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All credit to ExtremeGamer (Scott) from Operation Sports. Please don't bitch about the long post. Thank you.

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Hope we will be able to use our created arenas in RTWM. Should be awesome. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Well, you can't in Road to WM, but you can in Universe 2.0 smile.gif

Well thing is I never got into Universe mode last year because it feels to much like GM mode. I'm hoping for some major improvements this year to get me more interested in it for a change. Looking forwar to the news tho.

It felt nothing like GM mode last year, what changes are you looking for?

Last year's was bland, had a lot of limitations.

Most of those are gone now.

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Well tell me this much. In your own words. What has changed in it this year?? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Titles can be defended on any show.

Storylines make sense now and blend together better.

DRAFT!!!!! And it looks just like it does on TV, with the wrestler faces flipping through until one is picked. Even has the same music.

Everything just feels tighter, no more inferno matches for 8 straight PPV's.

Tag teams/stables stay together, some may still split up, but not anything like it was last year.

EVERYTHING can be edited. We'll get to that here in a few smile.gif

Maybe controller a certain wrestler and go through the universe going after titles with him and going through the ranks. Instead of having to mess with other wrestlers and matches in the process.

Like the No Mercy storylines? We all mentioned that at the community events. Wouldn't mind seeing that come back, all I can say is we told them that we'd love to see that.

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Yea I never like messing with the matches other wrestlers.I just like to control one certain guy for a while then switch him out later for another. But hopfully that can be added next year to Universe 3.0 or something. Thanks alot for letting me know what has change bro. y1.gif </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

I love Universe mode personally, feel in complete control of 3 shows.... (yes 3).

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3?

ECW? WCW? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

BUT

I did say everything is editable. So, you can make that show, whatever you want. Name it whatever you want (Same with Raw/Smackdown).

For instance, I made Nitro on Monday, complete with logo, arena, belts. Then made TNA Impact on Thursday (didn't have logo or arena, but those will obviously be created by the community probably in a matter of days after reelase). Then I put Raw on Friday night. You can then remove entire shows from the draft and for titles. So only wrestlers on TNA can complete for whatever titles you set for that show, no cross over unless you let it. When you set up the show, you name it, set the belts for it, etc.

Or you can have all 3 shows open and compete on other shows here and there.

Unfortunately the title rankings still isn't editable, so you can't just put Cody Rhodes as the #1 contender for every belt frown.gif But you can give him a title shot whenever you want and for whatever show you want.

So as you can see, the ideas here are pretty much endless. Want an all ECW show? Sure! Want an all Legends show? Sure! Want Raw/Smackdown/Superstars as it is now, SURE!. Want John Cena and Randy Orton to be stuck together on GLOW on Friday nights? Go ahead.

Yes, it's that cool!

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Oh wow, that's even better than I could imagine! And I'm assuming legends can be used in Universe mode? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Or not, you can turn on/turn off anyone you want to be involved in the mode. So if you download 50 CAW's and only want to use them in your universe, go ahead.

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You said you can edit titles, can you make a cruiser title and set the weight limit? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

No, it's something we begged to bring back, hopefully for WWE '13 frown.gif

You can edit titles for what they are set for. So if you want the WCW belt to be the TNA title, you can do that. Can't edit the actual title. Sorry.

^^That's basically a career mode though. I think that would take a fundamental changing of what Universe is to make it a My Player type of deal. You could simply only play the matches of one wrestler if that's the case as Universe will make all the matches for you from week to week if that much is still the same from last year. I like My Player type modes as much as the next guy, but what you're talking about pretty much kills the whole purpose of Universe mode.

EDIT: Took to long posting this lol. Good stuff EG.

Are all belts available from the start for Universe or is there going to need to be unlocking done? Also are you allowed to tell us what these 23 championships are that are in the game?

I don't know all 23 belts in the game, only a few that were shown to me.

They are unlockable, but if you buy Fan Axxess, they are all unlocked from the start like last year.

You touched briefly on it, but how were feuds and storylines handled? Was it natural and interesting or random and thrown together?

The same as last year in a way, just more natural than it was. Didn't feel as disjointed to me.

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Another question. You mentioned that you couldn't edit the rankings for titles, which is disappointing, but the blow would be lessened if the rankings don't end up half as bad as last year. Will we see the rankings populated by people who have no business there? For example, last year my WWE and World Heavyweight Title rankings were filled with the Evan Bourne, Justin Gabriel, Goldust, DH Smith and Tyson Kidd's of the world. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

I still saw some goofyness, not as bad as last year, but there was some. It's an easier fix now allowing title defenses on any show.

One big thing that I and others expressed we wanted back was a title history. So hoping that is in next year.

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Is it possible to have a heel vs heel and face vs face feud without one guy turning?

And one more, thanks for all the info EG, but is there any dynamic commentary in Universe? Like acknowledgement of "This guy has had the title for X months"? I didn't really experiment with heels vs heels to see what would happen. I know I kept a faction together for 5 months without anyone turning, until one guy did, and he was immediately a face and feuded with the faction leader. So at least it all made sense.

Commentary still sucks...it is what it is. Besides Cole being a heel, talking about Cole Miners, and praising all things Miz, it's not very good. LOL</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Matches were 5 a show, up 1 from last year. Superstars only had 3/4 I believe. So whatever show you make on Thursday will have less matches.

Did not see new cutscenes that I noticed, but they were better placed than a guy sitting front row randomly every show.

Still in wrestling gear, reason is that the character models are caked on, so can't just add clothing options. That's why the Nexus armband last year couldn't be moved or adjusted for Wade Barrett and others. It was actually a part of him.

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so how does setting belts for a new show and rankings work together?

For instance say I make the Thursday show Ring of Honor and use all caws on that show. Now, I will want to set the World Championship Belt as my main belt, another mid level belt to use as the Television title and give them some tag titles as well.

So here are my questions

1. If I take the World Title off Smackdown, what happens on their show? Do I have to replace it with something?

2. If I assign them one of the other belts, say the WCW championship, will they have rankings for that belt or are rankings still only for WWE, World, US, Intercontinental and Tag belts?

3. Can you split the tag belts like they used to be and have two separate sets of rankings?

4. Is there still just one announce team?

5. I saw one of the achievements has something to do with getting 75% momentum in Universe with a caw... how does that work... is this like the popularity thing in GM mode? God I hope not.

6. Can you still give a caw any ratings you wish... we don't have to build them up through pointless grinding do we?

7. Do you still see like the World champion competing for the US belt? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

1. You can replace Smackdown's title with whatever belt you want.

2. Ranking are set for each show's titles.

3. Did not mess with tag belts, sorry frown.gif

4. Yes, just Cole/Lawler

5. I'll let the IGN review explain that better, I didn't mess with actually doing too many matches myself in Universe, did mostly simming through it and played out things like the Rumble, MitB, and the Draft night (winner gets the draft pick).

6. Yes

7. Possible, but not as bad. The ratings are still not perfect.

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Thanks for the answers but to the last one... No i meant like how Barrett and others have Suits on in the RTWM trailer... u see any other attires like that? oh and what about #1 contender matches can we have them whenever we choose?

Didn't see either or try either frown.gif

So does that mean only for the same belts as last year or does that mean each show has a World, Mid level and tag rankings that you can put what ever belt in there you want? If it works like last year, then there is no way to have a world title for each show? You are limited to just two?

There can be 3 World Titles, one for each show. There are 23 belts in the game to choose from and use.

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1.How is MITB, can you cash it in at anytime?

2. If I create my own show, will they defend tittles at PPVs? Also can we have 3 different heavyweight champions (raw, smackdown, created show)?

1. Yes

2. Yes and Yes

Did u manage to see how many matches per PPV we can have? And can u change the day of the show? (Like change thursday's show to sunday)

Pretty sure PPV's had 6 or 7 matches, can't remember, it's more than a regular show.

Cannot move the date unfortuantely, Always a Monday, Thursday, Friday show.

And also (sorry for all the questions) if we change a show around (name, logo, etc.) does it automatically stay like that every week or do we have to change it every week? and can we do the same for PPVs? (change name/arena etc.)

There's a global setting, so if you change Monday to Nitro, it'll always stay that way until you change it back.

Can't edit PPV's.

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To piggy back that, when the computer makes a stupid Money in the Bank Match at Wrestlemania full of people who probably shouldn't even be involved in getting a world title contract, if you change participants will that pretty much eliminate the match being a MitB match? Also, will you only be able to control the person that's cashing in again? I've had my created guy as world champion before, seen the cash in option for the winner and went ahead and hit the cash in figuring I'd have a good match and see if I could beat the guy only to find out I have no choice but to be the guy cashing in. Also don't recall being able to play that match with another player. Really hope they fixed that.

Also, finally, when does the draft occur in Universe? I didn't try that, I'm sorry, I had a few days with the game, but it was playing everything. Hopefully someone else in a preview tried. I know you can cash it in at any point once a guy has the case.

Draft occurs after Mania.</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Sorry, for so many questions, just really trying to get something clarified. So, if I give ROH one of the other belts that are not one of the ones from the other two shows (World, WWE, Intercontinental, or US), will there be rankings for that belt? Or, are only the belts that were ranked last year, ranked this year?

I'll try to clarify this.

So Raw has the WWE Title and USA Title

ROH (Thursday show) has Random belt and Random Belt

Smackdown has World title and IC Title

Each show will have their own rankings for their own titles. Then you can lock down each show so only the participants on that show can compete for those titles.

Just some questions about the Draft show. I assume it takes place on the RAW or whatever you make the Monday show.

Is it all five matches are now a draft pick? Also is the pick random or do you choose who you want to move?

All the matches occur on Raw. And no, it's completely random. You can obviously move them back.

I didn't try if I cut Smackdown off from the draft what would happen, but my Thursday show was cut off and none of their wrestlers were involved.

So each match was a Raw (nitro) guy vs. Smackdown (raw) guy. Winner got the draft pick for their show.

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Hmm so u can change anything on PPV card? So does that mean it'll be all 3 shows combined? 34.gif </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Unfortunately, it is. Since out of the box it recognizes that it's WWE. But you have the editing power to make it 3 different brands that don't intersect except for PPV's. You can obviously change all the matches though.

It's a limitation I know they are looking to change, but not sure if it'll be ever given the green light by WWE. They don't have multiple PPV's a month so why would their game to accommodate other fed's. So the dev's basically found a way around the limitation. It works well.

Excellent I much prefer a random selection it makes it more exciting. I dont suppose you could tell us what Arenas are in the game?

I think they were all announced. Every PPV, Raw, Smackdown, Superstars, NXT, Nitro, Clash of the Champions and Starrcade.

It's too bad we can't go back to the era of single brand PPVs in the game, though.

Trust me, I agree. This does work though, makes it feel like there's a grand ol thing going on.

For example, I took all 3 champions of each fed and had a Hell in a Cell match at Night of the Champions. Gave it that grand feeling.

Oh so we can edit the matches on a PPV Card?

Yes, you can edit each match. If you want Raw only PPV January, then a Smackdown one in February, and then a ROH one in March, you can do that. Just have to edit before the show.

Did you try changing the participants in a PPV title match? Will that make it a non title match like last year? I know last year, if I wanted to add someone's manager to a title match, it made it non title at a ppv.

I was able to make a World Title match, but did not try editing them to see what happened.

Well that's not so bad, I suppose.

For me, I loved Universe mode last year, kept me playing the game, but at the same time, I HATED how limited it was. I expressed this when I met with the devs of WWE '12.

Most, not all mind you, of my issues have been fixed and this will eat up TONS of time.

I still wish I could book matches better and keep better track of feuds. Still needs to steal or buy a text sim to really get Universe to where it needs to be. And still needs to get it online!

We tried to get that across as much as possible.

But in the mean time, Universe 2.0 will make many "sim" guru's for wrestling very happy. Giggas was someone who immediately came to mind for me with this mode and when I was pressing questions about it.

1 does the mitb match have better ai are they smarter

2 does smackdown have the blue briefcase and raw a red one

3 could you explain some nex cutscenes

4 is blood still in if so does it look better

5 is every match on the draft show for 1 draft

or are there like matches what give you 2 picks

6 is wwe draft the only special show or are there shows like kotr and such

1. Not discussing the AI, this is just Universe, the in game wrestling AI is the same across all modes.

2. Didn't check to see colors, sorry.

3. ?

4. Blood looks fine, again, not pertaining to Universe.

5. 1 draft pick

6. Draft is the only special show. There is a Tribute to the Troops though.

Hey did u get a chance to see how MITB matches and cashing in works? What I mean, is;

1) Can you choose who you want in your MITB matches without it turning into a normal ladder match?

2) Can you play a Championship match before using the MITB winner to cash in, or is it still simulated to the winner?

3) Can you choose who you want to be when cashing in the briefcase?

I didn't edit one, sorry. Again, very limited time.

Did not try, I did cash in and the match was simulated. I was looking for that part, not the match part. Aagain, sorry.

You can choose to be whoever won the case, yes. Not sure if that answers your question.

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So there is only one MITB this year? Not a RAW and SD winner? It will be on it's own ppv right? No more WrestleMania MITB?

I'm pretty sure MITB was during Mania, but I may have it confused. I don't remember the PPV being in the game, I can be wrong. It's been awhile and I was overloaded with info during the 3-4 days.

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i meant to say could you talk about a few new cutscenes if there are any one's ofcourse </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

I didn't see any new ones but that doesn't mean there aren't any.

Seen anything to do with the Universe injuries?

No injuries.

I mean, you could do it yourself, but no official ones.

Universe and exhibition are separate right? One thing I hated was sitting making a sweet new entrance for a Caw, selecting a match to see it only to forget to turn off universe and being jumped during the entrance!

Yes, it's a seperate mode.

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1) The WWE Draft Event Is After EVERY WrestleMania?

2) When does Universe start, the Raw after WrestleMania in april like last year?

3) Does The Draft start Universe Mode if it does start in april after Mania like last year? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Draft is that Monday.

I want to say Universe starts in October. It didn't take long to get to the Rumble.

Now that time frame could easily move from my build to the final.

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Thanks For Answering! One more quick question that I can think of right now, Can CAWS be involved in the draft? I would be a little shocked and happy if they were involved because how do they have their picture for the draft?

They have the tile picture you made when you make the guy. Yes, they are involved.

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Could I theoretically remove every title except one and have that be the only title for the whole universe all three shows could fight for this one title? I would assume so, didn't try that.</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-image: url('/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif');width:37px;height:1px;" width="37"> </td> <td style="background-image: url('/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif');width:100%;height:1px;" width="100%">

All sounds great, thanks for answering all the questions you are the internets hero! Would you say it is a big improvement over last years universe? all the little annoyances fixed?

HUGE improvement. Still some annoyances which I detailed earleir, but overall, it'll eat away most of my time. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

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A stretch of a question, admittedly: is WWE Universe online-enabled? Another way of wording it: can I set up a WWE Universe, take it online, and invite friends to play with and against me in rivalries and for belts in the same Universe (presumably with some sort of locked timestep for results syncing / making sure everyone gets the same story path)?

If this doesn't exist in this year's game, is this some the dev team has expressed any interest in doing? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

No, not online in anyway.

Yes we had a long QA session back in June over it with ideas. It's talked about but not sure if possible.

Yeah I wanna say thanks too. One thing that pisses me off is when community guys get to go to these events and then don't bother answering any questions. Thanks for not being one of those guys.

I would like to know, what were your biggest issues with last year's Universe Mode and how have those been addressed this year. I know you said last year had limitations, but which ones bothered you?

I hated how I couldn't defend a belt when I wanted last year. Hated random tag teams breaking up. Hated the fact that after awhile it felt stale.

Having the ability to edit shows and more control gives this one a big thumbs up and will keep it continually fresh with user created content like Impact rings, ROH rings, WCCW rings, etc.

And you're welcome. I have 2 reasons to go to an event, one is to make the product better, and two is to relay whatever info I can to the community.

What are the minor annoyances?

No way to control feuds.

No way to edit rankings.

Still feel too much on the outside for me, if that makes sense.

Overall though, I do LOVE the mode.

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1: During the time you were playing, how many times do you think tag teams were broken up?

2: Were you able to choose Royal Rumble order? Like Sin Cara as #1 and Randy Orton as #40?

3: Were there any new cutscenes that caught your attention? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

1. None that I saw over a few month period but the one faction. No actual tag teams.

2. Didn't try, you could last year so I assume it's still in.

3. None that I saw or noticed.

Sorry, another question , Do you know if you can RESTART WWE Universe Mode 2.0? Thanks In Advance!

It was one of those things I kept wanting to ask and never did. Sorry.

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Any idea if the nitro theme is in the game, so I can make some classic WCW jobbers to be my punching bags for the undercard? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Didn't check frown.gif

You mentioned that mostly everything is editable, so can we edit the cut scenes? Basically is CAS implemented in Universe in some way?

Not in universe mode. But it's outside in the create a storyline like last year.

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Hi, you mentioned that you couldnt edit the rankings to make cody rhodes number 1 contender for every title. but you could give him a title shot whenever you wanted.

so does this mean that the rankings system dont really matter.

e.g. in week 1 if i wanted to could i make zack ryder vs randy orton for the world title on smackdown and have zack ryder win the world title even though hes not the no.1 contender and in all fairness has no right being in the world title picture? </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

It matters only in AI controlled matches/instances. You control everything if you want.

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Last year, I thought GM was pretty bad.

Every match it seemed to have a random interference during the entrances or a pre-emptive attack right before the match. Has this been changed? Is it more random? Last year it felt like it happened 50-70% of the time... would you say that it's a lot less?

Thanks.

A LOT less!

1 more question. Have you tried to interfere in an A.I Vs A.I match? If so how was it? I did not, but I did see it done. Looked fine.</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

can you please answer my questions as well .you answered everybodys except mine frown.gif

I scanned back and didn't see one, it wasn't on purpose. What was the question?

After your time with Universe 2.0, what do you think it still lacks? anything you expected in it but isn't?

I answered this a few times already.

Wish I had more control would be my biggest wish. Wish I could control feuds more, control rankings more, outcomes, etc.

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hey bro thanks for taking time to answer us.. i got some questions as well

1.THis is a SOS question : is the AI any better?are the matches actually challenging this time? i know its not about universe but i plead you to answer since this is my main concern(btw did you play on legend diffuculty level?)

2.any nxt modes?

3.anything completely new at universe except tweeked stuff? i know about draft but what else?

thank you

Found your questions.

1. doesn't pertain to Universe

2. Not in Universe.

3. I went through new, changed stuff over many posts.

alrighty thank you . lets just hope ai is good : (

at least answer me this one : is the universe mod FUN or too easy ? ( just this)

Too easy is subjective on anyone's skill level.

Fun, hell yes. Had a blast with it. Felt (almost) like a Vinny Mac Jr.

Any exciting detail that surprised you? That you didn't expect and stood out of the whole experience?

Not really. I was just happy most of my gripes were fixed. I mean there's nothing that made me get out of my seat and get excited like in RTWM mode.

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A few questions I have, if you wouldn't mind answering them

1. With the ability to edit all three shows, does that mean that the middle show (Superstars or whatever) has a roster? Last year, I tried to make ECW my middle show but since they didn't recognize the roster, they never appeared on the show.

2. With three different rosters, do you have any idea of how the draft would work?

3. Is there any qualifying matches this year, ie elimination chamber qualifier, etc?

4. Is the allies and rivalries better this year? Last year, it seemed like every time I looked at my roster, no one was allied or rivaled, even though I just set them up a few weeks prior.

5. With there being 23 titles in the game, how many can be active at once, and how many can be on each show?

1. Yes, the 3rd show can have it's own roster and be completely independent from other shows if you want.

2. I do not know, I made TNA independent but had Raw/Smackdown, so they were the only rosters in the draft.

3. Not that I saw.

4. About the same unfortunately.

5. Pretty sure 2 titles per show plus tag belts.

Thanks for the answers. I guess that means the female gendered championship are getting scrapped, unless they don't count towards that number.

One more question, with the ability to make title matches whenever you want, is that limited to a particular match type, or could I say make a Armageddon Hell In A Cell Match on Smackdown for the World Heavyweight Title whenever I want?

Sorry, I never pay attention to Diva's LOL, Their titles are there.

Yes

How are we supposed to wait one more month for this game? lol, what would you recommend?

I played it in June and August, put yourselves in my shoes! LOL I'd rather be in yours and be excited without playing it. It's like having your favorite toy ripped from your hands and having to wait a long time to play with it again! LOL

I've got a few comments sent to me privately about why I didn't try this mode or that.

It all came down to time guys. In June I played RTWM and single/multiplayer. Universe wasn't ready yet.

In August I played Universe for about 4 hours total. I tried to do as much as I could so I could cover as much as I could, but you have to realize at the same time, I wanted to see things I wanted to see and experiment with that. So example of not trying interferring in a match, I just didn't get to it.

I wish I could have played it for 40 hours straight and been able to give you all the ins and outs. I'm trying with what I can though.

Sorry if I haven't answered anyone's question thorough enough.

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Just read through the whole thread and I have to say thanks for doing this, Scott.

1- Are there 30 or 40 competitors in the Royal Rumble this year?

2- Can you put a Diva (i.e. Beth Phoenix, Kharma) in the Royal Rumble?

3- Can you still pin guys outside the ring in an Elimination Chamber match?

4- Does the Undertaker automatically get two WrestleMania matches if he already has a title like last year?

5- Is the Million Dollar belt still in the game?

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1. 40

2. Did not attempt it, I turn off Diva's. LOL

3. Did not try, never played it in Universe.

4. It happened in my Universe, was told it wouldn't in retail. Who knows.

5. Embargo smile.gif

6. Still the same, 6.

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