HEY GUYS

[CanaMatt]

Whats crackin with ya'll?? Due to some legal/moral issues I am unable to share some of the subsequent info with anybody I know IRL, so YOU GUYS will be who I'll keep updated with this shit.

I decided it was time to get into shape here not that long ago, and managed to drop down to quite a decent level of bodyfat in just a month, but decided i was lookin a bit scrawny(this picture was taken in about may):

I have since gained 20 pounds of mostly clean mass, though the gut is a little blurrier since(this one is about 2 weeks old from now):

NOW THE KICKER HERE, keep this shit on the downlow guys, but starting monday I will be shooting up testosterone ethanate(ILLEGAL ANABOLIC STEROIDS HOLY FUCK MATT IS HARDCORE) twice a week for 12 weeks. It will be doctor administered, and supervised. I'll be posting all of the details, progress, and pics every two weeks. Unless nobody is interested I suppose, then I'll just kill myself or something.

The only people that even know about this shit IRL are my brother, my doctor, my training partner, and roommate, so don't go posting it on my facebook or something.

[Thom]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564953/20070717/index.jhtml

[CanaMatt]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564953/20070717/index.jhtml

he was pretty jacked though

[Aero]

Dear facebook....

[CS]

Unfortunately I too have dabbled in steroids in my quest to have my body reach the size that my mouth is. I may have studded my growth doing it becuase I've been stuck at 5'11 for a year and a half now though, I did one cycle of deca at 300mml for 8 weeks and well it sure was an experience.

The advantage of having your doctor involved is huge, I was only 17 at the time(yes, I know) and had to inject myself and couldn't even consider telling my doctor because if your under 18 and harming your body doctors have an obligation to tell your parents, I had really no explanation on what to expect besides what I found on the net which wasn't much. I had myself half expecting to die because if you accidentally put it into your bloodstream that's bye bye.

The only thing I can really say is the area they were injected will feel very sore for the first few hours and keep ice of it and try not to sleep on area they put in. Also be ready for the temper, you won't notice it at first but it comes along pretty quickly once you start working out with them in your system, you'll still have control over it but you'll defiantly feel a difference in how much control you still have.

As for what happened, I gained about 15-17 pounds of muscle and lost basicly all body fat. Got in little more than usual amount of fights and my god don't get into a fight with some when no one else is around to stop it when the time comes, your anger never stops climbing in a fight. Take this seriously when I say you'll need to have somebody there to pull you off if you start taking it to far and there's a good chance you will. There was one fight it got in where at one point we were against a wall both throwing shots and I clipped his chin with an uppercut and felt his knees shake so I threw him down and started kicking and and whaling on his face like a fucking madman till someone pulled me off, you won't fucking stop.

[jitz]

Good times!

[CanaMatt]

Unfortunately I too have dabbled in steroids in my quest to have my body reach the size that my mouth is. I may have studded my growth doing it becuase I've been stuck at 5'11 for a year and a half now though, I did one cycle of deca at 300mml for 8 weeks and well it sure was an experience.

The advantage of having your doctor involved is huge, I was only 17 at the time(yes, I know) and had to inject myself and couldn't even consider telling my doctor because if your under 18 and harming your body doctors have an obligation to tell your parents, I had really no explanation on what to expect besides what I found on the net which wasn't much. I had myself half expecting to die because if you accidentally put it into your bloodstream that's bye bye.

The only thing I can really say is the area they were injected will feel very sore for the first few hours and keep ice of it and try not to sleep on area they put in. Also be ready for the temper, you won't notice it at first but it comes along pretty quickly once you start working out with them in your system, you'll still have control over it but you'll defiantly feel a difference in how much control you still have.

As for what happened, I gained about 15-17 pounds of muscle and lost basicly all body fat. Got in little more than usual amount of fights and my god don't get into a fight with some when no one else is around to stop it when the time comes, your anger never stops climbing in a fight. Take this seriously when I say you'll need to have somebody there to pull you off if you start taking it to far and there's a good chance you will. There was one fight it got in where at one point we were against a wall both throwing shots and I clipped his chin with an uppercut and felt his knees shake so I threw him down and started kicking and and whaling on his face like a fucking madman till someone pulled me off, you won't fucking stop.

CS do you got msn?? Add matthew_gray@live.com

[Niles Jansen The Third]

Unfortunately I too have dabbled in steroids in my quest to have my body reach the size that my mouth is. I may have studded my growth doing it becuase I've been stuck at 5'11 for a year and a half now though, I did one cycle of deca at 300mml for 8 weeks and well it sure was an experience.

The advantage of having your doctor involved is huge, I was only 17 at the time(yes, I know) and had to inject myself and couldn't even consider telling my doctor because if your under 18 and harming your body doctors have an obligation to tell your parents, I had really no explanation on what to expect besides what I found on the net which wasn't much. I had myself half expecting to die because if you accidentally put it into your bloodstream that's bye bye.

The only thing I can really say is the area they were injected will feel very sore for the first few hours and keep ice of it and try not to sleep on area they put in. Also be ready for the temper, you won't notice it at first but it comes along pretty quickly once you start working out with them in your system, you'll still have control over it but you'll defiantly feel a difference in how much control you still have.

As for what happened, I gained about 15-17 pounds of muscle and lost basicly all body fat. Got in little more than usual amount of fights and my god don't get into a fight with some when no one else is around to stop it when the time comes, your anger never stops climbing in a fight. Take this seriously when I say you'll need to have somebody there to pull you off if you start taking it to far and there's a good chance you will. There was one fight it got in where at one point we were against a wall both throwing shots and I clipped his chin with an uppercut and felt his knees shake so I threw him down and started kicking and and whaling on his face like a fucking madman till someone pulled me off, you won't fucking stop.

Shit eh? I was thinking about getting M-test during football season. How long until you started seeing results?

[CS]

C.J. you think your seeing results within days but its either a very small difference or all in your head, people start noticing in the 2-3 week after and start getting suspicious around week 5 depending on when they first notice a difference. Testosterone is the safest one for your first cycle as its already getting produced naturally, if your only considering it and not thinking about it seriously I recommend going to a supplement store and trying test booster before going right to pure test. It's completely safe and a buddy of mine used it 3 times over one semester and gained about 10 pounds of muscle during that time.

There's one thing you want to be very careful about when using steroids when your still young is that when you inject a steroid into your body it stops producing testosterone and I had never even heard of that until I was 3 weeks into my cycle and was already in a nose dive towards depression at that point but very very luckily a guy I knew at the gym had some test on hand at home in his stack he was getting ready to use. God that could have been disastrous, starting my senior year while falling into a manic depression while on steroids stuck in a school with about 25 hours of football each week.

If your just doing test you shouldn't have to worry about that just make sure your doctor does some cautionary tests after to make sure your testosterone levels go back to normal. One thing you want might to have your doctor checking on if possible(I don't know if they can test for it) is how much of the test is converging into estrogen(where bitch tits on body builders come from) every body reacts differently to test and that's usually where the side effects come from when body can't use the full amount of test its given.

To make it clear I don't want/recommend anyone who's body isn't fully matured yet to try any kind of steroid, it can do serious damage to your body and even stop producing test permanently meaning you'll be taking test the rest of your life just to keep it at normal levels, I've had my test levels checked since I've turned 18 and thankfully everything was perfectly normal. It's a lot more dangerous when your younger because your body is still producing high levels of test naturally and to hit the off shut on it like that is incredibly dangerous, I'm still not even sure if it'll have any lasting effects on me yet or if it still is for that matter.

[Smacktalks]

It should be safe if your doctors administering it.

I mean, MJ turned out ok, right?

[Nemo]

cj, you take steroids to play high school football? what are you fucking stupid?

[Niles Jansen The Third]

cj, you take steroids to play high school football? what are you fucking stupid?

I was definitly thinking about it, yeah. There are some massive kids out there.

It's like a whole other world when you're surrounded by people who are all trying to be better and stronger. Hard work only gets people so far in competition where others are taking the stuff. If you're not on them you have to be ready to take on kids who looked like 40 year old men.

[crunk]

I'm not at all even thinking about taking them, but what's the deal with them training/eating wise? Do you step it up a few notches with them or just continue with your normal routine?

Edited July 27, 2009 by Joe =/

[Nemo]

cj, you take steroids to play high school football? what are you fucking stupid?

I was definitly thinking about it, yeah. There are some massive kids out there.

It's like a whole other world when you're surrounded by people who are all trying to be better and stronger. Hard work only gets people so far in competition where others are taking the stuff. If you're not on them you have to be ready to take on kids who looked like 40 year old men.

oh mercy, mercy me, things aint the way they used to be. i understand your dilemma, but my logical half refuses to accept the fact that it's anything other than moronic to harm yourself in the long run just to be better at a meaningless school activity.

also, cs, you guiding them through taking steroids is like that black guy guiding matt through smoking crack. i don't even need a punchline there.

[CanaMatt]

lmfao sal. He was white okay. You're definitely not making me look like less of a moron here.

CJ post your height, weight, diet, lifting schedule, and your age please.

[Fozy]

I think it's very weird that you're all chatting about steroids on a wrestling message board, it's so funny to listen to. Then getting all serious about it like it's REALLY important. Hehe.

[Aero]

who deleted my posts?

[Joe =/]

Me. I cleaned the topic because it was rapidly turning into an argument and I'm sure Matt doesn't want his post flooded with rubbish...

I deleted your jokey post because it was what caused certain people to start crying about immaturity

[Aero]

Take this seriously when I say you'll need to have somebody there to pull you off

[RingMaster2001]

lmao

Don't knock a homoerotic roid rage until you've tried it Aero.

Also, is this thread serious? Really serious? I can't believe we have someone on here ridiculously stupid enough to use steroids for school PE, I can't believe we've got someone stupid enough who didn't think about stopping steroids when they noticed it caused them to get into fights and unable to quell their anger.

Oh wait, yes I can.

Except Matt. Because without him, the world would be a sadder shade of Gray.

[Aero]

im not knocking anything, its just a funny qoute...

do steroids not make ur cock smaller?

[CS]

That rumor is partially true unfortunately, its your balls that decrease in size while on them because of the lack of test in you and go back to normal size after it cycles out of you.

I'm not guiding anyone through anything, I gave my story so the people here who are considering them know what its like. Did I make it sound very pleasant? I told C.J. to try a legal over the counter supplement instead Sal, how is that guiding?

[Aero]

giving advice / suggestions could be deemed guiding!

[RingMaster2001]

It is deemed guiding. Stupid to say it's anything else.

[Aero]

lmao didnt want to make him feel like a complete idiot there martin... ah well lol