Subrick Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Vick's career over? By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports August 20, 2007 While many people in and around the NFL are wondering if Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick ever will play in the league again, former Green Bay general manager Ron Wolf is wondering why not. "If he pays his debt to society, why shouldn't he get another chance?" asked Wolf, who was the engineer of Green Bay's Super Bowl championship team in the 1996 season. "Maybe I don't understand something in all of this, but you're supposed to get a second chance in this country." However, according to interviews with several NFL executives, Wolf is in the minority. Four other general managers and/or other personnel executives said they thought a return by Vick would be problematic. "Yeah, that's true, but it's a different time, a different place, a different set of circumstances," said a general manager who asked not to be identified. On Monday, Vick's attorney Billy Martin announced that the quarterback will plead guilty to federal dogfighting conspiracy charges. Conditions of the terms are unknown, but Vick faces up to five years in prison. The most damning evidence made public against Vick came Friday when co-defendants Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips also pleaded guilty. In their plea, Peace and Phillips admitted to killing eight dogs in April at Vick's property in Virginia and said that Vick participated in the death of the animals. The animals were destroyed because they failed to perform well enough in testing to see if they were "game" enough to be good fighters. "Every time you read about this story, it makes you want to take a shower," another unnamed general manager said. The Vick issue is layered with questions, such as how long he might serve in prison, how long the NFL will suspend him once he officially enters his plea Aug. 27 and whether the Falcons will go after approximately $28 million the team paid him in bonus money. Still, the bottom line comes down to whether he'll get another chance. Adding to the complexity of the situation, said one general manager, is that Vick plays quarterback. Will some NFL team ever want a convicted animal killer and liar to be the face of a franchise? "You're not talking about just anybody on your football team," the GM said. "You're talking about the leader of your team, the most recognizable player on your team, the guy who you normally market the team around and try to get the fans excited about. "Do you really think you're ever going to be able to get people to put their arms around that guy again? Maybe, but I don't think I'd be able to pull it off. We're not talking about just football here. We're talking about marketing, profile, what your sponsors think." At the same time, Wolf contended that crime is crime and that other players have been found guilty of activities seemingly just as serious. "We've had a lot of people in this league do a lot of bad things, and they still got a chance," Wolf said. "Leonard Little killed someone (while drunk driving). Jamal Lewis went to prison (in connection to) selling drugs. Are you telling me that killing eight dogs is worse than killing a human being? Quote
Heart Breaker Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 What Michael Vick did was wrong, and there's no going back from that. I can't see him ever playing in the league again. If he does, he'll be met with boos in stadiums around the world. He was an excellent player, with all the potential in the world. But he had to blow it all for animal cruelity. Good job, Vick. Quote
Subrick Posted August 21, 2007 Author Posted August 21, 2007 To me, dogfighting is worse than cockfighting. Quote
CS Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 I doubt he'l ever play in the NFL again, PETA would go crazy if a team signs him. Quote
DX Kidd Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 To me, dogfighting is worse than cockfighting. Thing is,..cockfighting is legal in some countries Quote
Subrick Posted September 4, 2007 Author Posted September 4, 2007 He's an asshole, fuck him. To quote a little bit from Team America: See, there's three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes, Chuck. And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything! So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, Chuck. And if they didn't fuck the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit! Quote
CS Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 Your fucking hilarious, quoting team america and all. Quote
Legendeath Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 He's an asshole, fuck him. To quote a little bit from Team America: See, there's three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes, Chuck. And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything! So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, Chuck. And if they didn't fuck the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit! Ok Subrick I've had enough. It seems like more than half your fucking posts are spam and they also take the discussion off topic or don't even have a point. You fail to understand that spam posts are hated and you seem to believe that your post count is more valuable than your post quality. Therefore unless you want to be hated more than you already are I suggest your shut the fuck up and start contributing something worthwhile. Quote
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