Watchmen Short Review

[phil]

You're still a moronic fuck, WrestlingFan24. If you simply used a better rewording of your first opinion (the one where you were agreeing with Aero about Hellboy II), I wouldn't have any qualms with you.

[CS]

Bit of advice, don't resort to homophobic insults right off the bat and if you really are that desperate I wouldn't recommend talking about maturity right after it. People tend to look at it as immature and hypocritical.

[Aero]

u like penis.... grow up

[CS]

Next time use a knock knock joke, then people will at least know your trying to be funny.

[Aero]

im lazy.

[wraslinfreak]

wow, that escaladed quickly, cant we all just get along and agree to disagree

[CS]

To get this back on topic the one problem I had with the movie was how Bubastis was just thrown in at the end with absolutely no introduction. How did they expect the general audience to instantly accept this obviously cgi'd horned lynx, she just stuck out like a sore thumb. Yes, it was nice to see Bubastis at the end but, if you don't even have five seconds to put in a line explaining what she is and why she's there, then she shouldn't even be in the film. She distracts rather than adds. It's particularly stupid because

the kitty gets a death scene, a scene no one cares about because they've never been introduced to her.

[jitz]

Fair point, it is pretty stupid. I assume that they acted to a CGI lynx in the final scene, but when it came time to edit the movie, Bubastis fell to the cutting room floor. So they were locked into putting it into the final scene. They had to include the death scene too, as the final fight would have looked silly with a horned lynx in the background doing nothing.

In all honesty, I had completely forgotten about the cat the moment it was dead...thanks for reminding me.

[Aero]

they did have to cut quite a bit out of the movie... mayb the dvd will explain

...they better not add MORE blue cock tho!

[phil]

If they let Bubastis in (if only for a rather pointless cameo), then taking away

the giant alien monster manufactured by Ozy

was very lame.

[Aero]

oh, also, why, oh why... did they have a camera shot, when dr. manhatten was meditating/hovering.... that CAME FROM HIS ASS.

that too was uncalled for, and you cant pass that 1 off with "creating space" etc.

[CS]

You can thank Snyder for that, Jitz can deny it all he wants but the fact is Snyder was trying to push a button and loves to shock people. He knew people would be drawn the the cock whenever it was on screen no matter what was going on otherwise. Another thing that had his fingerprints all over it was Rorschach's cleaver scene which wasn't in the gn.

they did have to cut quite a bit out of the movie... mayb the dvd will explain

...they better not add MORE blue cock tho!

Unfortunately for us all your wrong about the cock scenes, during an interview done with Snyder he said that they cut out some cock scenes that were a little much for the theatrical release(including a swing scene with the help of some stairs). Some much better news is that he also said there is over 45 minutes of additional footage being added to the directors cut.

Also Jitz I know your just waiting for this to come up so I'll just say it, Snyder changing the ending confused the shit out of me. Why stay so close to the gn for 2h 20min and then completely change the end, like WHERE THE FUCK DID THE GIANT MONSTER GO AND WHY THE FUCK DID YOU GET RID OF IT?!

[jitz]

Like I said very clearly, I haven't read the graphic novel, I don't know what the original ending is. I don't know what the giant monster is.

As for Snyder just wanting to shock people, I don't really understand where you're coming from with the statement. He puts a naked, glowing, blue man in one of his movies, and all of a sudden he's always been out to shock people? Dawn of the Dead, 300 and Watchmen. Those are his movies, where else is an example of Snyder going out of his way just to shock people?

Dawn of the Dead had a zombie baby, but it worked well within the plot. 300 had a lot of blood shed, limbs being sliced off, and decapitations...but that was the entire point of the graphic novel and the movie. Watchmen was a very subtle, even sedated, meandering movie that just happened to have a naked blue guy.

Not exactly "shocking', I know I've seen a cock before in my life, it's in my pants.

As for the meditating scene, I think that's one of the many scenes that use the graphic novel as a storyboard.

[Aero]

300 all the blacks where evil, AND he kicked 1 down a hole, shockingly racist! lol

and who gives a fuck if dr manhatten is meditating in a graphic novel, fair enough, show that, but thats not an excuse to bring the camera from the crack of his arse!

[jitz]

I'm sure you've played sport and have changed with other guys, that's far more gay then seeing a blue arse on a screen. What about when you're batting off to a porno, and they give you a rear shot of the guy fucking the chick? Do you stop batting off cause there's a guy's arse in your face? Nope...

You're making a big deal over nothing. A bit of male nudity, who gives a shit.

[Jonny]

Back to more important matters.

I watched Watchmen earlier today and I kind of felt let down. It seemed a bit slow paced, compared to the adverts for it.

Even at that, it was still a decent movie. The effects played in well and the cheese wasn't too OTT.

7/10

[Aero]

I'm sure you've played sport and have changed with other guys, that's far more gay then seeing a blue arse on a screen. What about when you're batting off to a porno, and they give you a rear shot of the guy fucking the chick? Do you stop batting off cause there's a guy's arse in your face? Nope...

You're making a big deal over nothing. A bit of male nudity, who gives a shit.

but, in said circumstances said male nudity is to be expected. a camera angle COMING from an ass crack in a movie is diffferent. also, im never that close to a naked guys ass in the changing rooms

[phil]

also, im never that close to a naked guys ass in the changing rooms

O RLY?

[Niles Jansen The Third]

I'm sure you've played sport and have changed with other guys, that's far more gay then seeing a blue arse on a screen. What about when you're batting off to a porno, and they give you a rear shot of the guy fucking the chick? Do you stop batting off cause there's a guy's arse in your face? Nope...

You're making a big deal over nothing. A bit of male nudity, who gives a shit.

but, in said circumstances said male nudity is to be expected. a camera angle COMING from an ass crack in a movie is diffferent. also, im never that close to a naked guys ass in the changing rooms

I thought the same thing when I saw it. The crack shot was humorous to me - I could swear they did it to try and be funny.

I think the movie was amazing. The people I went with hated it. I guess it all has to do with taste.

[LegendKiller74]

I loved the movie, had to convince a friend who didn't want to see it all to see it with me (nearest cinema is a half hour drive away and I dont have a car ) and he thought it was awesome as well. Didn't feel nearly as long as it actually is, and it's all the little nuances, cut-aways and flashbacks that really help develop the characters and make a completely unbelievable scenario almost seem real.

Going back to what someone said about Rorschach's mask (or "face" as he calls it), I thought the point of it moving was a reference to the ink blot tests in that everyone will see something completely different, and judge him differently when they look at him, just as one person could interpret an inkblot in a wholly different way from the next.

The chracters themselves are incredibly interesting and brilliantly developed - Rorschach's moral code, which we see the beginnings of in his flashbacks, and how rigidly he sticks to them commands a lot of respect. The Comedian manages to be a brilliant character due to the fact that he's a very flawed individual, and we see a little bit of ourselves in him albeit blown completely out of proportion with the incident with Silk Spectre and the girl in Vietnam. It's all very human stuff, just with the volume turned way up to emphasize the point.

Anyway I'll stop rambling otherwise I'll go on for ages. Awesome movie.

[Fozy]

where in scotland?

[LegendKiller74]

Kirriemuir, you've probably never heard of it, just a small town about 20 mins/half an hour from Dundee.

[Aero]

Going back to what someone said about Rorschach's mask (or "face" as he calls it), I thought the point of it moving was a reference to the ink blot tests in that everyone will see something completely different, and judge him differently when they look at him, just as one person could interpret an inkblot in a wholly different way from the next.

oh yeah, that did make sense to me too, i just wanted to know HOW the mask did this as they never said about it beibf special and again, how dr. manhatten was the only 1 who had proper super hero powers rather than just strength and speed.

[phil]

The mask's ink blots move around because they are two ink liquids that are suspended between two layers of a type of fabric.

[Jonny]

Going back to what someone said about Rorschach's mask (or "face" as he calls it), I thought the point of it moving was a reference to the ink blot tests in that everyone will see something completely different, and judge him differently when they look at him, just as one person could interpret an inkblot in a wholly different way from the next.

oh yeah, that did make sense to me too, i just wanted to know HOW the mask did this as they never said about it beibf special and again, how dr. manhatten was the only 1 who had proper super hero powers rather than just strength and speed.

Because the rest of them are just vigilantes. If they all had crazy super powers, it would undermine the power of Dr. Manhattan and make him seem not so super after all.