K.G Posted December 2, 2013 Author Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Id like to see the pt feature in a video to see if the program really does it. The link of the video is in the description of the youtube video. @ AjSim I see your point. However I'm not a studio, and I don't get thousands for just 1 tool like they do with one artist lol. The money the artist gives to the studio is ok for them to rentabilize the cost of their equipement. Well, 10€ doesn't :-) Edited December 2, 2013 by K.G
Dbo2700 Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 I just think that runs off your target customer. You should not allow the logo to be shared, not the caw.
K.G Posted December 2, 2013 Author Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) I just think that runs off your target customer. You should not allow the logo to be shared, not the caw. I think it's more complicated than that. Because: someone may just ask someone to upload a caw for him with a said logo in it. This way he got the logo. And that would be the same as sharing the logo. Edited December 2, 2013 by K.G
Dbo2700 Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 No no Sir. You can't take logos off of caws. If you try to even change the caw, all the custom PTs will delete. I've tried.
Twistedmisery666™ Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 No no Sir. You can't take logos off of caws. If you try to even change the caw, all the custom PTs will delete. I've tried. This dude is telling the truth cuz the logo is somehow embedded to caw, you change it they will all be deleted.
K.G Posted December 2, 2013 Author Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) No no Sir. You can't take logos off of caws. If you try to even change the caw, all the custom PTs will delete. I've tried. You talk about Creation Community CAWs ? if yes then, what about user created caws that we can change from one save to another ? those don't have editing restriction I think Can't remove logos from a CAW Not removing the logos, but editing the caw itself, and keep the logo ? Edited December 2, 2013 by Judders
Dbo2700 Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Nope! You can not do either of those things. I'm a jtag owner. If the logo is on a shirt, you delete the shirt, the logo is deleted. If you take caw and try add things like other logos, all the logos it came with will delete. Nor can you copy and paste a logo from one caw to another.
Dbo2700 Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Try it yourself. Create a PT, put it on a caw, then delete the PT from your 20 logos. Then go into that caw again and try to take the logo. Edited December 2, 2013 by Dbo2700
Judders Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Belts aren't uploadable, so wouldn't make a difference.
HarlotEffect Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Also no one really asks for a blank CAW with the logo anyways. It's normally just the logo they want. Also what about if CAW makers collab on stuff? Like what the nCo do,and what if the other person can't use the software (Like if they have a Mac, Linux or the wrong OS) Everyone would leave credit to you and such which would give free advertisement. Edited December 2, 2013 by HarlotEffect93
K.G Posted December 2, 2013 Author Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Well thank you all for the info. It clears out alot on how the logo is bound to the CAW. What my problem is now, is the sharing thing itself that is the issue. Someone (lets calll it John) can provide one of my customer (Ted) his custom picture and ask him to inject it into his caw for him. John wants jeff hardy's face texture, so he provides Ted the face texture and Ted give him the caw. This way it's not technically sharing the Logo, It's sharing the caw. And if I change the terms to what you guys want it to be changed, this would be perfectly ok to do what Ted did. Ted would still be respecting the terms. And won't be banned. However its not ok, it's the same as sharing the logo, so I can't change the terms if we think of it this way. What I would need to do to fit your expectations (you guys), but also to protect my work, is to come up with new terms for this particular part of the tool, so that what Ted did won't be accepted and as a result he'd be banned from using the tool. Sorry for the all this BS, lol So if you have any idea on what a new term can be, then let me know. Also no one really asks for a blank CAW with the logo anyways. It's normally just the logo they want. You wouldn't believe what ppl could accept to get things free. If ppl don't have the right OS, then they can't buy the tool. If someone buy a tool, it uses it for only one person, which can be himself or someone else, but not both. Edited December 2, 2013 by K.G
AjSim Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Id like to see the pt feature in a video to see if the program really does it. The link of the video is in the description of the youtube video. @ AjSim I see your point. However I'm not a studio, and I don't get thousands for just 1 tool like they do with one artist lol. The money the artist gives to the studio is ok for them to rentabilize the cost of their equipement. Well, 10€ doesn't :-) LOL..I was using the metaphor you used earlier as an example, I ain't really got that good of a voice either tbh Point is if your aim is to make money you still will, just with the rules you've set probably not as much...not being able to upload caws that have textures created with the use of your tool kind of defeats the object in it being possible in the first place. I'm honestly trying to help you here...I for one would be willing to pay for the tool providing I can share the finished creations...caws not logos. If not then it will be an opportunity missed and will probably push creators closer to the next gen sooner than otherwise planned, ultimately it will be the community that miss out.
K.G Posted December 2, 2013 Author Posted December 2, 2013 Id like to see the pt feature in a video to see if the program really does it. The link of the video is in the description of the youtube video. @ AjSim I see your point. However I'm not a studio, and I don't get thousands for just 1 tool like they do with one artist lol. The money the artist gives to the studio is ok for them to rentabilize the cost of their equipement. Well, 10€ doesn't :-) LOL..I was using the metaphor you used earlier as an example, I ain't really got that good of a voice either tbh Point is if your aim is to make money you still will, just with the rules you've set probably not as much...not being able to upload caws that have textures created with the use of your tool kind of defeats the object in it being possible in the first place. I'm honestly trying to help you here...I for one would be willing to pay for the tool providing I can share the finished creations...caws not logos. If not then it will be an opportunity missed and will probably push creators closer to the next gen sooner than otherwise planned, ultimately it will be the community that miss out. Right now, I'm more on the "ok for caws community" side. If you read the post above yours, I explain what I need right now to allow what you want to do.
Dbo2700 Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Thank you so much KG. You might recognize my user name, I've purchased your tool before. Great work!
jcsix Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 No no Sir. You can't take logos off of caws. If you try to even change the caw, all the custom PTs will delete. I've tried. So say if I download a caw, and want to remove a custom PT tat they used on him (As he never had it when he was younger). All other PT logos will be deleted?
HarlotEffect Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Id like to see the pt feature in a video to see if the program really does it. The link of the video is in the description of the youtube video. @ AjSim I see your point. However I'm not a studio, and I don't get thousands for just 1 tool like they do with one artist lol. The money the artist gives to the studio is ok for them to rentabilize the cost of their equipement. Well, 10€ doesn't :-) LOL..I was using the metaphor you used earlier as an example, I ain't really got that good of a voice either tbh Point is if your aim is to make money you still will, just with the rules you've set probably not as much...not being able to upload caws that have textures created with the use of your tool kind of defeats the object in it being possible in the first place. I'm honestly trying to help you here...I for one would be willing to pay for the tool providing I can share the finished creations...caws not logos. If not then it will be an opportunity missed and will probably push creators closer to the next gen sooner than otherwise planned, ultimately it will be the community that miss out. Right now, I'm more on the "ok for caws community" side. If you read the post above yours, I explain what I need right now to allow what you want to do. So if someone then requests for a modded paint tool it's a no no. But what if you work on a CAW together like the nCo, how would that work? Since you do get people doing that a lot nowadays. I know there's a load of questions, but these are normally what happens with CAW making. Edited December 2, 2013 by HarlotEffect93
Dbo2700 Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 No but the problem isn't deleting a PT. He's okay with that. He's worried about another user taking that PT and creating something else or adding it to another caw. Say I have a Hardy caw made by NCO, if you want to take off his tattoos that's fine, but if you delete everything but his face texture, then try to create another outfit, when you add a pt sleeve, the face texture will delete.
tich Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 next year i'll make people pay for my caws, mods, advice or help since now everything is about money..........
Big Pete® Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) next year i'll make people pay for my caws, mods, advice or help since now everything is about money..........lol exactly... its like peeps saying I aint gonna share my caw to cc because i made it on my time unless you pay... pffffftttt! Edited December 2, 2013 by Big Pete™
Petchy Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 A special Christmas time offer for my CAWs, ONLY £10 a request! Hey, I don't want anyone else using them if they haven't paid, that'd be too kind In all seriousness, congrats if you have managed to make PT injection work again for retail users but the terms of use are ridiculous and renders the feature pointless.
Kush Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 I'm thinking of buying this man,and just use the CAWs for personal use.How exactly does it work? And is there a tutorial for what size,format etc. to make the pics i want imported?
AjSim Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 I'm thinking of buying this man,and just use the CAWs for personal use.How exactly does it work? And is there a tutorial for what size,format etc. to make the pics i want imported? The clues are there fella...view it on youtube and check the vid linked in the description. However as it's nearly Christmas and I'm feeling charitable I'll save you 5 mins of your life - DDS 8.8.8.8 ARGB 32 bpp | unsigned...put simply the format used in 12/13.
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