before they went to 2 hours]. They had some solid singles main events and great action each week. More importantly, they did storylines that actually made sense and progressed. I tuned in each week and was impressed with how consistent their shows were. I know TNA has their on-demand service with all their older stuff, which is about $9.99 a month and that time is the best to check out from 2002-2008. If you are like me and too cheap to pay for that on-demand service, they have much of it on youtube. Check out the Team 3D funeral segment[Dudley Boys] and see how entertaining that is. Or the Samoa Joe/Kurt Angle matches from 2006, I think it was either 2 or 3 matches they had and all of them were amazing. If you liked the cruiserweights in WCW, you should definitely check out the early X-Division stuff. Some of the innovative spots and high flying moments were badass. A lot of them you'll notice WWE stole some of[the tower of doom spot more especially where one guy superplexes the other while giving another guy the powerbomb]. Anyway, that's the better era of TNA to check out and you'll see why it is such a damn shame that current TNA isn't living up to their potential..... yeah i hardly watched the attitude era (2000ish but that's about it - as you know i'm a wcw fan so i watched wcw from 96 - 2000) and stopped watching wwe around 2009 - 2011 The problem is that wrestling isn't wrestling anymore. It is highly overrated soap operas that are pandering to the kiddie audience, which in my view throws the whole genre off of what it should be. I watched more often during the Monday Night Wars with both WWF & WCW. WWE hasn't been truly great since around 2004 or 2005, which is why I mainly watch bits & pieces of RAW these days and not much else. TNA Impact is decent from time to time, but they are kind of stale and only copying whatever WWE is doing now. Which is why I preferred the older TNA stuff because it kind of reminded me of the older WCW. Sadly, it looks like they will follow WCW into oblivion without the epic rise that WCW had before it went under. So what should have been remembered as major competition for WWE will probably be remembered as an indy company with a TV deal..... Quote
the King Lives Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 it's mainly because after the acquisition of wcw/ecw, wrestling became a monopoly and yeah that's one reason i never really got into tna.. i hated russo in wcw and i never want to see that imp on my tv ever again Quote
prowrestling Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 ECW had games and they went bankrupt Quote
TheJoshuaGuest Posted January 2, 2014 Author Posted January 2, 2014 There was a game but I can't remember the name of it, but you were thrown out of WWE and you team up with Stephanie McMahon and try to ruin Wrestlemania and you fight security and wrestlers. I wonder if 2K would make a game like that for WWE 2K15 or 2K16 but a TNA game, mmmmhhhh... Quote
iamthedoctor Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 it's mainly because after the acquisition of wcw/ecw, wrestling became a monopoly and yeah that's one reason i never really got into tna.. i hated russo in wcw and i never want to see that imp on my tv ever again Russo is what ruined WCW for me he basically forced the fans to try and like a bunch of no talented kids. Then tried to say everything was a work. Quote
the King Lives Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 it's mainly because after the acquisition of wcw/ecw, wrestling became a monopoly and yeah that's one reason i never really got into tna.. i hated russo in wcw and i never want to see that imp on my tv ever again Russo is what ruined WCW for me he basically forced the fans to try and like a bunch of no talented kids. Then tried to say everything was a work. yeah i know.. that's why i said what i said.. i hate russo and it takes alot for me to hate something or someone Quote
best in the world Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) it's mainly because after the acquisition of wcw/ecw, wrestling became a monopoly and yeah that's one reason i never really got into tna.. i hated russo in wcw and i never want to see that imp on my tv ever again Trust me, as a big fan of WCW I absolutely HATE Russo myself. He is one of the biggest reasons that WCW went out of business besides bad management and letting inmates run the asylum so to speak. That and the whole Time Warner/AOL merger, nuff said there. Believe it or not, TNA wasn't that bad with Russo there since there were other people like Jeff Jarrett or Jim Cornette there at different times to reign him back in. There was still the shock TV and run-ins but it wasn't as often or illogical like his WCW work was. Vince Russo by himself, bad. Russo working with more talented wrestling saavy minds=not bad. The best part about TNA from 2002-2008 was the talent and not Russo. Lord knows, if TNA would have depended on the sheer acting and wrestling talents of one, Vince Russo, TNA would have went under ages ago..... Edited January 3, 2014 by best in the world Quote
the King Lives Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 it's mainly because after the acquisition of wcw/ecw, wrestling became a monopoly and yeah that's one reason i never really got into tna.. i hated russo in wcw and i never want to see that imp on my tv ever again Trust me, as a big fan of WCW I absolutely HATE Russo myself. He is one of the biggest reasons that WCW went out of business besides bad management and letting inmates run the asylum so to speak. That and the whole Time Warner/AOL merger, nuff said there. Believe it or not, TNA wasn't that bad with Russo there since there were other people like Jeff Jarrett or Jim Cornette there at different times to reign him back in. There was still the shock TV and run-ins but it wasn't as often or illogical like his WCW work was. Vince Russo by himself, bad. Russo working with more talented wrestling saavy minds=not bad. The best part about TNA from 2002-2008 was the talent and not Russo. Lord knows, if TNA would have depended on the sheer acting and wrestling talents of one, Vince Russo, TNA would have went under ages ago..... the aol/time warner merger was because of a guy named brad siegal he was also the reason scott hall was taken off of tv. Quote
iamthedoctor Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 it's mainly because after the acquisition of wcw/ecw, wrestling became a monopoly and yeah that's one reason i never really got into tna.. i hated russo in wcw and i never want to see that imp on my tv ever again Trust me, as a big fan of WCW I absolutely HATE Russo myself. He is one of the biggest reasons that WCW went out of business besides bad management and letting inmates run the asylum so to speak. That and the whole Time Warner/AOL merger, nuff said there. Believe it or not, TNA wasn't that bad with Russo there since there were other people like Jeff Jarrett or Jim Cornette there at different times to reign him back in. There was still the shock TV and run-ins but it wasn't as often or illogical like his WCW work was. Vince Russo by himself, bad. Russo working with more talented wrestling saavy minds=not bad. The best part about TNA from 2002-2008 was the talent and not Russo. Lord knows, if TNA would have depended on the sheer acting and wrestling talents of one, Vince Russo, TNA would have went under ages ago..... I know time warner was the big reason they went under but Russo was a big problem for me. The guy just doesnt get wrestling. The New Blood kids were terrible, stripping the belts off every really angered me as a fan as they had some big matches I wanted to see. Then he just done stupid things like winning the wcw belt and to be fair vince did it yes but there was a point and I didnt enjoy the russo/flair angle either. WCW went downhill for me in late 1999 which I believe is when he took over. Quote
T Agent Crane HK Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Not gonna lie. It might be better for a company like TNA to be published and developed under 2K, but considering they are not able to compete with WWE stops that from happening. When was the last time we all seen a TNA game? They only have one under their belt and I didn't care for it at all and it's a midway game? figures. Quote
iamthedoctor Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 If only New Japan came out with a game to compete. Quote
the King Lives Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) it's mainly because after the acquisition of wcw/ecw, wrestling became a monopoly and yeah that's one reason i never really got into tna.. i hated russo in wcw and i never want to see that imp on my tv ever again Trust me, as a big fan of WCW I absolutely HATE Russo myself. He is one of the biggest reasons that WCW went out of business besides bad management and letting inmates run the asylum so to speak. That and the whole Time Warner/AOL merger, nuff said there. Believe it or not, TNA wasn't that bad with Russo there since there were other people like Jeff Jarrett or Jim Cornette there at different times to reign him back in. There was still the shock TV and run-ins but it wasn't as often or illogical like his WCW work was. Vince Russo by himself, bad. Russo working with more talented wrestling saavy minds=not bad. The best part about TNA from 2002-2008 was the talent and not Russo. Lord knows, if TNA would have depended on the sheer acting and wrestling talents of one, Vince Russo, TNA would have went under ages ago..... I know time warner was the big reason they went under but Russo was a big problem for me. The guy just doesnt get wrestling. The New Blood kids were terrible, stripping the belts off every really angered me as a fan as they had some big matches I wanted to see. Then he just done stupid things like winning the wcw belt and to be fair vince did it yes but there was a point and I didnt enjoy the russo/flair angle either. WCW went downhill for me in late 1999 which I believe is when he took over. yeah but brad seigel had alot to do with it as well, as he persuaded turner to step down as chairman of turner sports. Then to add to that, because scott hall was dating his daughter, brad seigel didn't want hall on television which is where that whole "hall is too dangerous for wcw tv" angle came from in 2000 from there it just got worse and worse. Even when wcw was being sold, Turner really didn't have much say in it at all but yeah Russo ruined wcw.. I still say vince sent russo to wcw to sabotage them. Another theory also is that Russo just didn't know how to write a 3 hour show as WWF never had 3 hours and the fact that he was too immersed with the attitude era and was trying to turn wcw into another attitude era which got way out of hand. Edited January 5, 2014 by jeffsdomain Quote
iamthedoctor Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 it's mainly because after the acquisition of wcw/ecw, wrestling became a monopoly and yeah that's one reason i never really got into tna.. i hated russo in wcw and i never want to see that imp on my tv ever again Trust me, as a big fan of WCW I absolutely HATE Russo myself. He is one of the biggest reasons that WCW went out of business besides bad management and letting inmates run the asylum so to speak. That and the whole Time Warner/AOL merger, nuff said there. Believe it or not, TNA wasn't that bad with Russo there since there were other people like Jeff Jarrett or Jim Cornette there at different times to reign him back in. There was still the shock TV and run-ins but it wasn't as often or illogical like his WCW work was. Vince Russo by himself, bad. Russo working with more talented wrestling saavy minds=not bad. The best part about TNA from 2002-2008 was the talent and not Russo. Lord knows, if TNA would have depended on the sheer acting and wrestling talents of one, Vince Russo, TNA would have went under ages ago..... I know time warner was the big reason they went under but Russo was a big problem for me. The guy just doesnt get wrestling. The New Blood kids were terrible, stripping the belts off every really angered me as a fan as they had some big matches I wanted to see. Then he just done stupid things like winning the wcw belt and to be fair vince did it yes but there was a point and I didnt enjoy the russo/flair angle either. WCW went downhill for me in late 1999 which I believe is when he took over. yeah but brad seigel had alot to do with it as well, as he persuaded turner to step down as chairman of turner sports. Then to add to that, because scott hall was dating his daughter, brad seigel didn't want hall on television which is where that whole "hall is too dangerous for wcw tv" angle came from in 2000 from there it just got worse and worse. Even when wcw was being sold, Turner really didn't have much say in it at all but yeah Russo ruined wcw.. I still say vince sent russo to wcw to sabotage them. Another theory also is that Russo just didn't know how to write a 3 hour show as WWF never had 3 hours and the fact that he was too immersed with the attitude era and was trying to turn wcw into another attitude era which got way out of hand. Ive just started watching the start of the 3 hour Nitros in January 98 and they are so much better than the 2 hour Raws. I do sometimes wonder why people bother having shoot interviews with Russo when he just gives the same answer all the time, if you dont want to do a shoot then say so, dont just get asked a question and then reply back with a its a work answer 80 percent of the time its bloody annoying! What gets me about this guy is the whole Jarrett/Hogan/Booker incident at Bash at the Beach is that now when Russo talks about it he claims the whole thing was scripted and it was a complete work when obviously anyone watching it can clearly see it wasent a work. For those that havent seen it in 2000 Now fast forward to 2013 for a interview heres what Russo said Quote
the King Lives Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 it's mainly because after the acquisition of wcw/ecw, wrestling became a monopoly and yeah that's one reason i never really got into tna.. i hated russo in wcw and i never want to see that imp on my tv ever again Trust me, as a big fan of WCW I absolutely HATE Russo myself. He is one of the biggest reasons that WCW went out of business besides bad management and letting inmates run the asylum so to speak. That and the whole Time Warner/AOL merger, nuff said there. Believe it or not, TNA wasn't that bad with Russo there since there were other people like Jeff Jarrett or Jim Cornette there at different times to reign him back in. There was still the shock TV and run-ins but it wasn't as often or illogical like his WCW work was. Vince Russo by himself, bad. Russo working with more talented wrestling saavy minds=not bad. The best part about TNA from 2002-2008 was the talent and not Russo. Lord knows, if TNA would have depended on the sheer acting and wrestling talents of one, Vince Russo, TNA would have went under ages ago..... I know time warner was the big reason they went under but Russo was a big problem for me. The guy just doesnt get wrestling. The New Blood kids were terrible, stripping the belts off every really angered me as a fan as they had some big matches I wanted to see. Then he just done stupid things like winning the wcw belt and to be fair vince did it yes but there was a point and I didnt enjoy the russo/flair angle either. WCW went downhill for me in late 1999 which I believe is when he took over. yeah but brad seigel had alot to do with it as well, as he persuaded turner to step down as chairman of turner sports. Then to add to that, because scott hall was dating his daughter, brad seigel didn't want hall on television which is where that whole "hall is too dangerous for wcw tv" angle came from in 2000 from there it just got worse and worse. Even when wcw was being sold, Turner really didn't have much say in it at all but yeah Russo ruined wcw.. I still say vince sent russo to wcw to sabotage them. Another theory also is that Russo just didn't know how to write a 3 hour show as WWF never had 3 hours and the fact that he was too immersed with the attitude era and was trying to turn wcw into another attitude era which got way out of hand. Ive just started watching the start of the 3 hour Nitros in January 98 and they are so much better than the 2 hour Raws. I do sometimes wonder why people bother having shoot interviews with Russo when he just gives the same answer all the time, if you dont want to do a shoot then say so, dont just get asked a question and then reply back with a its a work answer 80 percent of the time its bloody annoying! What gets me about this guy is the whole Jarrett/Hogan/Booker incident at Bash at the Beach is that now when Russo talks about it he claims the whole thing was scripted and it was a complete work when obviously anyone watching it can clearly see it wasent a work. For those that havent seen it in 2000 Now fast forward to 2013 for a interview heres what Russo said yeah the 3 hour format was awesome. the fact like i said is that russo just didn't know how to write for 3 hours and yeah that definitely was not a work. even in my infantcy of knowledge of scripted wrestling kayfabe stuff my best friend and i even knew that it was a shoot Quote
iamthedoctor Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 I know what the point in a shoot interview is but whats the point in just ducking and diving the questions. If he didnt want to do it he just should have said so. They could have asked Jeff Jarrett to do this timeline yet someone who just wanted a paycheck. Quote
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