Mr Awesome™ Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 These are some categories in which you will choose which comic book company is better at Quote
LastRide123 Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 DC all the way indeed. The Worlds Finest are going to crush The Avengers 2 in 2015! Superman and Batman together on the big screen at last! Quote
Heart Breaker Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Heroes? Marvel. Villains? DC. Movies? Close, but Marvel. TV Show/Animated Series? I'll let you know after season 1 of SHIELD. Comics? Toss up. Games? DC. Both are fantastic. Quote
delete Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Heroes? Marvel. Villains? DC. Movies? Close, but Marvel. TV Show/Animated Series? I'll let you know after season 1 of SHIELD. Comics? Toss up. Games? DC. Both are fantastic. Huh? Dude have you watched The Batman Trilogy? Quote
last ride 123 Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Huh? Dude have you watched The Batman Trilogy? No, hes obviously been smoking crack. Quote
delete Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 No, hes obviously been smoking crack. I meant my post as a satirical thing... Don't insult an administrator... Quote
last ride 123 Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 I meant my post as a satirical thing... Don't insult an administrator... Wasnt an insult. Was just a joke. My bad Heart Breaker, meant no disrespect. Quote
Aero Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 lol HB wont take offense to that guys. also, im gonna say it, the dark knight saga? good but overated. batman himself was a bit crap through most of it, being carried by the villans... and if you played Arkham city, the "major plot twist" in the 3rd movie was ruined. was it a good trilogy? yes! was it the original star wars trilogy good? no! was it better than anything marvel have done? its close but maybe yes! have marvel had more good films than just the dark knight? definitely. green lantern, judge dredd, dredd, some of the middle batman movies, all the superman movies (i've not seen man of steel so its excluded), watchmen? not great films. avengers, iron man, the 2nd hulk movie, the spiderman movies, some of the xmen movies, thor all where better. i think HB's opinion is fair, and its what i went for in the movies section, but i do expect it to be a very close run thing thanks mostly to the dark knight, personally i think a run of good movies is better than 1 trilogy that everyone loved. Quote
delete Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 lol HB wont take offense to that guys. also, im gonna say it, the dark knight saga? good but overated. batman himself was a bit crap through most of it, being carried by the villans... and if you played Arkham city, the "major plot twist" in the 3rd movie was ruined. was it a good trilogy? yes! was it the original star wars trilogy good? no! was it better than anything marvel have done? its close but maybe yes! have marvel had more good films than just the dark knight? definitely. green lantern, judge dredd, dredd, some of the middle batman movies, all the superman movies (i've not seen man of steel so its excluded), watchmen? not great films. avengers, iron man, the 2nd hulk movie, the spiderman movies, some of the xmen movies, thor all where better. i think HB's opinion is fair, and its what i went for in the movies section, but i do expect it to be a very close run thing thanks mostly to the dark knight, personally i think a run of good movies is better than 1 trilogy that everyone loved. You've not seen the new Man Of Steel movie? Well at the end: Just kidding, I wouldn't spoil it for you :)2 Quote
delete Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 lol HB wont take offense to that guys. also, im gonna say it, the dark knight saga? good but overated. batman himself was a bit crap through most of it, being carried by the villans... and if you played Arkham city, the "major plot twist" in the 3rd movie was ruined. was it a good trilogy? yes! was it the original star wars trilogy good? no! was it better than anything marvel have done? its close but maybe yes! have marvel had more good films than just the dark knight? definitely. green lantern, judge dredd, dredd, some of the middle batman movies, all the superman movies (i've not seen man of steel so its excluded), watchmen? not great films. avengers, iron man, the 2nd hulk movie, the spiderman movies, some of the xmen movies, thor all where better. i think HB's opinion is fair, and its what i went for in the movies section, but i do expect it to be a very close run thing thanks mostly to the dark knight, personally i think a run of good movies is better than 1 trilogy that everyone loved. Yeah I kind of agree with that, but not on the Avengers. I think it was massively overated which ruined my expectations of the film, and regarding Spiderman. I hope you're talking about the trilogy and not the recent one. Quote
Aero Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 haha i think superman is a womans superhero anyways, thats why im in no rush to see it. he's mr.perfect (sadly not as awesome as wwf's mr perfect). he's virtually invincible and has a ridiculous amount of powers and always swoops in to save the damsel in destress. heat vision, awesome hearing, flying, speed, strength, x-ray vision, can breathe in space, impervious to bullets etc and can only be beaten by something that doesnt come from this planet? thats a load horse s**t lol! theres a full team of superhero powers in there. Quote
Aero Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 as for spiderman, i despised toby, and they got weaker each time, topher grace was a poor choice for venom but would have been a great spiderman then they went and killed venom? ridiculous i found the 4th one to be a breath of fresh air and followed the spiderman story i knew better. was it a master piece? no! was it cast better? yes! it was essentially just an origin story though so it tapered towards the end but i have higher hopes for the sequel based on that provided a decent villan is put in place. croc was always a side villan who popped up and caused issues so i always expected someone more challenging to come along but it never happened the avengers i didnt like but i watched a dodgy copy of it as i couldnt get to the cinema... everyone else loved it that i know though so i assumed it was tarnished buy the video quality... i must rewatch it to see if my opinion still stands lol Quote
Spyder78 Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Too bad there's no 3rd options for tie/draw and being forced to choose one or the other... Heroes, Marvel: Iron-man, Capt. America & Thor over Batman & Superman for me Villians, DC: Zod, Luthor, Joker, Bane.. even thou Dr. Doom, Venom and Loki are tough competition Movies: Marvel, Avengers over the highly overrated DarkKnight trilogy and that horrible Man of Steel movie.. IF Avengers never got made I would've went DC just for Batman 89' (exlduing sequels) and Superman I and II (not the others) TV shows: Still waiting on S.H.I.E.L.D show like HB, never watched the animated ones Comics: Draw Games: N/A PS: I think I got a man-crush on Aero now for above post Quote
Heart Breaker Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Wasnt an insult. Was just a joke. My bad Heart Breaker, meant no disrespect. lol No need to apologize at all, my friend. lol HB wont take offense to that guys. also, im gonna say it, the dark knight saga? good but overated. batman himself was a bit crap through most of it, being carried by the villans... and if you played Arkham city, the "major plot twist" in the 3rd movie was ruined. was it a good trilogy? yes! was it the original star wars trilogy good? no! was it better than anything marvel have done? its close but maybe yes! have marvel had more good films than just the dark knight? definitely. green lantern, judge dredd, dredd, some of the middle batman movies, all the superman movies (i've not seen man of steel so its excluded), watchmen? not great films. avengers, iron man, the 2nd hulk movie, the spiderman movies, some of the xmen movies, thor all where better. i think HB's opinion is fair, and its what i went for in the movies section, but i do expect it to be a very close run thing thanks mostly to the dark knight, personally i think a run of good movies is better than 1 trilogy that everyone loved. BOOM! Dave said it perfectly. However, I am going to elaborate further on a few points. Yes, my whole argument was Marvel's selection of movies (Avengers, Iron Man triology, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Spiderman, etc.) are much better than three Dark Knight films. Do I love the Dark Knight triology? Of course. One of my favorite movie series to sit down and watch on a rainy day. However, DC hasn't released anything else worth writing home about. I still think Marvel has a more solid catelog of comic book movies. While DC has quite a few misses with the exception of The Dark Knight trilogy. Oh, and I'll go ahead and say it. I absolutely loved The Avengers. By far, my favorite superhero movie I've ever seen. I like a movie that has an incredible plot, great action sequences, and doesn't take itself too seriously. Avengers had all of that and more. (Plus Scarlett Johansson. ) I also agree with Dave's point about the Man of Steel. I haven't seen it yet. I'll probably rent it once it's available on bluray. He's just never intrigued me. Too perfect. There's nothing I can relate to Superman with. One hero out of DC's universe is above and beyond the rest. That is Batman. Marvel wins the hero battle and the movie battle. For now. Only my opinion though. Quote
delete Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Too bad there's no 3rd options for tie/draw and being forced to choose one or the other... Heroes, Marvel: Iron-man, Capt. America & Thor over Batman & Superman for me Villians, DC: Zod, Luthor, Joker, Bane.. even thou Dr. Doom, Venom and Loki are tough competition Movies: Marvel, Avengers over the highly overrated DarkKnight trilogy and that horrible Man of Steel movie.. IF Avengers never got made I would've went DC just for Batman 89' (exlduing sequels) and Superman I and II (not the others) TV shows: Still waiting on S.H.I.E.L.D show like HB, never watched the animated ones Comics: Draw Games: N/A PS: I think I got a man-crush on Aero now for above post Tbh Loki's the only worthy villian, Thor's always been my favorite Marvel hero. Quote
Aero Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Magneto, stryfe, apocolypse, venom, loki, carnage, dr doom, juggernaut, galactacus, the sentinels, sabertooth, abomination, mr sinister, omega red, mandarin, lady death stryke, silver samurai... granted most of these are x-men villans, Marvel had alot more good villans. play through arkham city in its entirety and see how week some of the batman villans where, because batman also had most of the best villans imo... all im going to say is Calendar man lol. to me its another case of quality Vs substance. was the surge of good villans in x-men counter balanced by the fact they where fighting a team? i'm not a marvel fanboy btw, i'm trying to highlight the broader spectrum outside of the movie scene which may be guiding some people. i love how close these points can be contested bu ti think the main point on most fronts though is do you prefer marvels approach at tons of good characters Vs DCs apparent "all our eggs in 1 basket" great character logic? that said, on the games front, (again thanks to batman lol) DC wins. marvel have had more games and very few have been overly good nevermind great. Quote
Mr Awesome™ Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 Tbh Loki's the only worthy villian, Thor's always been my favorite Marvel hero. for me its iron man and wolverine and for the villian venom Quote
Mr Awesome™ Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 tv/show: DC pretty much evyrone agrees with me that DC is better on animated series and the TV series Arrow is very awesome!! still waitng for agents of the S.H.I.E.L.D though for games:DC the batman:arkham games, injustice gods among us, and many more........ the only marvel game I like was the marvel ultimate alliance and not that much for heroes: DC for villians: DC no doubt about it :you have joker, deathstroke, riddler, doomsday, darkseid and a lot more( but joker is still the most awesome for me) for comics: probably draw Quote
delete Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Magneto, stryfe, apocolypse, venom, loki, carnage, dr doom, juggernaut, galactacus, the sentinels, sabertooth, abomination, mr sinister, omega red, mandarin, lady death stryke, silver samurai... granted most of these are x-men villans, Marvel had alot more good villans. play through arkham city in its entirety and see how week some of the batman villans where, because batman also had most of the best villans imo... all im going to say is Calendar man lol. to me its another case of quality Vs substance. was the surge of good villans in x-men counter balanced by the fact they where fighting a team? i'm not a marvel fanboy btw, i'm trying to highlight the broader spectrum outside of the movie scene which may be guiding some people. i love how close these points can be contested bu ti think the main point on most fronts though is do you prefer marvels approach at tons of good characters Vs DCs apparent "all our eggs in 1 basket" great character logic? that said, on the games front, (again thanks to batman lol) DC wins. marvel have had more games and very few have been overly good nevermind great. Shit I forgot Magneto! Magneto's the greatest villian in my opinion. Quote
Heart Breaker Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 tv/show: DC pretty much evyrone agrees with me that DC is better on animated series and the TV series Arrow is very awesome!! still waitng for agents of the S.H.I.E.L.D though for games:DC the batman:arkham games, injustice gods among us, and many more........ the only marvel game I like was the marvel ultimate alliance and not that much for heroes: DC for villians: DC no doubt about it :you have joker, deathstroke, riddler, doomsday, darkseid and a lot more( but joker is still the most awesome for me) for comics: probably draw Why DC for heroes? Just curious. Quote
Professor of Wrestling Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 lol HB wont take offense to that guys. also, im gonna say it, the dark knight saga? good but overated. batman himself was a bit crap through most of it, being carried by the villans... and if you played Arkham city, the "major plot twist" in the 3rd movie was ruined. was it a good trilogy? yes! was it the original star wars trilogy good? no! was it better than anything marvel have done? its close but maybe yes! have marvel had more good films than just the dark knight? definitely. green lantern, judge dredd, dredd, some of the middle batman movies, all the superman movies (i've not seen man of steel so its excluded), watchmen? not great films. avengers, iron man, the 2nd hulk movie, the spiderman movies, some of the xmen movies, thor all where better. i think HB's opinion is fair, and its what i went for in the movies section, but i do expect it to be a very close run thing thanks mostly to the dark knight, personally i think a run of good movies is better than 1 trilogy that everyone loved. WHAT? Those original Superman movies shit on DK. That last trainwreck with Smallville fag sucked, though. And those "middle" Batman movies are the shit. 80s and 90s cheesiness at its best. Keaton/Clooney/Kilmer/West all > Bale. And I agree that DK was over-rated as a mofo. I personally didn't care much for them. The second one was pretty decent, but not "the greatest super hero movie of all-time" as some think. I just couldn't take Heath Ledger very seriously. I get he wanted a more demented twist on the Joker character, but that's not the Joker I grew up with. For me, Jack Nicholson will always be The Joker. And, of course, Mark Hammill in the games/animated shows. Quote
Professor of Wrestling Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Also, Batman is not a super hero. I always hate that misconception. The term "super" in this case defines having extraordinary abilities. Ie: The ability to fly, see through walls, limitless strength, invulnerability, etc. Batman is a rich dude with some high-tech gadgetry. The ONLY thing unique about him is that his gadgetary budget is so high, no one can replicate it. With no suit or gadgets, he's quite literally at the bottom of the food chain in the DC universe. And the other area the effed up in is with Superman. The dude has one weakness. The source of the weakness was blown the up and it's remnants scattered throughout the universe. How's anyone supposed to get "kryptonite"? What're the odds that some landed on Earth from 4 galaxies away. And even more absurd, what're the odds that Lex Luthor would identify, locate and obtain this one-in-infinity item? They effed up with Superman by making him too God-like and by not thinking his weakness through enough. And I never played Injustice. But MK VS. DCU was a decent game. DC Universe is great, though. But Marvel had some great video games, too. X-Men Wolverine, Ultimate Alliance 1 and 2, etc. That was the hardest one for me tbh lol. Quote
☠King Orclord☠ Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 TV Shows: Marvel Heroes: Marvel Villains :DC Movies: Marvel Comic books: DC Games Marvel Quote
Aero Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 WHAT? Those original Superman movies shit on DK. That last trainwreck with Smallville fag sucked, though. And those "middle" Batman movies are the shit. 80s and 90s cheesiness at its best. Keaton/Clooney/Kilmer/West all > Bale. And I agree that DK was over-rated as a mofo. I personally didn't care much for them. The second one was pretty decent, but not "the greatest super hero movie of all-time" as some think. I just couldn't take Heath Ledger very seriously. I get he wanted a more demented twist on the Joker character, but that's not the Joker I grew up with. For me, Jack Nicholson will always be The Joker. And, of course, Mark Hammill in the games/animated shows. each to their own i guess. i liked the batman movies of the 80s etc at the time, but they progressively got worse to a point where nobody was interested in superhero movies anymore. x-men was noted as a big gamble, and in turn thats why they decided to go with thlose god-awful black leather suits, to make them all seem more normal. nobody wanted a repeat of the george clooney nipple suited batman, nor did they want the likes of the cheesy versions of bane and freeze that we got. that follows nicely into the joker debate. i feel the joker has ALWAYS been cast well to fit into the surroundings set for him, from the camp adam west batman shows right through to the dark knight & the games etc. if you dig hard enough you'll find various different jokers in various different batman comics where, even just by looking at the drawings alone, you can judge the type of joker being portrayed, some times he's a bit twisted and looking for fun, some times he's the maniacal psychopath. im not saying its wrong to have a favorite joker, im just saying the joker has always been great for the purpose he was intended.... juch the same as jim carreys joker vs the joker in the Arkham games. completely different, but both brilliant. Quote
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