[Breaking News] Cory Ledesma officially leaves 2K and WWE Games

[the King Lives]

 

 

guys c'mon wtf are you complaining about??? if he has lost his job who gives a fk ???

 

I sort of give a fk. I don't want people to lose their jobs. It's hard enough to make ends meet with a job these days.

  i agree, no1 deserves to lose they're job IF they are doing it well.... but i'm sorry, maybe it was a budget problem but NO developer that worked on WWE games over the past 3 or so years could say they did they're job well. It MAY not directly have been their fault but we were still given pretty much the same game every year in a new box.

 

I'm a guy with a marketing background myself and if sum1 gave me a bullshit product to sell over and over again. that's just making MY job harder. imagine how hard it was for the marketing guys to sell that crap, they had to try to make MINOR changes and bug fixes look like a big deal! the real hard workers were the guys doing all the marketing...   

cory only did what he was told from THQ execs. you seem to not understand that.. but just cause you don't get something that you like IE triple threat tag matches or 5 jobbers you say he's not doing his job? I hope one day you lose your job even though you are doing everything you can to do it right.. See how much sense that DOES NOT MAKE?

[Bob_Van_Dam]

I don't think this means he lost his job.

[the King Lives]

 

I don't think this means he lost his job.

 

i'm thinking he resigned..

reason is bc of the fact that VC is located in Sanfranciso he lives in LA and maybe didn't want to relocate

[UndertakerWLF]

the way this community is treating him is mindboggling to me.. if it wasn't for him alot of the stuff we've had in the game might not have come to pass.. did you ever think that next year might just end up being a bare bones game? you're complaining about stuff like create an arena etc but you just might not have it at all if VC takes over. Especially if the rumor that Yukes is gone as well is true. Yukes owns the current engine and everything that's been implemented over the last few games. Think about it

 

 

To this very day I still think that if it were not for modders we would not have some of the features we have in the game today..

[the King Lives]

 

the way this community is treating him is mindboggling to me.. if it wasn't for him alot of the stuff we've had in the game might not have come to pass.. did you ever think that next year might just end up being a bare bones game? you're complaining about stuff like create an arena etc but you just might not have it at all if VC takes over. Especially if the rumor that Yukes is gone as well is true. Yukes owns the current engine and everything that's been implemented over the last few games. Think about it

 

 

To this very day I still think that if it were not for modders we would not have some of the features we have in the game today..  

i beg to differ. custom trons were made because people asked for them. Custom paint tool logos because people asked for them. create an arena cause people asked for it

[best in the world]

To be quite honest, Ledesma never struck me as a wrestling/entertainment fan and he was just some oblivious guy working on a video game.  He doesn't seem to have the people skills required when dealing with wrestling fans, so this is good news.  I personally thought the first couple of Yukes/THQ games that were released before Cory joined the team were better and had more effort in them.  As for Yukes being rumored to be leaving as well, that could be a blessing in disguise.  Think about it: fans have been asking for a new game engine for years and now, if this is true, we may get just that.  Besides everyone knew going into this year's game[WWE2K14] that we were probably getting more of the same with maybe some updates.  With WWE2K15, we may just get that overhaul and a complete re-working of WWE games altogether which will be a nice step in the right direction.  Especially with 2K's attention to detail, we might just get the upgrade into the next generation that WWE fans have been wanting in wrestling games.  I too, liked the old system but it is about due an update and critical changes need to be made in order to keep these games as realistic and as fun as possible. 

[DP1™]

Is there anything concrete yet? I'm actually quite excited, I've had him on my dartboard for years.

Lol

[Beardy]

No matter how much I just don't like the guy, I wouldn't want to see him lose his job, or anyone for that matter.

[Red Rooster]

if cory ledesma is gone I would like to official vote for aubrey sitterson to be promoted to cory's former job, aubrey desrves to be a creative manager or something along that line.

Oh my god, I hope you were joking, fuck that guy. 

Even though I dont know him personally, I hope bad things happen for Corey, he is a douche and deserves nothing but derision.

[jitz]

the way this community is treating him is mindboggling to me.. if it wasn't for him alot of the stuff we've had in the game might not have come to pass.. did you ever think that next year might just end up being a bare bones game? you're complaining about stuff like create an arena etc but you just might not have it at all if VC takes over. Especially if the rumor that Yukes is gone as well is true. Yukes owns the current engine and everything that's been implemented over the last few games. Think about it

This year's release was bare bones, very little was added or changed. I would assume a lot of the team was let go when the THQ money stopped and their future uncertain. 2K clearly didn't invest in WWE2K14, they just hired Yukes to finish the work they started and that's it. The reasoning is simple, next gen. Why invest in new engines and re-resourcing teams, when next years title will be PS4/XB1 and the current engine simply isn't up to the task. So 2K will have invested in that and been working on the frame work for the new game. So yeah next years game will be bare bones - new engine, all the models have to be redone not just recycled and animations have to be redone. Maybe Cory Ledesma was let go simply because there isn't a position for him a VC, he was just hired to finish the work with Yukes.

[LegitATTIRES]

Wished they got rid of Yukes.

[the King Lives]

 

the way this community is treating him is mindboggling to me.. if it wasn't for him alot of the stuff we've had in the game might not have come to pass.. did you ever think that next year might just end up being a bare bones game? you're complaining about stuff like create an arena etc but you just might not have it at all if VC takes over. Especially if the rumor that Yukes is gone as well is true. Yukes owns the current engine and everything that's been implemented over the last few games. Think about it

This year's release was bare bones, very little was added or changed. I would assume a lot of the team was let go when the THQ money stopped and their future uncertain. 2K clearly didn't invest in WWE2K14, they just hired Yukes to finish the work they started and that's it. The reasoning is simple, next gen. Why invest in new engines and re-resourcing teams, when next years title will be PS4/XB1 and the current engine simply isn't up to the task. So 2K will have invested in that and been working on the frame work for the new game. So yeah next years game will be bare bones - new engine, all the models have to be redone not just recycled and animations have to be redone. Maybe Cory Ledesma was let go simply because there isn't a position for him a VC, he was just hired to finish the work with Yukes.

 

 

You don't seem to be able to comprehend what Barebones is.  Barebones means Now Caw mode or more limited than it is now, No Universe, no Story mode, no caa no paint tool no create a moveset no create a finisher no story designer.  If we got a game where it's based upon just 2K and VC making the game and no yukes involvement at all,  and if 2K didn't purchase the Engine from Yukes, then we WILL NOT most likely have all those features.  Why anyone would want that to happen is beyond me.. but to each their own

Wished they got rid of Yukes.

See above for this ignorant post

[the King Lives]

To be quite honest, Ledesma never struck me as a wrestling/entertainment fan and he was just some oblivious guy working on a video game.  He doesn't seem to have the people skills required when dealing with wrestling fans, so this is good news.  I personally thought the first couple of Yukes/THQ games that were released before Cory joined the team were better and had more effort in them.  As for Yukes being rumored to be leaving as well, that could be a blessing in disguise.  Think about it: fans have been asking for a new game engine for years and now, if this is true, we may get just that.  Besides everyone knew going into this year's game[WWE2K14] that we were probably getting more of the same with maybe some updates.  With WWE2K15, we may just get that overhaul and a complete re-working of WWE games altogether which will be a nice step in the right direction.  Especially with 2K's attention to detail, we might just get the upgrade into the next generation that WWE fans have been wanting in wrestling games.  I too, liked the old system but it is about due an update and critical changes need to be made in order to keep these games as realistic and as fun as possible. 

no, actually Cory and Bryan are both huge wrestling fans.. Tank was the one that actually was not the wrestling fan

[The 4th Doctor]

good if he is gone no more of his dumb ledesma logic ie the uso's don't get in the game but Outnga does

[the King Lives]

good if he is gone no more of his dumb ledesma logic ie the uso's don't get in the game but Outnga does

ummm you do realize that wwe decides the roster and not the development team right? plus at the time the Usos were mot being used at all hardly.  They didn't get their push till around may. (SN: Last time i post anymore comments in here regarding this thread as it's ridiculous)

[datkido]

 

guys c'mon wtf are you complaining about??? if he has lost his job who gives a fk ??? Just look at nba 2k and its development in the past few years in comparison to WWE Games. Do you really think 2K are gonna fuck up this game? They took control late last year and look at the difference already with this year's game (still not perfect but it FINALLY feels like steps have been made in the right direction, without sacrificing something major that we loved).

 

Personally I don't mind if they got rid of every single person associated with previous games, we might end up with a fairly basic game to start with but i'm 100% confident that within 2-3 years it will be better than anything we EVER had, especially on next gen.

 

Fk corey ledesma! especially since the cunt put his full name in the creation suite when far more common names like LUKE and HARPER are missing! who the fk are gonna wanna create him??? From the tweet i doubt he's lost his job, but if he has good riddance... Guy was fully taking advantage of the lack of competition in wrestling games.

 

you are really slow... 2k didn't have a presence in the game other than promotion. this game was a thq game. people like you are really sadAre u serious??? People like me??? You don't even know me! and I'm self employed so im not about to lose anything anytime soon! It's people like you why companies get away with putting out sub par products because you accept it! Instead of opening ur eyes and realising that consumers are the ones with the power. but there will always be dumbasses like you that accept shit, so we will keep getting shit! Don't presume you know me, because you really don't

Do you see me complaining about jobbers... EVER??? No! Also I'm slow??? That's why I'm a self employed, privately educated, 26 year old. Seriously dude... Don't come on here all high and mighty acting like you know people... It's just ignorant.

Edited November 9, 2013 by datkido

[the King Lives]

 

 

guys c'mon wtf are you complaining about??? if he has lost his job who gives a fk ??? Just look at nba 2k and its development in the past few years in comparison to WWE Games. Do you really think 2K are gonna fuck up this game? They took control late last year and look at the difference already with this year's game (still not perfect but it FINALLY feels like steps have been made in the right direction, without sacrificing something major that we loved).

 

Personally I don't mind if they got rid of every single person associated with previous games, we might end up with a fairly basic game to start with but i'm 100% confident that within 2-3 years it will be better than anything we EVER had, especially on next gen.

 

Fk corey ledesma! especially since the cunt put his full name in the creation suite when far more common names like LUKE and HARPER are missing! who the fk are gonna wanna create him??? From the tweet i doubt he's lost his job, but if he has good riddance... Guy was fully taking advantage of the lack of competition in wrestling games.

 

you are really slow... 2k didn't have a presence in the game other than promotion. this game was a thq game. people like you are really sadAre u serious??? People like me??? You don't even know me! and I'm self employed so im not about to lose anything anytime soon! It's people like you why companies get away with putting out sub par products because you accept it! Instead of opening ur eyes and realising that consumers are the ones with the power. but there will always be dumbasses like you that accept shit, so we will keep getting shit! Don't presume you know me, because you really don't

Do you see me complaining about jobbers... EVER??? No! Also I'm slow??? That's why I'm a self employed, privately educated, 26 year old. Seriously dude... Don't come on here all high and mighty acting like you know people... It's just ignorant.  

obviously you think you know everything because you're a big shot and don't have anyone to answer to. Maybe if you did, you'd see that everything can't just be blamed on the wwegames team. What part of "THEY HAD TO DO AS THEY WERE TOLD BY THQ" don't you understand?

[jitz]

I know what barebones means, my reply was a tongue in cheek remark about the lack of inclusions this year. And yes, next year everything will be rolled back to a core experience due to development time and constraints. Time to get to grips with it. Now continue to defend whoever you're defending for whatever reason, Cory, Yukes, THQ, everyone involved. 

[Caveman Gamer]

if cory ledesma is gone I would like to official vote for aubrey sitterson to be promoted to cory's former job, aubrey desrves to be a creative manager or something along that line.

Please tell me this is a joke... it has to be right?  Aubrey the guy whose answer to a glitch was "you guys are just playing the game wrong" and "its not a glitch, it is an intentional design"?  That guy?  The guy who is a comic book editor and knows nothing about game development or design?  That guy?  No thanks.  I think Cory accomplished as much as he could with the budget and support he was given. I wouldn't mind seeing what he could do with the support of 2k.  I also wouldn't mind seeing what Bryan could do.  Even Marcus was also part designer for the game when he was the social media manager. I also won't mind seeing a fresh take on it as long as they don't start from scratch.  That would be like the TNA game we got.  What I would mind is Aubrey having any more to do with this game than he already does.  

[best in the world]

 

To be quite honest, Ledesma never struck me as a wrestling/entertainment fan and he was just some oblivious guy working on a video game.  He doesn't seem to have the people skills required when dealing with wrestling fans, so this is good news.  I personally thought the first couple of Yukes/THQ games that were released before Cory joined the team were better and had more effort in them.  As for Yukes being rumored to be leaving as well, that could be a blessing in disguise.  Think about it: fans have been asking for a new game engine for years and now, if this is true, we may get just that.  Besides everyone knew going into this year's game[WWE2K14] that we were probably getting more of the same with maybe some updates.  With WWE2K15, we may just get that overhaul and a complete re-working of WWE games altogether which will be a nice step in the right direction.  Especially with 2K's attention to detail, we might just get the upgrade into the next generation that WWE fans have been wanting in wrestling games.  I too, liked the old system but it is about due an update and critical changes need to be made in order to keep these games as realistic and as fun as possible. 

no, actually Cory and Bryan are both huge wrestling fans.. Tank was the one that actually was not the wrestling fan

 

 That very well may be.  But you can tell that Bryan is a huge wrestling fan and very passionate about the product.  It shows in every interview or live stream he was included in.  Cory, on the other hand, was the polar opposite.  He never seemed enthusiastic or felt the slightest joy in anything he did whether it was appearing on brief video interviews or otherwise.  Honestly, I think 2K would do well to put Bryan in charge and let him take over Cory's job.  Bryan is knowledgeable and obviously invested into the product so much that he promotes it like crazy and actually listens to what most fans have to say without coming off like a self-righteous douche!  Sorry, bro!  I usually agree with what you post on here but this isn't one of those occasions.  Cory has held back WWE games for awhile now and having him gone will help bring them back to being what they were before he joined; all about the games and less about the people making them.....

Edited November 9, 2013 by best in the world

[UnderTaker1784]

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WWE has offered up some of the first comments about the transfer of its wrestling rights to new owner Take-Two Interactive.

As previously mentioned, 2K will publish all WWE titles going forward after THQ sold its assets last month. A new five-year deal is in place.

Fans can look forward to the next title, known as WWE 2K14 (as opposed to WWE ’14), this fall. Yukes will remain as the primary developer behind the annual wrestling releases, but Visual Concepts will assist the studio from here on out.

According to WWE executive VP of consumer products Casey Collins:

 

“We looked at a lot of different leaders in the industry and talked to all of the big guys, and for us, we had been with THQ for so many years, it was nice to finally go out and date a few other companies and see what kind of thought process they had about the video game industry going forward. As we look at the next-gen systems coming out, whether that’s this holiday or next holiday, we want to make sure we align our property with who we thought would be a leader going forward on these next-gen systems. With Yukes, we have a lot of history, and we’ve been very happy with what Yukes has done in the past. What we’re going to do moving forward is meld Yukes with the team at Visual Concepts, so we can have the best of both worlds. Having Yukes’ experience and then getting the Visual Concepts guys on board with them, we think this is going to be a dynamic duo.”

 

 

The new WWE game-making team will include “some of the key designers behind the WWE gaming franchise” from THQ. Additionally, “the THQ Fight Team is also being brought over, and they’ll report directly to Visual Concepts. Their experience in the marketing, their experience in the development, their experience with our franchise for years. We thought that it was very valuable to keep that continuity.”

 

SOURCE:

 

http://nintendoeverything.com/wwe-2k14-coming-this-fall-yukes-and-visual-concepts-working-together/

 

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After months of speculation, rumors and fierce negotiations, Take-Two Interactive has officially acquired the exclusive rights to the WWE video game license for the next five years and will publish the popular wrestling franchise as part of its 2K Sports brand.

Video game publisher THQ, which has held the exclusive WWE gaming rights since 1999, was forced to sell its assets after the U.S. Bankruptcy Court struck down its potential sale to Clearlake Capital Group in January.

Prior to the court’s ruling, however, THQ and WWE held a private bid for the wrestling franchise, and according to Casey Collins, WWE’s executive vice president of consumer products, the bidding process was more about finding the right partner than grabbing the most cash.

“We’ve looked at the WWE franchise with respect for a long time,” said Argent. “There are a lot of similarities that we see, from the size of the franchise to the demographics of the franchise, and they fit in very well with what we’ve done with NBA in terms of development and marketing. We thought we could add tremendous value right off the bat and down the road. We’re super excited to get an agreement in place.” “We looked at a lot of different leaders in the industry and talked to all of the big guys, and for us, we had been with THQ for so many years, it was nice to finally go out and date a few other companies and see what kind of thought process they had about the video game industry going forward,” Collins told ESPN Tuesday in an exclusive interview. “As we look at the next-gen systems coming out, whether that’s this holiday or next holiday, we want to make sure we align our property with who we thought would be a leader going forward on these next-gen systems.”

Collins and the WWE leaders were particularly impressed by what Take-Two has done with the “NBA 2K” franchise.

“The work they do, and the quality of the games they put out and how they’ve been able to grow their franchise with not only the simulation aspect of the game, but also the entertainment aspect, we thought they’d be a perfect partner,” Collins said.

To 2K Sports’ vice president of marketing, Jason Argent, this was a good fit in terms of what the company envisions for WWE video games moving forward.


As part of the five-year deal (financial terms were not disclosed), Take-Two has not only hired some of the key designers behind the WWE gaming franchise from THQ to work hand in hand with 2K Sports’ game design team at Visual Concepts, but has also agreed to bring back longtime WWE games developer Yukes from Japan to continue pushing ahead with the development of “WWE 14,” ensuring the new game will hit its fall 2013 release window.

“With Yukes, we have a lot of history, and we’ve been very happy with what Yukes has done in the past,” said Collins. “What we’re going to do moving forward is meld Yukes with the team at Visual Concepts, so we can have the best of both worlds. Having Yukes’ experience and then getting the Visual Concepts guys on board with them, we think this is going to be a dynamic duo.

“The THQ Fight Team is also being brought over, and they’ll report directly to Visual Concepts. Their experience in the marketing, their experience in the development, their experience with our franchise for years … we thought that it was very valuable to keep that continuity.”

Now that “WWE 14” is under the 2K Sports umbrella, look for the game to also feature a slight change in name.

Coming this fall: “WWE 2K14.”

“Now that we have the deal done, we have a lot of internal meetings with Take-Two, Yukes and Visual Concepts,” Collins said. “Everyone is going to come to the table and talk about how we can really ratchet this game up for this year.”

Added Argent: “Everything that we’ve done with NBA is what we’re trying to contribute to WWE. So the growth that you’ve see in the NBA franchise from the authenticity in the game to the excitement of the marketing that surrounds it is all something we expect to add to the franchise. We’re going to create one hell of a video game franchise.”

 

SOURCE:

http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/tech/post/_/id/4228/wwe-take-two-agree-to-deal-on-wwe-2k#more

 

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MY IMPUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

yes so this confirms too things, aubrey's tweet about going to san francisco to work at vc, and it also confirms that yukes is apart of the entire deal all 5 years and that yukes and visual concepts will be working and molded together to create a dinamic duo, and I think

they are getting ready for the change over to the duo for next year and beyond, and I think cory left, he was probobly offered

the same opertunity as aubrey to go to 2k sports and vc in san francisco but he prob turn it down cause he did not want to relocate, and I estimate that half the people from the former 2k team may half took the opertunity to go to san fran to 2k vc, while I feel another half of the team declined the offer and they will simply be replaced by individuals that already at vc or individuals that vc will hire. So do you think that this is to get ready for visual concepts and yukes to work together on all the future titles as indicated.

Edited November 9, 2013 by UnderTaker1784

[UnderTaker1784]

any feedback ^ ?

[Alex™]

Yukes + VC + 2K + Bryan Willams = WWE Game ???? Awesomeness

[NICO4]

Finally, about time!

[King Paulie]

Whats with the guy whos defending Cory in this thread with all his might? Lol..I was never the "oh my gawddd, Cory Ledesma you've ruined my gameee!!" type. But after all the years of playing these games since Smackdown on the PS1, I realize that there were some good decisions and bad decisions made. And recently, many of Cory's decisions have produced some rather lackluster results, therefore if he's gone, great. That opens the doors to a lot more possibilities with the next game.

 

 

IF he truly is gone though, I highly doubt 2k will have that hard of time recreating a proper wrestling sim. They're great at doing it with other forms of sports, therefore I have confidence they'll make it as realistic as can be along with the stellar gameplay 2k games are known for. And now that we're almost certain Yukes will be back, 2k still has the core game engine. Though that too, needs to be changed and completely overhauled. 

 

 

TL;DR: 2k's got this.