Aero Posted January 2, 2009 Posted January 2, 2009 yeah, so the new doc is to be announced 2mw... any1 any guesses "who" it is? rumours i've heard point to some black dude, david morrisey, david walliums or noel fielding :S Quote
Big Bizang Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 All of them would be atrocious apart from maybe David Morrissey but I dunno I didn't see the Christmas Special. Quote
Aero Posted January 3, 2009 Author Posted January 3, 2009 if you watched the xmas special, then you'd admit that he'd be decent, but due to the storyline, really couldnt be the next doc haha. its not a bad episode. Quote
eliteX Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Matt Smith! ...Who is he then? He doesn't look like a great choice, looks way too young. Quote
Fozy Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 saw doctor who confidential, oh man it looks an OKAY choice but fucking hell does it seem a big step down. Quote
Aero Posted January 3, 2009 Author Posted January 3, 2009 to be fair, other than his role in harry potter alot of ppl didnt really know David Tennent, similar sort of story for Christopher Eccleston. from his interview he seemed ok, just get the impression they are going for a carbon copy of the doctor's traits etc with him but time will tell i guess. Quote
Fozy Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 i hated christopher eccleston! and i only know david tennent from doctor who. lol Quote
Aero Posted January 3, 2009 Author Posted January 3, 2009 i liked eccleston UNTIL tennent took over, now his episodes are cock haha. but never the less, point in case, matt might do ok Quote
Smacktalks Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 i liked eccleston UNTIL tennent took over, now his episodes are cock haha. but never the less, point in case, matt might do ok Same. Tennant made the role his own. I didn't even know he was in Harry Potter when he got the job, i'd just seen him in the papers and the odd advert for Cassanova when the rumours started about who the next doctor would be. Quote
jitz Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 Christopher Eccleston short changes himself in the role, one series in the role doesn't allow you to bring character to the role, especially the serious angle to the character they were going for. The writers had envisioned him going further with the role and that was painfully clear, and then he dropped out. David Tennant was a great Doctor and hard to follow. Essentially this is Peter Davison following Tom Baker - you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. The main point isn't even the Doctor in all this, it's Russel T Davies hanging up the boots and Stephen Moffat taking over as head of writing and executive producer. Davies' stories have been shit for the last two seasons, he's clearly run out of ideas for the franchise he was the force behind reviving. While Moffat has been hitting absolute home runs. No matter who the Doctor is, you can expect better storylines that don't follow Davies' boring series layout that he copied for 4 fucking seasons. Quote
Aero Posted January 4, 2009 Author Posted January 4, 2009 thats very true, because as much as i prefered the latter series' with tennent, the story in general for new season 1 was the best, i thought the whole bad wolf thing etc was so well worked. perhaps it suited russel to right more for a straighter doctor perhaps? who knows, but moffat does seem to get the better episodes these days by a long shot so heres hoping the underlaying in story through out the series next year is better. on a side note, ppl i have been talking to didnt like the xmas special as much as any of the other 1s.... i loved it. mayb not the best episode, but to me it shat all over the voyage of the damned for example Quote
jitz Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 It was pretty good....except to the glaring plot hole where he doesn't recognise the Doctor, but he's had the entire Dalek's history of the Doctor imprinted into his brain (stolen by the Cybermen I think the story went). The run down of Doctors even included David Tennant, so why didn't he recognise him? Davies just decided to ignore this so he could write an opening 15 minutes where the Doctor actually mistakes him for himself but with memory loss at the hands of the Cybermen. It wasn't memory loss at all. It really made zero sense. Quote
Aero Posted January 4, 2009 Author Posted January 4, 2009 i disagree... tho it was covered quite poorly - The cyber men didnt recognise him either. why? because the ...erm.... info thingy... was faulty and before the cyberman viewed it had to repair it, this mixed with "the next doctor" bragging that he was the doctor seemed to be enough to convince that tennent wasnt the doctor was good enough. also, morresy did think he saw tennent before so there must still have been traces of him in there. additionally he knew all the terms like T.A.R.D.I.S (even if he did make up what it stood for) sonic screwdriver etc, he just didnt know what they were. small details like that. granted yes, they were poorly pieced together scraps, im not defending that he made it clear but i will say he TRIED to cover that plot hole... just badly. a fair point but still a fairly good episode Quote
jitz Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 You bring up some decent points. BUT The info stamps faultiness was attributed to it backfiring into his face, not forwards. Also when this happened it rewrote the info stamp with his identity as the Doctor, the Cybermen did recognise him as the Doctor and only him, they didn't recognise Tennant as the Doctor till he sonic screwdrivered it. Still though, when they show the flashback of the info stamp backfiring into the guys face, it clearly shows David Tennant being beemed directly into him. Infact that whole thing was so flimsily put together, the whole thing where the "Doctor" told the companion "the Doctor's companions always do what the Doctor tells them to" - as if taken from the point of view of the Daleks, that's a positive. The Daleks probably don't know what a TARDIS stands for, they've only ever heard the Doctor and his companions refer to it as a TARDIS. Hence why he probably knew the Doctor travelled in a TARDIS but wasn't exactly sure what it was. Two points that go towards Davies actually putting some thought into the plot - but it just makes the plot hole so much more glaring. He really just wanted everyone to believe this guy was the next Doctor for 15 minutes of the episode and throw in a bit of fan service with the cliched "I've seen your face before" moment. Hell, he even knew all about regeneration, I think he even said there for a second that the Cybermen forced him to regenerate? If he knew about regeneration, he knew about his past lives. I hate to be that nerd pointing out continuity errors and shit, because I hate it when people do that, this is just a glaring plot hole that involved the entire point of the episode and I picked up on it straight away. I'll have to watch it again and I'll watch the Confidential episode on it...maybe that will cover a bit of it. I Just think it was a bit of fan service gone wrong. Quote
Aero Posted January 5, 2009 Author Posted January 5, 2009 you FOOL jitz - It did show tennents face quite clearly, but he did think he recognised tennent (obviously to make it look like he was regenerating into morresy) so that WAS picked up on slightly hahaha. aside from that you are spot on. iain, quite! they should have made it a bit longer and used this time to help bridge the gaping hole tho. Quote
Fozy Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 quite what? no but really, it was written poorly and gave us nothing. it was shit. Quote
Big Bizang Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Didn't see the Christmas special but iplayer is a wonderful thing... Once again Jitz hits the nail on the head. Davies fucked up Doctor Who to oblivion with his constant welsh shit and pop culture references. Fuck off and don't come back. I loved Ecclestone as the Doctor. I liked the new angle. Tennant spoke through his teeth the whole time and had about three different facial expressions. He was brilliant Doctor but he's picked the right time to step down, he was getting old. Quote
Aero Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 37 lmao. to be fair to him, he's 1 of the longest serving doctors i belive, mccoy was longer due to the like 5 year gap they had back in his time... cheatin fuck lmao Quote
Fozy Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Tennent was 100x better than any doctor previous. Quote
jitz Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 You're over-rating David Tennant there Iain. He a great modern Doctor sure, but you can't discount the past Doctors simply because they didn't have the budget of the new Doctor Who or the one hour story format. Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, and Peter Davison were all great Doctors for their time, they all played the part brilliantly. William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton are great actors, but the character was still very much developing when they played the part, so the fun and overly quirky aspect was missing. Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy were shit, but by then the stories had turned to shit anyways. To say that David Tennant is 100 times better then them is simply unfair and untrue. Doctor Who has always been a show to keep with the times, the older Doctor's are just dated compared to this modern version, forgive them, it was thirty years ago. Oh and a side note - watched the confidential episode, I'm liking Matt Smith, this should be really good. Quote
Aero Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 i guessed that bizang.... you fool. was gonna say i think he has 1 more series in him, but he's got those 4 specials so thats kinda the same i guess Quote
Smacktalks Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 It'll be weird this year without a series, even Torchwood doesn't seem to have a proper season. Instead there doing 5 episodes over one week called The Children Of Time. Looks like Martha and Mikey will be part of it though going by the end of Doctor Who Season 4. Quote
RingMaster2001 Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 I'm sorry Aero, I can't let this slide. Tom Baker was the longest running doctor; for seven years, and seven successive series at that, making him the longest running doctor. And the best. Quote
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