Question bout non unlockables

[GMZombie]

I was wondering this when i was reading a game faqs post. first is there .mdl files in the game like somone said. with that being said if there is couldnt we just import a mdl from persay sym for hogan and hardy? im just asking cause if there is models then that would seem like it would work. but im no hacker and never posed as one either so i have no idea. but if this is mabye possible im willing to help any way possible by burning dvd's and or testing or whatever i can do to help. thanx

[RTReaper]

hopefully someone will take this into consideration, but the majority if the times, these guys act like a bunch of stuck up teenage girls.......

[caseyjones]

The model system for SYM is completely different than the one for HCTP so even if it was possible it wouldn't work..and RTReaper who the fuck do you think you are to talk about these people like that. People have lives other than this message board so don't get all pissy because somebody doesn't answer your question right away.

[GMZombie]

ok then not a problem but do u think it may be possible to put in a dummy mdl like someone supposedly did in smackdown 4? hopefully it is possible to do. is there .mdls on the dvd somewhere or sumthing?

[chinhouse]

hopefully someone will take this into consideration, but the majority if the times, these guys act like a bunch of stuck up teenage girls.......

And to add what Casey had to say ...

RTReaper, for someone who has not been a member of this board for even a week, you have some nerve making such comments. Even though you're an "Advanced Member", I have seen very little from you that's been useful or informative. So in other words, to quote one of your earlier, grammatically and typographically challenged posts: "who thefuck are u to disrepect anyone"

Edited December 13, 2003 by chinhouse

[RTReaper]

heh, i got some attention there, didnt I, lol.......

who am i, u ask? i am who i want to be, i am me, always been me, and alway has been me, maybe u were around when smackdown 2 and 1 was being ahcked by slim at smackhacks, the ORIGINAL board smacktalks, i have plenty enemies there, and why do i say such things, simply cause a lot of my ideas and requests, are pretty good, and simply cause im a nobody here, i get hardly any replys, or even a thought that my ideas are good, when at LEAST im trying to add some replay value to this game, yea it took a while, but the people at the original smacktalks started appreciating my ideas, and my disrespect to some of the assholes who were there, and yea, i was banned by some prick named JKFdragon some shit, and i came back as the Prince, the Dark Prince, and my respect was earned and given to me quik, even by HIM, he realized that it i dont just talk smack about people, i speak the truth, and yea the board is great, but the problem is, u guys are too comfortable with yoursleves, and yall think your so great, when theres only 2 people here that i have respect for and thats Trigin, and the toko somethin guy, who ive noticed has a lot of codes created by him himslef, reminds me of Geodim and Slim back in the days, i gave them there respect, and i never had nada bad to say about them, they listened and replied with HONEST replys, not some smart mouthed shit, back talk, to look coo in front of your freinds in this board, i dont need none of your respect, i just simply like seeing results, and happy people when some of my requests are made, and look at the Special Royal Rumble, i was the first guy who requested this not only on this board, but like 4 weeks ago on another board, and YES, people want this, its FUN, and i like to see people have FUN with there games and matches, i take no credit in the match, and i need no credit even for the idea for the match, i just want people to understand that, im not gonna request some CRAP just so u guys waist your time dudes, u guys have lives, EVERYONE does, so why would i want u guys waisting it on making CRAP??? get my drift? u guys are hacking GREAT here, i like that, and all im doin, is sittin the standards a bit higher, requesting somethin that sounds great and can be possible, i didnt say U had to make the damn hack, it would just be nice to have, and i wont be the only one using the damn cheat, and that includes the CREATOR of the code/codes, trust me, people WILL play a Special Royal Rumble, people WILL use the Elemination Rules in there matches, and when i request another idea, they WILL want to know what it is im talkin about, cause theyll see my post and be like, hey thats the guy who first requested some of the funnest matches that ive ever played in this game, lets see what hes got to say.........

[caseyjones]

You typed an entire page and yet you said nothing.

[RTReaper]

u must not understand, but i can care less about that, heres a example of what im talkin about, i request what the PEOPLE want, and since im not a hacker, its a good idea, to take into consideration what ive requested, most people WILL use what i request, its as simple as that, u give what the people want, and it gives them more inspiration to wanna come back, or to join your site.

[TheRob]

Actually, Reaper has a point and I do understand what he's saying. I don't see what is so hard to understand. He's simply saying that he wants to contribute to the site, and since he's not a hacker the next best thing to do is come up with good requests, ideas for what the hackers might be able to do. The request might not be able to be filled, or might be. However, the point is to get people to think about new hacks that may or may not add to the replay value of the game. I respect his intentions.

[BigBossman]

I second that motion.

[DRAVEN]

it may work importing a .mdl files as all they do was take sym and give it some heavy teaking...... all the wrestlers names are there but i'ver no models or there on the DVD but been rename???

it would be good if someone could put uthe game on a PC and have a look and see what is on it, I know someone at gamefaqs list all the music in the game???

[jitz]

The model system for SYM is completely different than the one for HCTP so even if it was possible it wouldn't work

Not true at all. I was actually thinking of this idea the other day and I reckon it is possible. The engine is the same, it's been modified to include the new grapple system and submission systems and stuff but the models are exactly the same, and they have been since the first SmackDown!. You would have to replace an existing wrestler, then you would only have to change their move set to match the imported wrestler. It should all work fine, the model information is just telling the PS2 where the polygons go and the colour palette, nothing to do with any of the new stuff added.

So yeah it should work.

[Supa #2]

Have fun

[caseyjones]

I understand what RTReaper is saying i just don't agree that requesting stuff is contributing to the site. I don't claim to contribute to the site but if i wanted to I could do what some other people do and just take caws and codes from other sites and post them here but I don't see that as contributing either.

________

Oops. I thought that the models were different for HCTP because of the different figure settings.

Edited December 15, 2003 by caseyjones

[RingMaster2001]

heh, i got some attention there, didnt I, lol.......

who am i, u ask? i am who i want to be, i am me, always been me, and alway has been me, maybe u were around when smackdown 2 and 1 was being ahcked by slim at smackhacks, the ORIGINAL board smacktalks, i have plenty enemies there, and why do i say such things, simply cause a lot of my ideas and requests, are pretty good, and simply cause im a nobody here, i get hardly any replys, or even a thought that my ideas are good, when at LEAST im trying to add some replay value to this game, yea it took a while, but the people at the original smacktalks started appreciating my ideas, and my disrespect to some of the assholes who were there, and yea, i was banned by some prick named JKFdragon some shit, and i came back as the Prince, the Dark Prince, and my respect was earned and given to me quik, even by HIM, he realized that it i dont just talk smack about people, i speak the truth, and yea the board is great, but the problem is, u guys are too comfortable with yoursleves, and yall think your so great, when theres only 2 people here that i have respect for and thats Trigin, and the toko somethin guy, who ive noticed has a lot of codes created by him himslef, reminds me of Geodim and Slim back in the days, i gave them there respect, and i never had nada bad to say about them, they listened and replied with HONEST replys, not some smart mouthed shit, back talk, to look coo in front of your freinds in this board, i dont need none of your respect, i just simply like seeing results, and happy people when some of my requests are made, and look at the Special Royal Rumble, i was the first guy who requested this not only on this board, but like 4 weeks ago on another board, and YES, people want this, its FUN, and i like to see people have FUN with there games and matches, i take no credit in the match, and i need no credit even for the idea for the match, i just want people to understand that, im not gonna request some CRAP just so u guys waist your time dudes, u guys have lives, EVERYONE does, so why would i want u guys waisting it on making CRAP??? get my drift? u guys are hacking GREAT here, i like that, and all im doin, is sittin the standards a bit higher, requesting somethin that sounds great and can be possible, i didnt say U had to make the damn hack, it would just be nice to have, and i wont be the only one using the damn cheat, and that includes the CREATOR of the code/codes, trust me, people WILL play a Special Royal Rumble, people WILL use the Elemination Rules in there matches, and when i request another idea, they WILL want to know what it is im talkin about, cause theyll see my post and be like, hey thats the guy who first requested some of the funnest matches that ive ever played in this game, lets see what hes got to say.........

that is completely bullshit. you are a noone. you think this is wrestling. i was at Slim's ST from the near start and i have no clue who you are. you only know about this because i mentioned him and geodim in another post and you asked who slim was and what the link to his board was. you dont take "No" for an answer, you cant hack anything. Noone is going to take notice of codes that cannot be done that you request and when people say no you get on your high horse. I am sick to death of people claiming to know all and they know fuck all. Please shut up.

[chinhouse]

I haven't been here for a month, so I still haven't quite formed an opinion on if making requests is contributing to the board or not. Regardless of the consensus on that, I find Reaper's attitude unnecessarily negative and unhelpful. If he's going to act like an ass -- the least he could do is be entertaining, but he's not even that.

[GMZombie]

ok guys back to the problem on hand if you wold please. Dr jitz believes that this could be possible. i dunno who is a hacker and who isnt on this site besides trigin and tobi but i reckon we see what they have to say. if this can be done im willing to get rid of some chars just to have a few in that wernt in the game now. so if we can get some ideas or if anybody knows how to go about doing this i will be more than happy to be a guinea pig for burning dvds. so whatever it takes lets get these guys in that game if possible. cool

[Supa #2]

In general, all of the people who are regular posters in the general discussion and people who are mods and the admins know how to hack, but most of them are just too lazy to do it anymore or they just dont care.

[RTReaper]

umm, dude, i was RTReaper back then, and i still am, i remember people like UNDERTAKER BA, Skeetlemoose, JKF, who of course i hated, Vanilla Star Fish, Chocalate Star Fish, and many others, it was a coo place, and after some respect, people stared likin me, they even talked shit to jkf when i was banned, and then i came back as The Dark Prince, and for some reason, i think people recocgnized my attitude, and they KNEW that i was RTReaper, lol, and i did make 1 code, Elemination Rulez.

I remeber all the scaffolds, Blood Arena, Expanded Hell in a Cell, that the climbing didnt work, 3 story HITC, the unlockable masks from SD1 unlocked, and a bunch of other shit, like combining moves to make new moves, it was a pimp site, eve after geodim left, it was pimp when he came back, it was just good overall site, hardly ANYONE acted like a stuck up little girl, we were just a bunch of guys trying to make a bad ass game, even more bad ass then what it was, and they succeeded...

and The Rob, thank u for your thoughts.

another thing, someone mentioned if maybe u can take wrestlers from SD4 and toss em into SD5, but i think there would be problems, cause of the graphics for 1, and the grapple system, it would be a incomplete import i beleive.

[RingMaster2001]

if thats the case, you should remember a member called Robot2k.

[RTReaper]

yea, i might remeber the name, but im not sure, cause i didnt talk to u much, but anyway....

I rmember playin with pin on/off value, and i eneded up getting the elemination rulez the first time a while back, im gonna do the same and hopefully get the code for smackdown 5, ill post some updates, so far, i found a code that turns off all kos, pins, and giveup, useless code though.

[jitz]

another thing, someone mentioned if maybe u can take wrestlers from SD4 and toss em into SD5, but i think there would be problems, cause of the graphics for 1, and the grapple system, it would be a incomplete import i beleive.

The graphic quality won't matter at all, it holds no bearing on whether the PS2 will run it or not. Look at Jazz, it's that same model used last year. The two games are completely compatible. And I also said that the new grapple system won't matter either (don't you read), models do what they're told by the engine. The models don't "talk" to the grapple system, the grapple system "talks" to them. The grapple syustem informations isn't in the models. It's surprising how you call yourself a hacker and have so little knowledge of how everything works.

That's hackers these days, all gung ho "yeah I can make a fourty foot HIAC with a cage on top". It's all theory people, knowing if something will work before you start. The actual practical hacking portion is just half of it.