Auday Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Dude do you think people well say ok we won't upload the logos to XBL/PSN and then not upload them? NO if you think they won't then you are wrong, VERY wrong lets face it people will pay 18$ to import PT's for their personal use only? It won't be enjoyable at all i hate to say it but dude if there was some guys that were going to buy your tool now alot of them won't buy it. Also 18$ dollars for a game tool dude? then Brienj should've released every tool for 30$. Damn we miss those days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kush Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm thinking of buying this man,and just use the CAWs for personal use.How exactly does it work? And is there a tutorial for what size,format etc. to make the pics i want imported? The clues are there fella...view it on youtube and check the vid linked in the description. However as it's nearly Christmas and I'm feeling charitable I'll save you 5 mins of your life - DDS 8.8.8.8 ARGB 32 bpp | unsigned...put simply the format used in 12/13. Thanks alot AJsim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kush Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Also i've got another question will this work on windows 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rooster Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Also i've got another question will this work on windows 8? Windows 8 LOL People wont buy this tool if they can share their creations. KG is trying to maximise sales by forcing everybody to have a copy of the tool but it wont work. I dont make CAWs so why would I buy it. The people who do create CAWs are your target audience and they will only buy it if they can share the CAWs with people like me who dont make CAWs. You may get a few sales to people who just want to make CAWs for personal use but it will be very few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kush Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Also i've got another question will this work on windows 8? Windows 8 LOL People wont buy this tool if they can share their creations. KG is trying to maximise sales by forcing everybody to have a copy of the tool but it wont work. I dont make CAWs so why would I buy it. The people who do create CAWs are your target audience and they will only buy it if they can share the CAWs with people like me who dont make CAWs. You may get a few sales to people who just want to make CAWs for personal use but it will be very few. Whats funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfgangJT Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) I'm thinking of buying this man,and just use the CAWs for personal use.How exactly does it work? And is there a tutorial for what size,format etc. to make the pics i want imported? You do, eh? So that's not you over on caws.ws forums posting Sandman and Raven? o_O http://caws.ws/forum/topic/456390-kush-and-anti-present-ecfkingw-hd-pics-added-of-raven/ You oughta be more on the side of the makers, seeing you post too...so it's okay you share your CAWs to the community, not asking for any money in return, but a tool is potentially created that has way too steep of a price if he wants a bunch of people to get it...with terms that you can't upload any creations that used it to import a logo (when people have been importing logos for over 4 years and it still CAN be done now without this said tool, just only through JTAG)? Again, where's the logic? As people have said, it renders the functionality useless for any of the making community. Edited December 2, 2013 by WolfgangJT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kush Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) I'm thinking of buying this man,and just use the CAWs for personal use.How exactly does it work? And is there a tutorial for what size,format etc. to make the pics i want imported? You do, eh? So that's not you over on caws.ws forums posting Sandman and Raven? o_O http://caws.ws/forum/topic/456390-kush-and-anti-present-ecfkingw-hd-pics-added-of-raven/ You oughta be more on the side of the makers, seeing you post too.. For future CAWs man. Edited December 2, 2013 by Kush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfgangJT Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) I'm thinking of buying this man,and just use the CAWs for personal use.How exactly does it work? And is there a tutorial for what size,format etc. to make the pics i want imported? You do, eh? So that's not you over on caws.ws forums posting Sandman and Raven? o_O http://caws.ws/forum/topic/456390-kush-and-anti-present-ecfkingw-hd-pics-added-of-raven/ You oughta be more on the side of the makers, seeing you post too.. For future CAWs man. Exactly, defeating the purpose of it in the first place. Easy way to put it....what is the point of releasing a tool that can import textures to be used on creations if in the end, it's end result is no creations can be released? So let me see if I get this, he creates a tool to be used for a CAWing community, then tells the community they are no longer allowed to share the creations if they use it and can only use it for their own personal game, thus getting rid of the very community it was created to be used by...and this is supposed to get people to use it how? Edited December 2, 2013 by WolfgangJT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kush Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm thinking of buying this man,and just use the CAWs for personal use.How exactly does it work? And is there a tutorial for what size,format etc. to make the pics i want imported? You do, eh? So that's not you over on caws.ws forums posting Sandman and Raven? o_O http://caws.ws/forum/topic/456390-kush-and-anti-present-ecfkingw-hd-pics-added-of-raven/ You oughta be more on the side of the makers, seeing you post too.. For future CAWs man. Exactly, defeating the purpose of it in the first place. Easy way to put it....what is the point of releasing a tool that can import textures to be used on creations if in the end, it's end result is no creations can be released? So let me see if I get this, he creates a tool to be used for a CAWing community, then tells the community they are no longer allowed to share the creations if they use it and can only use it for their own personal game, thus getting rid of the very community it was created to be used by...and this is supposed to get people to use it how? Yeah i do agree with you man,but i want to make some CAWs for my universe and i got some textures that i want to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rooster Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Also i've got another question will this work on windows 8? Windows 8 LOL People wont buy this tool if they can share their creations. KG is trying to maximise sales by forcing everybody to have a copy of the tool but it wont work. I dont make CAWs so why would I buy it. The people who do create CAWs are your target audience and they will only buy it if they can share the CAWs with people like me who dont make CAWs. You may get a few sales to people who just want to make CAWs for personal use but it will be very few. Whats funny? Windows 8 its a fucking joke! I gotta agree with WolfgangJT, not only will this tool not help the CAW community, it will kill it. CAW creators will stop releasing caws because if they have the tool they will want to use it to make the best CAWs they can but then the CAWs cant be released. Why would you make a non textured CAW to release to the community if you have the ability to make a better looking textured CAW and keep it to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kush Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Also i've got another question will this work on windows 8? Windows 8 LOL People wont buy this tool if they can share their creations. KG is trying to maximise sales by forcing everybody to have a copy of the tool but it wont work. I dont make CAWs so why would I buy it. The people who do create CAWs are your target audience and they will only buy it if they can share the CAWs with people like me who dont make CAWs. You may get a few sales to people who just want to make CAWs for personal use but it will be very few. Whats funny? Windows 8 its a fucking joke! I gotta agree with WolfgangJT, not only will this tool not help the CAW community, it will kill it. CAW creators will stop releasing caws because if they have the tool they will want to use it to make the best CAWs they can but then the CAWs cant be released. Why would you make a non textured CAW to release to the community if you have the ability to make a better looking textured CAW and keep it to yourself. I have to agree with you about Windows 8,but thats all a nigga can afford man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjSim Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 K.G said he was reconsidering the TOS so hopefully looking at the feedback he will understand how bad of an idea making the caws that have used textures (made possible via his tool) non-shareable actually is. I can only speak for myself here but having such a tool without said restrictions would help speed things up my end considerably and as a result more caws from our team would be ready much faster...if ya wanna see what we are capable of go check out the nCo topics. You'd really want to be the one responsible for future creations of such quality not being shared or even possible to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan87 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Nice tool man. Good to see people modding other parts of the game. Thank you ^^ @Dbo2700 What do you mean by "Caw injector" ? if you mean take a caw from one save to put it in another, then yes it has. It is called CAW Manager. @HarlotEffect93 I'm sorry, but these are the terms, I can't allow caw sharing, because one can buy the tool, mod the caw with custom logo, and share it. Then thousands of people will get the caw with custom logo and didn't pay for the tool. It's like The music industry. One guy buys the album, and then upload it on internet so people can download it free. The artist is screwed over. It's the same thing. I have a questioon for you K.G: since i wanted to upload caws to CC in order to redownload them just to have the logos without taking one logo slot, is there any way to have the logos on your trunks or pants, then erasing them to have space for other logos and simultaneously have them in your caw? Bbut what can i do.... since nobody is willing to upload images for me.... Edited December 2, 2013 by dk7878 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfgangJT Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) K.G said he was reconsidering the TOS so hopefully looking at the feedback he will understand how bad of an idea making the caws that have used textures (made possible via his tool) non-shareable actually is. I can only speak for myself here but having such a tool without said restrictions would help speed things up my end considerably and as a result more caws from our team would be ready much faster...if ya wanna see what we are capable of go check out the nCo topics. You'd really want to be the one responsible for future creations of such quality not being shared or even possible to begin with? Oh trust me, I can explain all this to him, but not sure if I'll lose him with my IT contracts and sales knowledge...all I can say is forget about comparing to the music industry (which is dumb in the first place, as if mp3.com and other mp3 sharing sites still don't exist). A comparison to software in the corporate world would be a better idea...where a company buys one copy of the software, but is allowed to distribute to X amount of computers based on a contract known as a software license (which can also have different purchase levels based on the amount of users with very large discounted rates). And that's getting on the overboard side for something like this...but a much closer comparison. Edited December 2, 2013 by WolfgangJT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarlotEffect Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 K.G said he was reconsidering the TOS so hopefully looking at the feedback he will understand how bad of an idea making the caws that have used textures (made possible via his tool) non-shareable actually is. I can only speak for myself here but having such a tool without said restrictions would help speed things up my end considerably and as a result more caws from our team would be ready much faster...if ya wanna see what we are capable of go check out the nCo topics. You'd really want to be the one responsible for future creations of such quality not being shared or even possible to begin with? Oh trust me, I can explain all this to him, but not sure if I'll lose him with my IT contracts and sales knowledge...all I can say is forget about comparing to the music industry (which is dumb in the first place, as if mp3.com and other mp3 sharing sites still don't exist). A comparison to software in the corporate world would be a better idea...where a company buys one copy of the software, but is allowed to distribute to X amount of computers based on a contract known as a software license (which can also have different purchase levels based on the amount of users with very large discounted rates). Exactly Wolfie, It's like when my sis got her Microsoft office student, she installed it, then I installed it. Without me even paying for it. Brien even said himself during 2012 that it's a little useless selling a tool for a game. Since people will generally try and pirate it. And you'd lose more money with all bullshit restrictions and a high price for one little feature which is new. A normal mod tool has been made for nothing, which does the bog standard name changes etc but now KG is a save editor with a PT editor, and a CAW manager/injector for £10/$18. It's not worth that much for two features, compared to this free tool. Also the T&C cuts down on the sharing, which is what we've done with CAWs for years. Also seeing modded PT shared online and what not, would make people think. "ohh how did ___ do that?" then they find the tool and buy it. Thus creating another sale. Since seeing them used on a CAW is free advertising. I'd also just knock down the price a little bit, even if you still want to charge for the tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan87 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 K.G said he was reconsidering the TOS so hopefully looking at the feedback he will understand how bad of an idea making the caws that have used textures (made possible via his tool) non-shareable actually is. I can only speak for myself here but having such a tool without said restrictions would help speed things up my end considerably and as a result more caws from our team would be ready much faster...if ya wanna see what we are capable of go check out the nCo topics. You'd really want to be the one responsible for future creations of such quality not being shared or even possible to begin with? Oh trust me, I can explain all this to him, but not sure if I'll lose him with my IT contracts and sales knowledge...all I can say is forget about comparing to the music industry (which is dumb in the first place, as if mp3.com and other mp3 sharing sites still don't exist). A comparison to software in the corporate world would be a better idea...where a company buys one copy of the software, but is allowed to distribute to X amount of computers based on a contract known as a software license (which can also have different purchase levels based on the amount of users with very large discounted rates). Exactly Wolfie, It's like when my sis got her Microsoft office student, she installed it, then I installed it. Without me even paying for it. Brien even said himself during 2012 that it's a little useless selling a tool for a game. Since people will generally try and pirate it. And you'd lose more money with all bullshit restrictions and a high price for one little feature which is new. A normal mod tool has been made for nothing, which does the bog standard name changes etc but now KG is a save editor with a PT editor, and a CAW manager/injector for £10/$18. It's not worth that much for two features, compared to this free tool. Also the T&C cuts down on the sharing, which is what we've done with CAWs for years. Also seeing modded PT shared online and what not, would make people think. "ohh how did ___ do that?" then they find the tool and buy it. Thus creating another sale. Since seeing them used on a CAW is free advertising. I'd also just knock down the price a little bit, even if you still want to charge for the tool. The problem is that netiher brienj nor pure rafex are going to make tools this year, and i dont find anybody wiling to upload for me the images.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Pete® Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Drop the sharing bollocks, peeps will buy it, you make a couple er quid, the community get great caws faster and more! win, win, win! Edited December 2, 2013 by Big Pete™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbo2700 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Actually... I could have swore I saw Pur3 saying he was working on something. I could have misinterpreted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarlotEffect Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Drop the sharing bollocks, peeps will buy it, you make a couple er quid, the community get great caws! win, win, win! Well maybe knock the price down a little first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHippopotomus Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Just my 2 cents. We are already importing textures into the game, I don't see the point in even considering this unless the ridiculous restrictions are removed. Essentially all this tool does is remove the middle man, but we HAVE a middle man (Like 3 of them) so ultimately we don't even NEED the tool it would just make life a little easier. Personally I don't think what it does is worth more than $5 but if you have people willing to pay you $18 for something they can already do, I say quit being greedy and let them release the CAWs. I don't see more than a handful of people buying this so at least you could get the satisfaction of making a bunch of people happy with the result of your creation and justify the time spent making the tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarlotEffect Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Just my 2 cents. We are already importing textures into the game, I don't see the point in even considering this unless the ridiculous restrictions are removed. Essentially all this tool does is remove the middle man, but we HAVE a middle man (Like 3 of them) so ultimately we don't even NEED the tool it would just make life a little easier. Personally I don't think what it does is worth more than $5 but if you have people willing to pay you $18 for something they can already do, I say quit being greedy and let them release the CAWs. I don't see more than a handful of people buying this so at least you could get the satisfaction of making a bunch of people happy with the result of your creation and justify the time spent making the tool. Exactly it's worth about that much. Then plenty of people would buy the tool and money would be made. Probably more than charging it $18/£10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kush Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) I know i said i was thinking of buying this i still not sure.But you should let CAWs be released its not like we will be handing niggas the logos.You know what i mean? Edited December 2, 2013 by Kush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piper Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 $18 & you cant share CAWS using this tool? Na I'm good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rooster Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 $18 & you cant share CAWS using this tool? Na I'm good Yup, boycott this shit people unless the CAW sharing restriction is removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarlotEffect Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I guess it'll be changed if we complain enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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