Group work and all that shit.Take a look!

[WFMashUpz]

LOL, do you guys know who Geizon is?

I'm a friend of him, and yes, he has an account here. Yesterday he was telling me that he saw some of my posts here and didn't know I was a modder... and I'm not.

[UndertakerWLF]

Well that was random lol

[Miztah Raza]

Alright. I've decided to learn how to program, lol. It could be absolute HELL trying to learn this, especially because I don't have too much time. But, I'm stuck on what language to learn. C#? C++? Java? Which one is the easiest?

I've decided that I want to work on a simple, sprite based, 2D game using the Unity3D engine after I learn one of these languages, just for fun. But most of the tutorials and stuff use Java to make the game that I'm looking to make, lol. So I'm leaning towards that(Java).

Is there a language that I should learn before anything else? Something that's very basic and using that I can just build a base and work on that, because atm, I've never had anything to do with programming or making software or whatever, so I'm kind of lost :

Edited March 28, 2013 by Miztah Raza

[IamCrazyPT]

I like more of c++,java its kinda of hard

[Abylai]

@ Miztah Raza: If you want to create the program, you need microsoft visual studio

[brienj]

Alright. I've decided to learn how to program, lol. It could be absolute HELL trying to learn this, especially because I don't have too much time. But, I'm stuck on what language to learn. C#? C++? Java? Which one is the easiest?

I've decided that I want to work on a simple, sprite based, 2D game using the Unity3D engine after I learn one of these languages, just for fun. But most of the tutorials and stuff use Java to make the game that I'm looking to make, lol. So I'm leaning towards that(Java).

Is there a language that I should learn before anything else? Something that's very basic and using that I can just build a base and work on that, because atm, I've never had anything to do with programming or making software or whatever, so I'm kind of lost :

Learn C or at the least unmanaged C++, not that managed C++ stuff in the Visual Studio IDE. Once you learn unmanaged programming, then it will make you a better managed programmer. You can program in unmanaged C++, just make sure you set the wizard up for that.

[Miztah Raza]

Learn C or at the least unmanaged C++, not that managed C++ stuff in the Visual Studio IDE. Once you learn unmanaged programming, then it will make you a better managed programmer. You can program in unmanaged C++, just make sure you set the wizard up for that.

Should I jump straight into learning C++ or should I start out with Basic, just to kind of start out with programming(because I'm at the level where I've just made the 'Hello World' program in the DOS window, lol).

[PlayboyPictures]

So you've said fuck trying to add superstars to WWE'13 dlc i'm out lol

[UndertakerWLF]

Miztah, I'm learning C# myself, if your wanting to make a game you should check out Microsoft's XNA. (Don't worry I've made a hello world to...) lol

[brienj]

Should I jump straight into learning C++ or should I start out with Basic, just to kind of start out with programming(because I'm at the level where I've just made the 'Hello World' program in the DOS window, lol).

Basic? You mean like Visual Basic? That's managed programming, which you should NOT learn first. Too many people jump straight into a managed language, and don't learn very important fundamental things you need to know when programming.

[zhigge]

i hope he means visual basic as BASIC probably won't work on a regular pc, let alone i would be shocked if you could find a copy. lol. I would say C or C++ would be your best bet. as brien said, to me once you learn that everything in your life becomes a program.. weird but it does. You understand structure and logic better. VB5, Visual C, or C# would be better next step languages to transition into java with. I would never recommend Java as a first language its like being in 1st grade math and learning 7th grade trig. yeah you may can figure it out but it easier to start at 1st grade math and work your way up to 7th grade trig after understanding what math is.

[brienj]

i hope he means visual basic as BASIC probably won't work on a regular pc, let alone i would be shocked if you could find a copy. lol. I would say C or C++ would be your best bet. as brien said, to me once you learn that everything in your life becomes a program.. weird but it does. You understand structure and logic better. VB5, Visual C, or C# would be better next step languages to transition into java with. I would never recommend Java as a first language its like being in 1st grade math and learning 7th grade trig. yeah you may can figure it out but it easier to start at 1st grade math and work your way up to 7th grade trig after understanding what math is.

Yeah, I was pretty sure that was what he meant. I don't think I've actually seen BASIC programming, since I worked on a Commodore 64.

JAVA actually isn't too bad to learn eventually, but yeah, I'd never recommend starting out with it. JAVA is great for multi-platform programming, and helps with Android programming. I've programmed in it a few times, and it's similar to C# in ways. C# is the first managed language he should learn, if he doesn't actually learn managed C++ beforehand, but I always love the C languages. Vb is really just a language for people that don't ever plan on learning a real programming language, and are going to program in a managed environment forever ...

I'm not saying a managed environment is bad, because it does have many advantages, but there are a lot of times you will want to program something that doesn't depend on the CLR, which you can do by using the unsafe switch, but if you have to program that way, just make that Class in C++ and make a dll out of it, and P/Invoke it with your managed code. I think I've used the unsafe code switch only ONE time EVER while programming in the .NET environment. If I needed something unmanaged, I made a dll file and embedded it in my exe file.

Ok, enough ranting, but I encourage anyone to learn programming, and to not try and take shortcuts while doing it, because you will regret it later on when you are making really high-level programs.

[Miztah Raza]

C++ first, unmanaged. Gotcha. Off I go to spend hours and hours reading stuff.

See ya later.

[zhigge]

Yeah, I was pretty sure that was what he meant. I don't think I've actually seen BASIC programming, since I worked on a Commodore 64.

JAVA actually isn't too bad to learn eventually, but yeah, I'd never recommend starting out with it. JAVA is great for multi-platform programming, and helps with Android programming. I've programmed in it a few times, and it's similar to C# in ways. C# is the first managed language he should learn, if he doesn't actually learn managed C++ beforehand, but I always love the C languages. Vb is really just a language for people that don't ever plan on learning a real programming language, and are going to program in a managed environment forever ...

I'm not saying a managed environment is bad, because it does have many advantages, but there are a lot of times you will want to program something that doesn't depend on the CLR, which you can do by using the unsafe switch, but if you have to program that way, just make that Class in C++ and make a dll out of it, and P/Invoke it with your managed code. I think I've used the unsafe code switch only ONE time EVER while programming in the .NET environment. If I needed something unmanaged, I made a dll file and embedded it in my exe file.

Ok, enough ranting, but I encourage anyone to learn programming, and to not try and take shortcuts while doing it, because you will regret it later on when you are making really high-level programs.

spoken like a devry or ga tech grad lmao.

[tekken57]

C++ first, unmanaged. Gotcha. Off I go to spend hours and hours reading stuff.

See ya later.

I started with vb6 then c++, vb.net, asp, c# and now php. lol. So I agree c++ is a good language to start with, it makes programming c# easier later on.

[Miztah Raza]

C++ is pretty hard actually, lol. Well, as compared to the several hours I spent just looking at tutorials for vb, I learned how to make a calculator, picture viewer, RGB code sampler, and a BMI calculator, lol. It was cool to make my own software. Now, I'm focusing on C++, let's see what the future holds, hopefully it's not tons of headaches I know I should learn unmanaged programming first, and that's what I'm going to do. I was just 'testing out' what I could do with a couple of hours and visual basic express edition, lol.

Edited March 30, 2013 by Miztah Raza

[Red Rooster]

Well this thread did kinda go off track and then die. I guess if its not possible to fix the funny head lighting problem on WWE12 models then theres not much point in figuring out how to make them DLC.

[UndertakerWLF]

Since Brienj has kindly provided his new archiver tool I'm going to take a crack at working this out....is anybody else still interested in getting this to work?

[Miztah Raza]

I'm interested, just haven't been had the time to look further into it

[jcsix]

I'm interested in getting it to work. No clue where to start.

[zhigge]

yeah i'm interested.

[UndertakerWLF]

cool, just did'nt want this thread to die off I know it's difficult to work on this stuff as time is constricting..but I'm going to have a look at it tonight and see if I can add DLC, I will probably crash and burn lol but I'm going to give it a shot.

[Miztah Raza]

cool, just did'nt want this thread to die off I know it's difficult to work on this stuff as time is constricting..but I'm going to have a look at it tonight and see if I can add DLC, I will probably crash and burn lol but I'm going to give it a shot.

That's the attitude I love! That's the attitude every modder should have, instead of posting "proplem" topics, lol.

[KillerGeizon]

If you guys need any help with hexing ask me via PM.

[zhigge]

so did you actually get the slots to work miz?