Fozy Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 sorry you don't have spiderman with his emo haircut. Quote
jitz Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 The entire point of unmasking him is to show that he's just an aging, unattractive, scarred man. He's so unhappy with his abuse riddled everday life, so he wears the mask, and after time came to resent himself without the mask. Which is why, when asking for his mask back, he actually asks for his "face". So when you're unimpressed with his physical appearance without the mask, you can actually sympathise with him because HE IS UNATTRACTIVE. Did you even watch the fucking movie!? EDIT - Oh and I don't see him being unmasked as a spoiler, it's like being shocked to find out Batman is Bruce Wayne, or Spiderman is Peter Parker. It's safe to assume that at some point during the movie you would find out who he is, as it's the only Watchmen story. Quote
ALL STAR Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 I loved the movie i know a little about the graphic novel 3rd of the way through. The movie was top notch though really like the Comedian he was played very well. It one of those films i enjoyed from start to finish nothing knocked the flow of the film. By far the best part of the film are the characters it shows the human side to heroes and just the emotion they bring on screen towards the end the moments that had Dr manhattan just talking about things were some of the best moments in the entire film. Quote
phil Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) Oh god yeah that was so bad I wanted to walk out of that one too . yeah it was Just shut the fuck up. I loved the movie i know a little about the graphic novel 3rd of the way through. The movie was top notch though really like the Comedian he was played very well. It one of those films i enjoyed from start to finish nothing knocked the flow of the film. By far the best part of the film are the characters it shows the human side to heroes and just the emotion they bring on screen towards the end the moments that had Dr manhattan just talking about things were some of the best moments in the entire film. Despite his savage tendencies, Rorschach, in my opinion, is a true hero in comparison to his fellow Watchmen because until at the very end, he wasn't willing to compromise his very way of life in favor of an extremely controversial and unethical method of saving people that relied on chance. Also, Doctor M is a nihilistic cunt who should be beaten with an oar for killing Rorschach. Edited March 10, 2009 by phil Quote
WrestlingFan24 Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Oh god yeah that was so bad I wanted to walk out of that one too . yeah it was Just shut the fuck up. No I'm not going to "shut the fuck up" everyone has their own opinion and just because you don't like it doesn't mean you should be a bitch, I don't think the movie was good...at all, if you don't agree that's your problem buddy :> Quote
jitz Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 Call me gay, but the glowing blue cock didn't bother me at all. Quote
Aero Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 it just seemed uneccessary for the plot developement... oh look, a blue cock! it was kinda obvious to me who rorschach was early on, i didnt have a problem with it being him and, ugly yes, but never the less pretty cool character mask or not. noob question tho - ok, so other than dr. manhatten, none of them really had proper powers, quick, intelligent and well... very strong... but, they were evidently natural abilities... i have no issues with this, but why did rorschach's mask have moving inky on it? did i miss that 1, is it in the novel or was it just there for shits and gigs? Quote
phil Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 His mask in the movie is like that in the comics, Aero. The reason for the ink blots shifting is beause the mask was (according to the comic) made from a special material with black and white liquids inside the cloth being able to shift around but never touch. The mask is also a reference to the Rorschach ink blot tests. Oh, and eat a dick WrestlingFan24. Quote
CS Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Phil don't even bother with him, like all other noobs he's just agreeing to look cool and really has no opinion on the matter. Quote
Nemo Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Call me gay, but the glowing blue cock didn't bother me at all. goatse doesnt bother me, but that doesnt mean it isnt fucking gross. also, gay. Quote
CS Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 I would say you're describing phil there. Phil's a cool guy, he doesn't need any help from me. Quote
jitz Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 it just seemed uneccessary for the plot developement... oh look, a blue cock! Dr Manahattan is an existential being, he is confused by humanity and the world they live in. He feels he no longer belongs in it; so why would he wear their clothes in private? He's attained godlike powers beyond anyone's imagination, he can now bend mattern to his will and see into his own future, he's become a god. His story has him taking this godlike status and examining the world for what it really is, without human emotion or compassion. He's above humans, the universe is now his oyster, why the fuck would you wear pants!? So yes, IT IS THERE FOR PLOT DEVELOPMENT. The only times he wears pants is for a TV interview, which would have been require by the television network, and when he fought in the war, he probably didn't want to cop a missle up the willy. This shit was all explained, you only need to use your brain a little to connect the dots. Rorshach moving ink blotches weren't explained in the movie, but while wearing the mask he took on a persona of mystery, and the mask was the essence of that. To explain why the ink blotches move would have taken away from it and de-powered him completely as a character. This choice is working because you are asking, how, if they had not actual super powers (except for Dr Manhattan), do the ink blotches move? Mystery. The comics may have explained it, but I'm with Zack Snyder in thinking, that's lame, it's better off not explained. Quote
Aero Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 ok... i did get that, but did it need to be shown as much? upper body shots etc, use the same logic as all those actresses who want to suggest they are naked, but never showing their tits etc, a bit or arse, a flash of cock gets that message across, constant cock was avoidable. i bet his cock wasnt as big when he was alive tho, egotistical fool! lmao Quote
phil Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 i bet his cock wasnt as big when he was alive tho, egotistical fool! lmao LOL. What I think is perhaps one of the best points of the comic and movie is that despite all of his might, power and glowing neon blue manhood, he loses his GF to that meek fatty Nite Owl. Quote
jitz Posted March 11, 2009 Author Posted March 11, 2009 They did do a lot of upperbody shots, but how do you propose they do group shots? When it was just one on one with say Silk Spectre, they did use a lot of upper body shots. When they had three people in the room all talking, and they had to create the space of the room and show the group existing in it, yeah they had to show cock, it's unavoidable. Most cock scenes were group scenes. There were a couple of times when they showed a full body shot of Doctor Manahttan by himself, after the conversation with Silk Spectre before the tv interview for example. It's a character moment where he's lost his connection to the world, losing his last thread of humanity. In those movies where the actress doesn't want to get her tits out, or show her vagina. Don't they always feel forced to you? Like they're lying in bed but she's holding the covers over her tits, who does that? The scenes lose a lot of emotion because the director can't show the drama taking place with body language, because he's restricted to showing essentially a head and neck. They're more preoccupied with covering up, then acting out the scene. The only way to show Dr Manhattan go from weakness to complete power is to show his entire body, and the body language he uses. Quote
WrestlingFan24 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 The entire point of unmasking him is to show that he's just an aging, unattractive, scarred man. He's so unhappy with his abuse riddled everday life, so he wears the mask, and after time came to resent himself without the mask. Which is why, when asking for his mask back, he actually asks for his "face". So when you're unimpressed with his physical appearance without the mask, you can actually sympathise with him because HE IS UNATTRACTIVE. Did you even watch the fucking movie!? EDIT - Oh and I don't see him being unmasked as a spoiler, it's like being shocked to find out Batman is Bruce Wayne, or Spiderman is Peter Parker. It's safe to assume that at some point during the movie you would find out who he is, as it's the only Watchmen story. I wasn't complaining that he was ugly I was complaining that his look isn't too impressive, he kinda reminded me of a demented Danny Bonaduce His mask in the movie is like that in the comics, Aero. The reason for the ink blots shifting is beause the mask was (according to the comic) made from a special material with black and white liquids inside the cloth being able to shift around but never touch. The mask is also a reference to the Rorschach ink blot tests. Oh, and eat a dick WrestlingFan24. Oh fuck off Phil you think you're cool cause you come into a forum and just agree with what everyone else is saying Phil don't even bother with him, like all other noobs he's just agreeing to look cool and really has no opinion on the matter. I gave my opinion dumbass just cause you don't like it or agree with it doesn't mean it's not an opinion I would say you're describing phil there. thank you Phil's a cool guy, he doesn't need any help from me. Why don't you kiss a little more Phil ass it's apparent you like the taste Quote
wraslinfreak Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Call me gay, but the glowing blue cock didn't bother me at all. yeah same here, it just caught me off guard cuz i wasnt expecting it, i have never read any of the comics, just heard of them from my comic reading buds, so it wouldnt have been as surprising if i had read the comics or they told me "oh by the way, be prepared for blue cock" Quote
phil Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Yeesh WrestlingFan24, no need to spaz out like that. And leave the quote whoring to Croft, you moronic fuck. Quote
WrestlingFan24 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 I'm sorry to the poster of this topic cause this is getting pretty off topic but I have to address Philly-boy here/ Oh shut up, I was responding to people that were addressing what I said. I mean really, you guys are being SO mature about someone that has a different opinion than you. Not everyone is going to fucking bow down and say that this movie was good. ( Because it seriously was NOT. ) Oh and not to make this completely off topic I still don't see the big appeal to all of you guys everything was good in the movie except the main plot line. I'm sorry but it's just fuckin' stupid strictly IMO. I know no one agrees with me. Eat a dick? Hmm, nahhh, I'll leave that to cs. Now since you obviously aren't mature enough to just let it go this will be the last reply I post in here. :> Quote
xIFearlessIxx Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Realey, there is nude "porn" in this XD. thats stupid, i dont think theres a mive porn free. Quote
Aero Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 In those movies where the actress doesn't want to get her tits out, or show her vagina. Don't they always feel forced to you? Like they're lying in bed but she's holding the covers over her tits, who does that? The scenes lose a lot of emotion because the director can't show the drama taking place with body language, because he's restricted to showing essentially a head and neck. They're more preoccupied with covering up, then acting out the scene. ok, i'll give you that, it is forced, and it fucks me off, when they fix that in movies, i'll accept seeing more cock too Quote
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