It's Amazing, Really...

[RingMaster2001]

The shit you get when people think you are new.

If you all haven't realised yet, yes I am The Guest.

Reasoning being: I reformatted my computer, and started posting as a guest without registering, but once seeing what people thought of that, and berated the person they didn't know, I relished registering as a new person altogether.

I had hardly been on Smacktalks before this, but it definitely made me more interested.

Iain - despite me and him not really getting along personally, he is a top notch moderator, and a top notch bloke towards noobs. Well done. +10 Bizangs.

Chris - initially, was an arse (I don't think he'd have wanted it any other way), but after a mini-argument with him, that was all was needed and he became much friendlier afterwards.

Bizang - I'm disappointed, especially here; http://smacktalks.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=27668 although that was the only topic, so maybe it was down to the fact that he woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I always liked you, so I can forgive and forget. -2 Bizangs I'm afraid.

Phil - Oh dear. Oh dear. Prime example of how not to treat new people. Especially when I take a look at replies he gave me beforehand, which upon hindsight, can be seen as nothing but arse kissing. Iain has been 100% right in your suspension -10 Bizangs.

CJ/CS/System of a Daan - Coming in with the big I Ams to try and get some bonus Bizangs from the member hierachy. Or maybe they were just trying out their penis enlargment pills for the first time. -5 Bizangs for CJ, -2 for CS and System of a Daan.

Now, I've always been an arsehole (as many, many long time members will back up), and yet have never really been treated the way I have been since they didn't know who I was. I find that quite sad to be honest. Especially when some of the members realised they bit off a little more than they could chew, argument-wise.

Aero - Many thanks, would not have been possible without your support and camouflage

Paul - So close to fucking all this up. Disappointed in you. -2 Bizangs, and from now on I'm going to call you "Corporate Paul".

That is all.

[CS]

Now here's something I disagree with you on, I may have gone a little far but the fact is I was assuming you were new and advised you to settle down before everyone thinks your a douche. No wonder I thought so, talk about me coming in with a big I Am yet you try to give the person who invented them -Bizangs, it's even fucking named after him.

I might be trying me them for the first few times but your chugging the whole fucking thing thinking your superior enough to secretly test people then publicly review them including the owner of the board.

But since you've been here forever I'm immediatly wrong on this one ofcourse.

[Subrick]

So what, none for Chris?

I demand a recount, dammit!

[RingMaster2001]

To CS...

You 'advised' me to settle down over 24 hours after all arguments ceased. That is a failure when it comes to moderating, as it only reignites the arguments.

Secondly, you have little warrant in telling people to settle down whilst you are calling people 'cunts' when they get on your nerves.

Also, I don't think Big Bizang created the Bizangs points, infact, they hardly mean anything other than a way for me to express my displeasure at the moment. I don't see why your knickers are getting in such a twist about that, young man.

I may have gone a little far but the fact is I was assuming you were new

Mistake number three, you've just admitted targetting one person for assuming they were new. Well done in mucking up there. Take Iain's lead, and respect people until they disrespect you, no matter how new they are.

Finally, your moderatorship extends to the Sports Discussion forum only, if you are going to go on the big I Am and try to exert your authority, try keeping it to a forum where you actually have some authority in the future.

Edited April 12, 2009 by RingMaster2001

[Aero]

also... why was i not given bizangs for my camouflaging??

aha nah, actually i dont care for bizangs... never mind.... was fun while it lasted i guess

[RingMaster2001]

So what, none for Chris?

I demand a recount, dammit!

What Chris got minuses for was cancelled out afterwards.

You've pleasantly surprised me actually Subrick, you ain't half as bad as you use to be.

[RingMaster2001]

also... why was i not given bizangs for my camouflaging??

aha nah, actually i dont care for bizangs... never mind.... was fun while it lasted i guess

You get a Special Honorary Bizang and an invite to a garden party from the Queen.

[Subrick]

Just don't touch her! Glenn Beck'll shit himself if you do!

[CS]

To CS...

You 'advised' me to settle down over 24 hours after all arguments ceased. That is a failure when it comes to moderating, as it only reignites the arguments.

Secondly, you have little warrant in telling people to settle down whilst you are calling people 'cunts' when they get on your nerves.

Also, I don't think Big Bizang created the Bizangs points, infact, they hardly mean anything other than a way for me to express my displeasure at the moment. I don't see why your knickers are getting in such a twist about that, young man.

I may have gone a little far but the fact is I was assuming you were new

Mistake number three, you've just admitted targetting one person for assuming they were new. Well done in mucking up there. Take Iain's lead, and respect people until they disrespect you, no matter how new they are.

Finally, your moderatorship extends to the Sports Discussion forum only, if you are going to go on the big I Am and try to exert your authority, try keeping it to a forum where you actually have some authority in the future.

Posts were still being made today, on this board I call that ongoing.

Haha oh the humor in going after me being a mod, I don't think I've made one topic in that forum since being modded so go right ahead, it's only a title.

Yes I was targeting you but I was targeting advice at you a little agressively maybe but still advice. Saying that is like saying cupid should be arrested for shooting people arrows of love of whatever they are, a little extreme I know but it works. There was some vulgar language thrown in and thats because I'm in a dick but it still remains that I was recommending you not to act like a douche so much when your new because a reputation can build quickly.

I don't understand how I was in the wrong there, I was following the moderator ways and giving advice to a new member. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do? Also, don't act like I'm the first mod ever to swear at noobs, I don't even consider myself a mod so I don't see how it applys but I'd like to see Pauls opinion on mods only giving out adivce in there own forum. Go on now, lets see what ya gotta say.

[RingMaster2001]

Posts were still being made today, on this board I call that ongoing.

Check the post where you stuck your whore in. You'll notice no argument happened for 24 hours. That is, until you did sitck your whore in.

Haha oh the humor in going after me being a mod, I don't think I've made one topic in that forum since being modded so go right ahead, it's only a title.

Yes I was targeting you but I was targeting advice at you a little agressively maybe but still advice. Saying that is like saying cupid should be arrested for shooting people arrows of love of whatever they are, a little extreme I know but it works. There was some vulgar language thrown in and thats because I'm in a dick but it still remains that I was recommending you not to act like a douche so much when your new because a reputation can build quickly.

I don't understand how I was in the wrong there, I was following the moderator ways and giving advice to a new member. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do? Also, don't act like I'm the first mod ever to swear at noobs

You are contradicting yourself here. You don't get about being a mod; yet you are acting in the moderator way and are taking offence about me picking you up on your swearing. Hmm.

Firstly, I didn't say once or imply you were the first moderator to swear, every mod swears, you however get involved in arguments of no concern to you, call people "cunts", and cause the arguments to grow in proportion.

For reference, look at this thread;

http://smacktalks.org/forums/index.php?sho...40&start=40

Phil would have shut up a long time ago there had you have, plus, Iain had suspended him once, there is a protocol for that in one of the thread in this forum. If you are following the moderator route, I'd advise actually doing it as was laid out there.

Plus, where is your good ol' parable style advice there?

I'd like to see Pauls opinion on mods only giving out adivce in there own forum. Go on now, lets see what ya gotta say.

Several people have been demodded for abusing their power outside of the forums. See TheDon.

[Subrick]

Speaking of Don, did he die or something? I've seen him like once in months.

[CS]

Stuck my whore in? If you want to be a cunt about it thats fine.

Firstly you called someone a hypocrate today in that topic, on a board where posts take days to respond I call that ongoing.

I was not condradicting myself, I implied that I irrelevantly did what mods are supossed to even though I didn't take into consideration what a mod would do hence the don't consider myself one, I was just trying to give some advice.

The only I defended my language is becasue you went after it, nobody wants to look like a fool. I also already stated in another arguement with you today that I'm an dick, ofcourse I'm going to swear.

[RingMaster2001]

Another argument? it's the same one.

If you are going to be a dick, and by your definition that is to swear at people snappingly and prolong arguments (see thread I was referring to above), then your advice is worth a cup of cold piss. Especially when you are trying to give advice trying to make someone stop being a "douche".

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Please continue, I'll pick up where I left off in the morning.

[CS]

I never gave a definition of dick, all I did use use it as a reference to why I was swearing. It has many more meanings.

For the prolonging arguement part, as I said before I only come on here every fews days, if you say nothing you get nothing in return. Why would I want to come on a board and just make comments on things already past by 3 hours old which is apperently their expiry date that aren't good enough to get a response.

How is advicing a new member not to be a such a douchebag when he's only been on the board for less than two months such a low thing to do? Your not going to get along with everyone very well if they already think your a douche.

[crunk]

Even though you didn't mention me in your initial post, I still stand by what I said.

[Niles Jansen The Third]

I don't see me as having been I Am-ish at all. I knew you weren't a new member I just thought you had it out for me until I realized I was reading and responding improperly. I even admitted to being wrong, so I don't see how I'm -5?

If anything, I was the one going on the defensive, not quite me being rude to a new member.

[Big Bizang]

I find it a little bit pious of you to test us and then judge us in one big topic in general chat. Although you readily admit to being a bit of an arse in your opening lines too so I guess you're covered there.

I felt like kind of leaving you to it seeing as I had an inkling that The Guest was someone who had been here before just didn't realise it was you. That Jericho topic I can totally hold my hands up to though, I did get up on the wrong side of the bed and was just generally being a bit shitty. The fact that I didn't even think to follow the topic after my comments I think shows that I wasn't looking to rip into a 'new' guy, rather I was just being moody for whatever reason.

For the record the Bizang system was named after me (and not the other way round no way am I that lame) but it was invented by Jitz and was quite funny for a while. I still smile when someone remembers it.

[System of a Daan]

What you frankly don't realise is that most of us weren't being such douches before you came and acted all elitist and unforgiving. Except for phil ofc. He seems to be out of hand.

Really, the fact that you are apparently testing us made this post all the stupider. How did I try to come in with big I Ams to get Bizangs? I gave my opinion on you, your behaviour and I'll agree that I could

[RingMaster2001]

I never gave a definition of dick, all I did use use it as a reference to why I was swearing. It has many more meanings.

For the prolonging arguement part, as I said before I only come on here every fews days, if you say nothing you get nothing in return. Why would I want to come on a board and just make comments on things already past by 3 hours old which is apperently their expiry date that aren't good enough to get a response.

How is advicing a new member not to be a such a douchebag when he's only been on the board for less than two months such a low thing to do? Your not going to get along with everyone very well if they already think your a douche.

You are not understanding the fact that advice is seldom wanted from a "dick". You had gave the big I Am by trying to advise new members when you are hardly the pinnacle of a decent member.

Even though you didn't mention me in your initial post, I still stand by what I said.

I wasn't going to mention you because you simply misinterpreted a post from being a joke and taking it far too serious. I stand by what I said; "touchy touchy".

I don't see me as having been I Am-ish at all. I knew you weren't a new member I just thought you had it out for me until I realized I was reading and responding improperly. I even admitted to being wrong, so I don't see how I'm -5?

If anything, I was the one going on the defensive, not quite me being rude to a new member.

I didn't see you admit to being wrong, please show, and I'll happily apologise.

I find it a little bit pious of you to test us and then judge us in one big topic in general chat. Although you readily admit to being a bit of an arse in your opening lines too so I guess you're covered there.

If you mean pious as in virtuous (as I hope), thank you very much

I felt like kind of leaving you to it seeing as I had an inkling that The Guest was someone who had been here before just didn't realise it was you. That Jericho topic I can totally hold my hands up to though, I did get up on the wrong side of the bed and was just generally being a bit shitty. The fact that I didn't even think to follow the topic after my comments I think shows that I wasn't looking to rip into a 'new' guy, rather I was just being moody for whatever reason.

Yeah, and I said that. You are a top member, Bizang, and I've always liked you. Purely heterosexual of course.

What you frankly don't realise is that most of us weren't being such douches before you came and acted all elitist and unforgiving. Except for phil ofc. He seems to be out of hand.

Show me where I acted elitist, unforgiving (I think you'll find me and several people came to agreement in arguments). You stuck your whore in to a new member whilst largely ignoring the older members.

Really, the fact that you are apparently testing us made this post all the stupider. How did I try to come in with big I Ams to get Bizangs? I gave my opinion on you, your behaviour and I'll agree that I could

[RingMaster2001]

In response to CJ's post that he later deleted in wrestling discussion:

Other than to one person (which you'll find everyone has done more than once, I'll gladly find it, if you like) find where The Guest made an insulting and derogatory remark to other members.

The fact that I didn't agree with any of you caused you all to wail and sulk at the fact, and try to tell me that I'm being a "douche". An argument isn't a bad thing, it is a discussion, and they are only bad things when they descend into petty name calling, insults, and childishness, which most of you had done.

This thread needn't have descended into insults if several of you had refrained from thinking you were deities and the epitomes of decent members. Once again, douches don't want or need advice from dicks.

Plus, the argument between me and Salizzle (which it was, although it wasn't an insulting argument) was settled amicably. And also, the posts I made as the Guest were in no way more argumentative than what people like Sal and Chris (and me when I'm actually me) make everyday, but it's perfectly fine for them to do it as they are not new.

[RingMaster2001]

Sal made a good point last night on MSN which I liked.

Phil has become the latest victim of The Don Effect. Having become so comfortable in the role where everybody liked him when he first arrived, he has turned into a completel twat that nobody likes.

[Niles Jansen The Third]

yeah, deleted that cause I had sounded quite douchy myself in that one.

EDIT: Right, well I still disagree with you on the subject and I fully understand your thought process. You think that kids who are born now will not know Rock was a wrestler and about how arnold got his acting career from his success in the mr universe competition. I still say I don't see Rock being as successful as Arnie, so far that I think people won't even know who rock is.

I've read it all over, and can see why you're upset. But I did understand what you were saying; I just wasn't properly saying what I meant. So I apologize for that.

And that doesn't make me a waste of any sort. it only means you misinterpreted something I didn't apparently elaborate on enough.

My frustration came from thinking you were just trying to shove your opinion at me - not realizing I had not properly verbalized what it was I was originally saying. When I went through and saw I realized I looked retarded, and told you I was the one in the wrong.

[RingMaster2001]

Fair enough, I didn't see that post, and that is entirely accurate of what happened.

I apologise for calling you a waste of space, and your minus Bizangs are revoked. :)2

Edited April 12, 2009 by RingMaster2001

[Aero]

rather than revoke them... should they not just be passed to phil?

[RingMaster2001]

Agreed.