Eliminate Grappling In Order To Perform A Grapple

[UnderTaker1784]

I know this may seem crazy but create a new game play that will reinvent wrestling games completely, and do so in a way that will eliminate grappling,

YES I SAID ELIMINATE GRAPPLING,

what I really mean is, eliminate the need for a gamer to grapple in order to do a grappling move, instead press a button a certain way in a certain direction than the game does the grappling for you in a wide range of different grapple positions based on what button commands or directions you have done, kind of like a ready attack but more in a new dynamic way that will make a wrestling gamer say, what? or wow this is not what Im used to at all. id love to work with 2k on an idea I have in my head as to how to emulate a new style that would make all wrestling gamers say wow, but I think ill keep that tooo my self for now and see what 2k or yukes or visual concepts or the dynamic duo will come up with in 2k14 and 2k15 first.

[Alex™]

So you want WWE2K14 to be a Boxing/Beat 'em up game ?????

Bad idea.

[UnderTaker1784]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo, u have no idea what im saying.......

read carefully, I said eliminate the need to actually do a grappling maneuver in order to do a grapple, instead its replaced by an attack that you would perform and than the game converts and does and simulates the grapple within the animation of the move that follows.

and this is talking about next gen 21k15 and beyond.

[UnderTaker1784]

NEW IDEA

READY TO PLAY STYLE

Using Xbox 360 Controller For Example

For Playstation Users Simply Use The Bottons In The Same Position Like

You Already Do For WWE 13

Ok lets take my system from other thread and change it to use without any grapples at all, lets make these changes to what I posted In another thread, updated with lots of changes...

Completely Grapple Free No Mercy AKI Style Game Play, Without Any Grapples And Replaced With Ready Attacks, Just Do The Following Without Grappling And The Moves Will Be Done For You, Now This Is Pure Genius. I Call It "Ready To Play Style"....

Ready Attacks

its a real simple system really just tap or hold the following button commands with a directional pad for each move as followed...

Light Ready Attacks

use directional pad in the following directions with simple button command below

<+ Tap X

>+ Tap X

v+ Tap X

^+ Tap X

< + tap Y

> + tap Y

v + tap Y

^ + tap Y

< + tap A

> + tap A

v + tap A

^ + tap A

Strong Ready Attacks

use directional pad in the following directions with simple button command below

<+ Hold X

>+ Hold X

v+ Hold X

^+ Hold X

< + hold Y

> + hold Y

v + hold Y

^ + hold Y

< + hold A

> + hold A

v + hold A

^ + hold A

Super Strong Ready Attacks

Hold LB +

<+ Tap X

>+ Tap X

v+ Tap X

^+ Tap X

< + tap Y

> + tap Y

v + tap Y

^ + tap Y

< + tap A

> + tap A

v + tap A

^ + tap A

<+ Hold X

>+ Hold X

v+ Hold X

^+ Hold X

< + hold Y

> + hold Y

v + hold Y

^ + hold Y

< + hold A

> + hold A

v + hold A

^ + hold A

Limb Target Ready Attacks

Hold RB+ A Or B Or X Or Y To Target A Specific Limb Than Do The Following

Directional Pad Command Followed By The Following Button Commands

<+ Tap X

>+ Tap X

v+ Tap X

^+ Tap X

< + tap Y

> + tap Y

v + tap Y

^ + tap Y

< + tap A

> + tap A

v + tap A

^ + tap A

<+ Hold X

>+ Hold X

v+ Hold X

^+ Hold X

< + hold Y

> + hold Y

v + hold Y

^ + hold Y

< + hold A

> + hold A

v + hold A

^ + hold A

Ready Strikes

simply use the following directional pad and botton commads

Light Ready Strikes

tap B

< + tap B

> + tap B

v + tap B

^ + tap B

Strong Ready Strikes

hold B

< + hold B

> + hold B

v + hold B

^ + hold B

Super Strong Ready Strikes

Hold LB +

tap B

< + tap B

> + tap B

v + tap B

^ + tap B

hold B

< + hold B

> + hold B

v + hold B

^ + hold B

Limb Target Ready Strikes

Hold RB+ A Or B Or X Or Y To Target A Specific Limb Than Do The Following

Directional Pad Command Followed By The Following Button Commands

tap B

< + tap B

> + tap B

v + tap B

^ + tap B

hold B

< + hold B

> + hold B

v + hold B

^ + hold B

[benkilltwodlc]

NEW IDEA

READY TO PLAY STYLE

Using Xbox 360 Controller For Example

For Playstation Users Simply Use The Bottons In The Same Position Like

You Already Do For WWE 13

Ok lets take my system from other thread and change it to use without any grapples at all, lets make these changes to what I posted In another thread, updated with lots of changes...

Completely Grapple Free No Mercy AKI Style Game Play, Without Any Grapples And Replaced With Ready Attacks, Just Do The Following Without Grappling And The Moves Will Be Done For You, Now This Is Pure Genius. I Call It "Ready To Play Style"....

Ready Attacks

its a real simple system really just tap or hold the following button commands with a directional pad for each move as followed...

Light Ready Attacks

use directional pad in the following directions with simple button command below

<+ Tap X

>+ Tap X

v+ Tap X

^+ Tap X

< + tap Y

> + tap Y

v + tap Y

^ + tap Y

< + tap A

> + tap A

v + tap A

^ + tap A

Strong Ready Attacks

use directional pad in the following directions with simple button command below

<+ Hold X

>+ Hold X

v+ Hold X

^+ Hold X

< + hold Y

> + hold Y

v + hold Y

^ + hold Y

< + hold A

> + hold A

v + hold A

^ + hold A

Super Strong Ready Attacks

Hold LB +

<+ Tap X

>+ Tap X

v+ Tap X

^+ Tap X

< + tap Y

> + tap Y

v + tap Y

^ + tap Y

< + tap A

> + tap A

v + tap A

^ + tap A

<+ Hold X

>+ Hold X

v+ Hold X

^+ Hold X

< + hold Y

> + hold Y

v + hold Y

^ + hold Y

< + hold A

> + hold A

v + hold A

^ + hold A

Limb Target Ready Attacks

Hold RB+ A Or B Or X Or Y To Target A Specific Limb Than Do The Following

Directional Pad Command Followed By The Following Button Commands

<+ Tap X

>+ Tap X

v+ Tap X

^+ Tap X

< + tap Y

> + tap Y

v + tap Y

^ + tap Y

< + tap A

> + tap A

v + tap A

^ + tap A

<+ Hold X

>+ Hold X

v+ Hold X

^+ Hold X

< + hold Y

> + hold Y

v + hold Y

^ + hold Y

< + hold A

> + hold A

v + hold A

^ + hold A

Ready Strikes

simply use the following directional pad and botton commads

Light Ready Strikes

tap B

< + tap B

> + tap B

v + tap B

^ + tap B

Strong Ready Strikes

hold B

< + hold B

> + hold B

v + hold B

^ + hold B

Super Strong Ready Strikes

Hold LB +

tap B

< + tap B

> + tap B

v + tap B

^ + tap B

hold B

< + hold B

> + hold B

v + hold B

^ + hold B

Limb Target Ready Strikes

Hold RB+ A Or B Or X Or Y To Target A Specific Limb Than Do The Following

Directional Pad Command Followed By The Following Button Commands

tap B

< + tap B

> + tap B

v + tap B

^ + tap B

hold B

< + hold B

> + hold B

v + hold B

^ + hold B

worst idea ever for my opinion its like UFC games and i dont want UFC i want WWE

[Thedeadmanrising]

I know this may seem crazy but create a new game play that will reinvent wrestling games completely, and do so in a way that will eliminate grappling,

YES I SAID ELIMINATE GRAPPLING,

what I really mean is, eliminate the need for a gamer to grapple in order to do a grappling move, instead press a button a certain way in a certain direction than the game does the grappling for you in a wide range of different grapple positions based on what button commands or directions you have done, kind of like a ready attack but more in a new dynamic way that will make a wrestling gamer say, what? or wow this is not what Im used to at all. id love to work with 2k on an idea I have in my head as to how to emulate a new style that would make all wrestling gamers say wow, but I think ill keep that tooo my self for now and see what 2k or yukes or visual concepts or the dynamic duo will come up with in 2k14 and 2k15 first.

NEW IDEA

READY TO PLAY STYLE

Using Xbox 360 Controller For Example

For Playstation Users Simply Use The Bottons In The Same Position Like

You Already Do For WWE 13

Ok lets take my system from other thread and change it to use without any grapples at all, lets make these changes to what I posted In another thread, updated with lots of changes...

Completely Grapple Free No Mercy AKI Style Game Play, Without Any Grapples And Replaced With Ready Attacks, Just Do The Following Without Grappling And The Moves Will Be Done For You, Now This Is Pure Genius. I Call It "Ready To Play Style"....

Ready Attacks

its a real simple system really just tap or hold the following button commands with a directional pad for each move as followed...

Light Ready Attacks

use directional pad in the following directions with simple button command below

<+ Tap X

>+ Tap X

v+ Tap X

^+ Tap X

< + tap Y

> + tap Y

v + tap Y

^ + tap Y

< + tap A

> + tap A

v + tap A

^ + tap A

Strong Ready Attacks

use directional pad in the following directions with simple button command below

<+ Hold X

>+ Hold X

v+ Hold X

^+ Hold X

< + hold Y

> + hold Y

v + hold Y

^ + hold Y

< + hold A

> + hold A

v + hold A

^ + hold A

Super Strong Ready Attacks

Hold LB +

<+ Tap X

>+ Tap X

v+ Tap X

^+ Tap X

< + tap Y

> + tap Y

v + tap Y

^ + tap Y

< + tap A

> + tap A

v + tap A

^ + tap A

<+ Hold X

>+ Hold X

v+ Hold X

^+ Hold X

< + hold Y

> + hold Y

v + hold Y

^ + hold Y

< + hold A

> + hold A

v + hold A

^ + hold A

Limb Target Ready Attacks

Hold RB+ A Or B Or X Or Y To Target A Specific Limb Than Do The Following

Directional Pad Command Followed By The Following Button Commands

<+ Tap X

>+ Tap X

v+ Tap X

^+ Tap X

< + tap Y

> + tap Y

v + tap Y

^ + tap Y

< + tap A

> + tap A

v + tap A

^ + tap A

<+ Hold X

>+ Hold X

v+ Hold X

^+ Hold X

< + hold Y

> + hold Y

v + hold Y

^ + hold Y

< + hold A

> + hold A

v + hold A

^ + hold A

Ready Strikes

simply use the following directional pad and botton commads

Light Ready Strikes

tap B

< + tap B

> + tap B

v + tap B

^ + tap B

Strong Ready Strikes

hold B

< + hold B

> + hold B

v + hold B

^ + hold B

Super Strong Ready Strikes

Hold LB +

tap B

< + tap B

> + tap B

v + tap B

^ + tap B

hold B

< + hold B

> + hold B

v + hold B

^ + hold B

Limb Target Ready Strikes

Hold RB+ A Or B Or X Or Y To Target A Specific Limb Than Do The Following

Directional Pad Command Followed By The Following Button Commands

tap B

< + tap B

> + tap B

v + tap B

^ + tap B

hold B

< + hold B

> + hold B

v + hold B

^ + hold B

Never in a Million years they would use ideas like these.......The first idea seems like you want to see like the way it was from the old games like SYM and Know your Role........ Your second Idea seems like you want it to be like Mortal Kombat or Tekken; it's like you're wanting it to be more complicated and hard than it is. Not trying to be mean, but Ideas would never be used in WWE games or any Wrestling video games that I know

[MarvstaX]

No... Just no.

No need for me to say anymore since the others have already said all that needs to be said.

[UnderTaker1784]

Here is a reply to this from gamingring...

Reply from gaming ring, I like this guy's suggestion as well, and he understnads my definition of ready attacks, unlike some people who don't understand what this post is about and how these would work, but he understands, this was quoted from WebbanationX at gaming ring.

I've thought about this in the past, but as far as eliminating grapples as an entirety is probably not a good idea for a game. What I've been picturing is more or less like, in addition to the groggy grapple list, bringing in basically kind of a ready attack, a no-grapple-necessary move listing. It works the same way the finishers work, only the reversal window isn't at the moment the executer presses the button, but the moment where the attacker would be coming in contact with the victim.

Let's say for example your opponent is trying to perform the Jumping STO. Maybe have it like it was before with RB/RI as a modifier. You hold the trigger and press up and the grapple button. The guy will go straight into the animation for the Jumping STO, no tie-up required. At the very moment the guy throws his arm around your neck you hit reverse and you end up countering with an Ezekial Jackson-like Uranage. It would force the developers basically to redo some move animations so that they could be broken in that format. Any normal grapple move would of course be like normal because you're already waiting for the moment the opponent's hand touch you to reverse anyways, but for moves like that STO, the RKO, Zig Zig, etc that are performed quicker with the use of a tie-up, it could make for a slight change of pace. It's kinda like taking the quick grapples from previous games and amping them up a bit.

[UnderTaker1784]

Here is a reply to this from gamingring...

Reply from gaming ring, I like this guy's suggestion as well, and he understnads my definition of ready attacks, unlike some people who don't understand what this post is about and how these would work, but he understands, this was quoted from WebbanationX at gaming ring.

I've thought about this in the past, but as far as eliminating grapples as an entirety is probably not a good idea for a game. What I've been picturing is more or less like, in addition to the groggy grapple list, bringing in basically kind of a ready attack, a no-grapple-necessary move listing. It works the same way the finishers work, only the reversal window isn't at the moment the executer presses the button, but the moment where the attacker would be coming in contact with the victim.

Let's say for example your opponent is trying to perform the Jumping STO. Maybe have it like it was before with RB/RI as a modifier. You hold the trigger and press up and the grapple button. The guy will go straight into the animation for the Jumping STO, no tie-up required. At the very moment the guy throws his arm around your neck you hit reverse and you end up countering with an Ezekial Jackson-like Uranage. It would force the developers basically to redo some move animations so that they could be broken in that format. Any normal grapple move would of course be like normal because you're already waiting for the moment the opponent's hand touch you to reverse anyways, but for moves like that STO, the RKO, Zig Zig, etc that are performed quicker with the use of a tie-up, it could make for a slight change of pace. It's kinda like taking the quick grapples from previous games and amping them up a bit.

read post above, WebbanationX explains it more accuratly in a better way than I tried to explain, but his explanation works better for me.

Edited July 19, 2013 by UnderTaker1784

[Beardy]

I have a great idea...they just keep it as it is...period.