CAF/CASM are fixed... mostly

[Caveman Gamer]

I asked someone with the game to create a Killswitch and assign it as Christian's second finisher.  Then he tested to see how many regular Killswitches it takes to get a guy into red and it was three.  He did the same thing with a created Killswitch and it was 4.  So its not equal, but it is no where near as bad as last year.  

[BrotchMrToast]

They probably didn't made it just as strong as the real Finishers because there's still the possibility you put it in as a signature, or something like that.

[Caveman Gamer]

They probably didn't made it just as strong as the real Finishers because there's still the possibility you put it in as a signature, or something like that.

I can live with them being 3/4 as strong... just not 1/10 as strong like last year lol.

[BrotchMrToast]

They probably didn't made it just as strong as the real Finishers because there's still the possibility you put it in as a signature, or something like that.

I can live with them being 3/4 as strong... just not 1/10 as strong like last year lol.

LOL, exactly. It was easier to win a match of a strong grapple than a created Finisher, lol.

[Righteous]

Well, I can live with that. I hope the diving finishers are fixed as well. And the pin problems with the CAF's.

[the King Lives]

 

They probably didn't made it just as strong as the real Finishers because there's still the possibility you put it in as a signature, or something like that.

I can live with them being 3/4 as strong... just not 1/10 as strong like last year lol.

 

 

yeah thanks for that LOL i hope ddp's diamond cutter and diamond clash is still in LOL or i'll have to make them in CAF

[TheYoungLiar]

 

 

They probably didn't made it just as strong as the real Finishers because there's still the possibility you put it in as a signature, or something like that.

I can live with them being 3/4 as strong... just not 1/10 as strong like last year lol.

 

 

yeah thanks for that LOL i hope ddp's diamond cutter and diamond clash is still in LOL or i'll have to make them in CAF

 

I just hope that if the Diamond Cutter is in, then it's a catch finisher. No reason why the RKO can be but the Cutter can't, especially since DDP Diamond Cutter is the original "out of nowhere" finisher, and RKO is one of the most boring dumb names for a finisher.

[BrotchMrToast]

They probably didn't made it just as strong as the real Finishers because there's still the possibility you put it in as a signature, or something like that.

I can live with them being 3/4 as strong... just not 1/10 as strong like last year lol.

yeah thanks for that LOL i hope ddp's diamond cutter and diamond clash is still in LOL or i'll have to make them in CAF

I just hope that if the Diamond Cutter is in, then it's a catch finisher. No reason why the RKO can be but the Cutter can't, especially since DDP Diamond Cutter is the original "out of nowhere" finisher, and RKO is one of the most boring dumb names for a finisher.

All the Catch Finishers have been revealed, no Diamond Cutter...meh, just gonna put RKO as second Finisher, since he rarely did the Diamond Clash as a Finisher anyway, nobody will notice

[thisisjosh]

since the main point of difference between an RKO and a diamond cutter is the fact that the RKO jumps, it's gonna be a really small distinction for the jumping finishers- just 1 vs. 2 hands, I think?

[TheYoungLiar]

since the main point of difference between an RKO and a diamond cutter is the fact that the RKO jumps, it's gonna be a really small distinction for the jumping finishers- just 1 vs. 2 hands, I think?

Yeah Orton's is a one hand and DDP is 2 hand. I believe DDP learned the hold from Regal, who called it a "Cravat" i think.

 

The RKO never seemed damaging to me. It's pretty much just a guy falling with a hand on the back of his head. I always see people so amazed by that one RKO that Orton did on Evan Bourne, where Bourne went for a Shooting Star Press, and Orton Rko'd him as he came down, but Bourne would have taken the same amount of damage had he just missed Orton than with Orton doing a catch-RKO. What's even funnier is how low to the ground Orton catches him in it.

 

The Diamond Cutter on the other hand (and this isn't DDP fanboyism, as Bubba Dudley did a cutter as well that i really thought was a great move) looks way more damaging. It looks less like the guy is taking a dive while his head is held, and more like the person performing the finisher is dragging them down, and slamming them hard. The hold on the head is much more like a stunner, even though Stone Cold sometimes did it with one hand.

[the King Lives]

@ brotch i always give ddp the diamond clash as a sig

[Righteous]

RKO, Diamond Cutter are not Cravates. A Cravate is when you have your hands locked around someone's head/neck -- 1 wrist up, and the other wrist down. Cravat is French for neckband, I believe.

[thisisjosh]

Diamond cutter was originally a variant on the ace crusher, I think?

[sprouticus]

since the main point of difference between an RKO and a diamond cutter is the fact that the RKO jumps, it's gonna be a really small distinction for the jumping finishers- just 1 vs. 2 hands, I think?

Yeah Orton's is a one hand and DDP is 2 hand. I believe DDP learned the hold from Regal, who called it a "Cravat" i think.

 

The RKO never seemed damaging to me. It's pretty much just a guy falling with a hand on the back of his head. I always see people so amazed by that one RKO that Orton did on Evan Bourne, where Bourne went for a Shooting Star Press, and Orton Rko'd him as he came down, but Bourne would have taken the same amount of damage had he just missed Orton than with Orton doing a catch-RKO. What's even funnier is how low to the ground Orton catches him in it.

 

The Diamond Cutter on the other hand (and this isn't DDP fanboyism, as Bubba Dudley did a cutter as well that i really thought was a great move) looks way more damaging. It looks less like the guy is taking a dive while his head is held, and more like the person performing the finisher is dragging them down, and slamming them hard. The hold on the head is much more like a stunner, even though Stone Cold sometimes did it with one hand.

Yeah but its the suspension of disbeleif thing. Obviously some moves look more damaging then others. But the thing with the RKO is Randy hits it from anywhere. Thats what give s the move its impact. You dont really think about the 'actual damage' just that it has been hit from all angles.

The Peoples Elbow in reality is the stupidest finisher ever, but you go with it because you are in the moment

[TheYoungLiar]

 

 

since the main point of difference between an RKO and a diamond cutter is the fact that the RKO jumps, it's gonna be a really small distinction for the jumping finishers- just 1 vs. 2 hands, I think?

Yeah Orton's is a one hand and DDP is 2 hand. I believe DDP learned the hold from Regal, who called it a "Cravat" i think.

 

The RKO never seemed damaging to me. It's pretty much just a guy falling with a hand on the back of his head. I always see people so amazed by that one RKO that Orton did on Evan Bourne, where Bourne went for a Shooting Star Press, and Orton Rko'd him as he came down, but Bourne would have taken the same amount of damage had he just missed Orton than with Orton doing a catch-RKO. What's even funnier is how low to the ground Orton catches him in it.

 

The Diamond Cutter on the other hand (and this isn't DDP fanboyism, as Bubba Dudley did a cutter as well that i really thought was a great move) looks way more damaging. It looks less like the guy is taking a dive while his head is held, and more like the person performing the finisher is dragging them down, and slamming them hard. The hold on the head is much more like a stunner, even though Stone Cold sometimes did it with one hand.

Yeah but its the suspension of disbeleif thing. Obviously some moves look more damaging then others. But the thing with the RKO is Randy hits it from anywhere. Thats what give s the move its impact. You dont really think about the 'actual damage' just that it has been hit from all angles.

The Peoples Elbow in reality is the stupidest finisher ever, but you go with it because you are in the moment

 

I don't mind the People's Elbow that much mainly because he usually hits the Rock Bottom or a big spinebuster before it. I also think the People's Elbow is much better suited to the Rock when he's a heel, because it's a very cocky move.

[Oboe]

Any interesting new CAF parts? Any new transitions? Specifically, suplex to powerbomb (Orange Crush)?

[MST3Claye]

Righteous mentioned hoping that the diving finishers are fixed. Same here. I think it's the Chris Sabin that Codes and Shattered made. The diving double stomp move has some issues with the landing. I hope this and other diving moves actually land and not fall short like some in '13. I saw a lot of that.

[Righteous]

Righteous mentioned hoping that the diving finishers are fixed. Same here. I think it's the Chris Sabin that Codes and Shattered made. The diving double stomp move has some issues with the landing. I hope this and other diving moves actually land and not fall short like some in '13. I saw a lot of that.

Yeah. On 13 with diving finishers- the opponent had 2 be in a certain spot and position to be able 2 hit it. Was ridiculous. The pinning caf's were busted too. As they made you slide across the ring.

[the King Lives]

Someone needs to check the 5 star frog splash

[MST3Claye]

Especially that move! The 5 Star Frog Splash lol Actually, I'd have to verify from Codes about the diving double foot stomp on whether it was a CAF or not. It was different than the one that he and Shattered had for Sonjay Dutt. Dutt's actually landed and nailed it. Sabin's just looked like it landed in mid-air then he did a weird rolling animation and the opponent didn't seem to be effected by it.

[the King Lives]

Especially that move! The 5 Star Frog Splash lol Actually, I'd have to verify from Codes about the diving double foot stomp on whether it was a CAF or not. It was different than the one that he and Shattered had for Sonjay Dutt. Dutt's actually landed and nailed it. Sabin's just looked like it landed in mid-air then he did a weird rolling animation and the opponent didn't seem to be effected by it.

yeah someone needs to check it LOL cause i never want to see that move miss again.. i could have them completely squared to the turnbuckle and they still miss! LOL