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[Strum la Frantique]

Finally some noteworthy news, and it's negative in a kind of way. So apparently the only other game banned by the British ratings board was Carmageddon, but that was later overturned. So this will officially (if the judgement stands) be the first game banned in the UK.

The first Manhunt was released in Australia, but later banned in an appeal from complaints from...who knows who, obviously people with nothing better to do. It was due to Australia not have an R rating (18+) for videogames, although it is constantly talked about in parliament with a lot of people behind the movement. So Manhunt 2 is also a given to be banned here

As gaming consoles become capable of delivering increasingly realistic concepts and graphics, and Rockstar continues to loose all creativity, the banned list will undoubtedly grow.

So basically it poses the question: When does a game take it too far? Limits are put on the movie industry, although it seems to a lesser extent (the recent Hostels movie are an example). Obviously people choose what to play at the end of the day and it's entirely possible to play video games your entire life without playing one with a drop of blood in it, but it's the real world and that means jack shit.

Discuss your views on censorship, and violence in videogames. There has to be a line drawn somewhere, where should the line be?

[Chillalex]

CUNT!!!!!!!

That was like, one of the wii games i was really looking forward to!

Fuck it. Looks like Ill have to import it and somehow make my wii play imports.

[Aero]

do a search for freeloader from datel, there is a wii version floating around now i think, no modding required.

[scoot]

looks like thats going to be one for the torrents

[Salazzle]

the only reason im not for censorship is because censorship isnt a one time thing. if you allow people to get rid of something they dont like, it gives them the ok to crusade against other shit that offends them. censorship just plain doesnt work.

people need to educate their kids. if kids can grow up knowing that (most) tv violence doesnt fly in the real world and there are real consequences like life in prison or even death - kids will think twice about going on a murder rampage. also, we have to consider the fact that some people are just violent by nature. its not like there werent murderers before movies and video games came out.

so yeah, banning video games is bullshit.

[Aero]

proof of towelie's theory can be found in the 2 part episode of south park entitled cartoon wars from series 10 (i think)

[Subrick]

At least games never get banned in America. I've heard of only on game that was banned in America, The Guy Game. But that was overturned, so pretty much a game never has been banned in the United States.

[Strum la Frantique]

Americans always have to turn a conversation into something about America. The topic isn't about how games aren't banned in America.

It's been announced though that it's received an AO rating in America, essentially banning it from a lot of major retailers. Rockstar are upset, saying it's inline with an M rating. Rockstar is currently considering their options on either appealing the ratings decisions, or altering the game content.

Clearly the game crosses some lines, more than Manhunt 1. It'll be interesting to see what the ratings boards are picking out as unacceptable for an M rating.

[The Don]

I herd that every time you look a computer screen in the game, there is a picutre of one of the developer's ass.

[Chillalex]

i heard that if you play it and say bloody mary three times, it comes and kills you!

But really, im annoyed its banned here, but part of me thinks thats justified. It looks like being one of the nastiest games ever; the fact that on the wii, you actually carry out these murders yourself, makes it a murder sim really and well, as fun as it might be, its not to be glorified.

Im annoyed but also slightly thankful.

[Subrick]

At least the USA won't ban it. So you think about that, Europeans. Think of how such stupid video game censorship you have while me, Don, and whoever else is American here get to play an ultraviolent game. Yeah, bitches!

[Aero]

worst thing is, its usually americans who kill ppl then blame games, so its YOUR fault we don't get the games, stupid fuckin EU ruling. i'll probably just get that freloader anyways, then kil someone, blame the game, and sue datel for making a loophole for me.

[Strum la Frantique]

Subrick, I assume that's in direct response to this

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Americans always have to turn a conversation into something about America. The topic isn't about how games aren't banned in America.

Aero, there isn't a Freeloader for Wii yet. Don't confuse the GameCube Freeloader that has the "Works with Wii" sticker on the front.

[Strum la Frantique]

Screw editing.

Plot thickens more so with Nintendo coming out and saying that it clearly states on Nintendo.com that Nintendo doesn't allow AO rated content on any of it's systems.

So the Wii version of Manhunt 2 in it's current state cannot be released in America. So Nintendo of America bans it, so much for America not banning anything.

Look for Rockstar to change the game.

[salizzle]

Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft have said they don't allow AO games on their consoles. Thus completely banning Manhunt 2 around the world.

Pretty annoying.

[Subrick]

You forgot the PS2 edition.

[Aero]

Strum la Frantique, on Jun 21 2007, 07:44 AM, said:

Subrick, I assume that's in direct response to this

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Americans always have to turn a conversation into something about America. The topic isn't about how games aren't banned in America.

Aero, there isn't a Freeloader for Wii yet. Don't confuse the GameCube Freeloader that has the "Works with Wii" sticker on the front.

i know its not out, yet, but its on its way, looks more likely tho that they will just have to edit the game to pass censorship so it will most likely end up comming out in the uk anyways

[Chillalex]

yeah, reckon its most likely theyre gonna change the game. Having 3/4 of potential revenue stopped, is not good for profits. The gimmick of manhunt 2 WAS the wiimote controls imo, so thats what they really want to get released.

Im feeling a little more optimistic about it, after I read the AO version thing.

I just cannot see the logic in them just releasing an USA PS2 version, missing out on UK Wii/PS2 AND American Wii.

[Salazzle]

there isnt gonna be a ps2 version if the game gets an AO rating.

[salizzle]

Iain, on Jun 21 2007, 03:11 PM, said:

Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft have said they don't allow AO games on their consoles. Thus completely banning Manhunt 2 around the world.

Pretty annoying.

Subrick, on Jun 21 2007, 04:39 PM, said:

You forgot the PS2 edition.

Care to read again?